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Post by hchoops on Dec 20, 2022 10:11:51 GMT -5
I like that Gates was fed down low a lot in the 2nd half. Its our only recourse to try and stay competitive with any Division I team. You can see how badly we're hurting when he's on bench with foul trouble. Opposing strategy for just about anyone should be to attack Gates early and force him to sit at least 8-10 min in the first half. Nelson did not have to keep Gates on the bench the last 14 minutes if the first half with 2 fouls. Especially with a consistent10-15 point deficit he could have spotted him in and out as many coaches do when faced with a similar situatupiin. Many games are decided in the first half, as was last night’s. Might as well lose with your best(only) player on the floor. Gates has shown the ability to avoid fouls when necessary. He played 19 minutes in the second half and wound up with 4.
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Post by lou on Dec 20, 2022 10:20:47 GMT -5
I kind of liked the enthusiasm of the announcers, but saying we had a good chance if we got it to down 10 at half was a bit of a stretch
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Post by Tom on Dec 20, 2022 10:29:55 GMT -5
I truly feel sorry for everyone. I feel sorry for the players - having to put in all the time they do, knowing they really don't have a good shot of winning every time they step on the floor....must be horrible. Yes, I feel a bit sorry for the coaches, too. They realize their livelihoods are on the line; the losing stinks for them too. And of course, for us, the small band of fans that still are here.....I think we've paid our dues at this point, haven't we? . I feel sorry for the poor guy who has to come up with an up beat Christmas poem
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Dec 20, 2022 10:51:37 GMT -5
Post by Sons of Vaval on Dec 20, 2022 10:51:37 GMT -5
Its our only recourse to try and stay competitive with any Division I team. You can see how badly we're hurting when he's on bench with foul trouble. Opposing strategy for just about anyone should be to attack Gates early and force him to sit at least 8-10 min in the first half. Nelson did not have to keep Gates on the bench the last 14 minutes if the first half with 2 fouls. Especially with a consistent10-15 point deficit he could have spotted him in and out as many coaches do when faced with a similar situatupiin. Many games are decided in the first half, as was last night’s. Might as well lose with your best(only) player on the floor. Gates has shown the ability to avoid fouls when necessary. He played 19 minutes in the second half and wound up with 4. Given our lack of depth and talent, Nelson should want his best player on the floor for as many minutes as possible. If it results in a foul out, so be it (Gates finished with four fouls, by the way). But maximizing minutes is key. Our best and most reliable player played 25 minutes. We wouldn't have won if he played 30+, but automatically yanking him for the remainder of the first half after he picked up his second foul was foolish.
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Dec 20, 2022 11:00:45 GMT -5
Post by Tom on Dec 20, 2022 11:00:45 GMT -5
Nelson did not have to keep Gates on the bench the last 14 minutes if the first half with 2 fouls. Especially with a consistent10-15 point deficit he could have spotted him in and out as many coaches do when faced with a similar situatupiin. Many games are decided in the first half, as was last night’s. Might as well lose with your best(only) player on the floor. Gates has shown the ability to avoid fouls when necessary. He played 19 minutes in the second half and wound up with 4. Given our lack of depth and talent, Nelson should want his best player on the floor for as many minutes as possible. If it results in a foul out, so be it (Gates finished with four fouls, by the way). But maximizing minutes is key. Our best and most reliable player played 25 minutes. We wouldn't have won if he played 30+, but automatically yanking him for the remainder of the first half after he picked up his second foul was foolish. Kind of uncharacteristic. Other guys have played gotten first half minutes with two fouls
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Dec 20, 2022 12:52:51 GMT -5
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 20, 2022 12:52:51 GMT -5
We don't have the players. We play at least 3 guys who in baseball terms would be considered replacement level players in the Patriot League (that is, substandard compared to the average PL player). The 6 I'd consider average or better than average PL guys do not contain an experienced point guard or a decent large person. Therefore, you are correct. I don’t think we have 6 players who are average or better than average versus PL competitors
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Dec 20, 2022 13:18:44 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 20, 2022 13:18:44 GMT -5
We play at least 3 guys who in baseball terms would be considered replacement level players in the Patriot League (that is, substandard compared to the average PL player). The 6 I'd consider average or better than average PL guys do not contain an experienced point guard or a decent large person. Therefore, you are correct. I don’t think we have 6 players who are average or better than average versus PL competitors We have GG and Bo.
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Dec 20, 2022 14:34:31 GMT -5
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 20, 2022 14:34:31 GMT -5
Dorsey?
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Dec 20, 2022 14:53:44 GMT -5
I truly feel sorry for everyone. I feel sorry for the players - having to put in all the time they do, knowing they really don't have a good shot of winning every time they step on the floor....must be horrible. Yes, I feel a bit sorry for the coaches, too. They realize their livelihoods are on the line; the losing stinks for them too. And of course, for us, the small band of fans that still are here.....I think we've paid our dues at this point, haven't we? With the news that we officially won't have Louth and Rabs back, we're down to 10 scholarship players. Just one gets hurt and they can't even have a decent practice. I just think it's going to be hard to win a single game going forward. It would be one thing if it looked like a couple of guys appeared to be ramping up their level of play, but I'm really not seeing it. My gosh, not sure I have the juice here to even click Post Quick Reply, it's so depressing. Dave, does this mean we won't be getting a "Twas the night before Christmas" this year? Funny you ask SoV.
With each year, I seem to stress more and more with trying to come up with something original. The losing has made it even more difficult, especially since I don't want to disparage any player (or coach, for that matter).
Right now I am having anxiety attacks, as I am staring at an empty canvas of sorts. But - something just popped in my head that I am going to try to work with. We'll see what happens. As usual, an open mind free of reality based thinking will be needed.
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Dec 20, 2022 14:59:13 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on Dec 20, 2022 14:59:13 GMT -5
HOORAY !! Suspending reality in the essence of Christmas, Dave
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Dec 20, 2022 16:16:54 GMT -5
Post by hchoops on Dec 20, 2022 16:16:54 GMT -5
Another strange decision was the higher than usual minutes that Tse played while Will sat in the second half, with no foul issues.
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Dec 20, 2022 16:22:54 GMT -5
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 20, 2022 16:22:54 GMT -5
Another strange decision was the higher than usual minutes that Tse played while Will sat in the second half, with no foul issues. I don’t have the expertise to make a judgment on Tse’s defensive contributions, but his numbers on offense are woeful this year and in his first two years that Coach Nelson no doubt reviewed before offering him a scholarship. Really, really woeful.
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Dec 20, 2022 16:25:34 GMT -5
Post by sader81 on Dec 20, 2022 16:25:34 GMT -5
It is hard to believe that six years have gone by since you penned your Christmas greeting in honor of Father K. Where did the time go? Dave, does this mean we won't be getting a "Twas the night before Christmas" this year? Funny you ask SoV.
With each year, I seem to stress more and more with trying to come up with something original. The losing has made it even more difficult, especially since I don't want to disparage any player (or coach, for that matter).
Right now I am having anxiety attacks, as I am staring at an empty canvas of sorts. But - something just popped in my head that I am going to try to work with. We'll see what happens. As usual, an open mind free of reality based thinking will be needed.
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Dec 20, 2022 21:25:08 GMT -5
Post by Crucis#1 on Dec 20, 2022 21:25:08 GMT -5
How about a football poem. Lots of material for the Crossports Poet Laureate.
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 20, 2022 21:27:35 GMT -5
It is hard to dictate (or suggest) to a true artist. NAD will come through...as he always has.
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Dec 20, 2022 21:52:28 GMT -5
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 20, 2022 21:52:28 GMT -5
No good rhymes for “Nelson” but many for “whacked”—should make the job easier
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Dec 21, 2022 9:42:21 GMT -5
Post by Tom on Dec 21, 2022 9:42:21 GMT -5
It is hard to dictate (or suggest) to a true artist. NAD will come through...as he always has. No pressure Dave
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Dec 21, 2022 10:02:38 GMT -5
Post by Tom on Dec 21, 2022 10:02:38 GMT -5
Another strange decision was the higher than usual minutes that Tse played while Will sat in the second half, with no foul issues. I was surprised at that as well. Will has played more than 30 pretty much every game that he didn't break his nose. Time will tell if this was a unique circumstance (like maybe Will had a cold) or if Tse will be seeing greater minutes going forward
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Post by bikeman on Dec 21, 2022 12:46:26 GMT -5
Twas the night before Christmas when I heard someone shout, “I heard thru the grapevine that Nelson is out.” No one is happy. Everyone’s sad but there’s no way on earth we should be THIS bad.
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Dec 21, 2022 14:32:55 GMT -5
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 21, 2022 14:32:55 GMT -5
Maybe Will was uncomfortable?
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Dec 21, 2022 20:43:05 GMT -5
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Dec 21, 2022 20:43:05 GMT -5
Brown 67 - UNH 43, late in the second half.
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Dec 21, 2022 20:48:21 GMT -5
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Post by efg72 on Dec 21, 2022 20:48:21 GMT -5
The only thing predictable about low D1 hoops is the outcome of a game is unpredictable
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Post by trimster on Dec 22, 2022 7:15:00 GMT -5
Brown 67 - UNH 43, late in the second half. Good thing we don’t play Brown.
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Dec 22, 2022 8:13:36 GMT -5
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Dec 22, 2022 8:13:36 GMT -5
UNH must have had a letdown coming off their marquee win Monday night.
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Dec 22, 2022 9:15:53 GMT -5
Post by timholycross on Dec 22, 2022 9:15:53 GMT -5
Brown 67 - UNH 43, late in the second half. Good thing we don’t play Brown. Not that HC has anything more to offer Mike Martin than he's getting at Brown (other than a better gym and maybe more money, maybe not); but Martin's a pretty good coach it would seem.
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