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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jan 7, 2023 17:16:11 GMT -5
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Post by HC92 on Jan 7, 2023 18:04:36 GMT -5
Shows you how much better we are than Yale. We give our backup QBs (Helms) to Clemson while Yale takes Clemson’s backups.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Jan 7, 2023 20:06:55 GMT -5
The Yale QB we played in 2001 was a transfer from Wisconsin. Peter Lee if I remember. We also played against a couple good transfers at Harvard. RB Clifton Dawson in 03-04’ was a P5 transfer (Northwestern?). WR Corey Mazza either transferred from Stanford or de-commited from them and signed with Harvard. BTW Dequece Carter committed to Indiana today.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jan 8, 2023 10:03:35 GMT -5
Wonder if any Fordham fans were hearing these Steely Dan lyrics when they got the news: "they call Alabama the Crimson Tide......call me Deacon Blues".
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 8, 2023 10:05:55 GMT -5
I'm betting the next Ram QB will be the kid that took St. Anthony's to the New York State championship game (unless they are biased against Franciscans ) State champs! St. Anthony's rallies in CHSFL AAA final for LI's first state football crown
By Gregg Sarra gregg.sarra@newsday.comGregg_Sarra Updated November 30, 2022 HAMBURG, N.Y. -- This was a comeback win for the ages. A never-quit scenario played out perfectly by the St. Anthony’s football team. The Friars trailed by three touchdowns at the half and could not find any rhythm in an offense that averaged 44 points per game. And the defensive unit was manhandled by a massive St. Francis of Buffalo O-line. It would have been too easy to quit and get back on the buses for the seven-hour ride home. “We regrouped at halftime and made some necessary adjustments,” said St. Anthony’s defensive back Jaeden Jenkins. “We warmed up a bit, not much it was freezing, and challenged each other to be the best version of ourselves.” Boy, did they ever. St. Anthony’s scored 27 unanswered second-half points in the final 13minutes to come back and stun host St. Francis of Buffalo to capture the CHSFL AAA championship, with a 27-20 win on a frigid Wednesday night on the shores of Lake Erie in the northwestern part of the state. A crowd of more than 1,000 braved snow squalls and 52 mile per hour winds that sent the real feel into the teens. St. Anthony’s (11-1), which has a CHSFL record 15 titles, made its first appearance in the state championship game. It was a memorable one. With 4:01 left in the game, the Friars had a fourth down and goal from the Red Raiders 2. QB Dante Torres went keeper left and followed Frank Ruta into the end zone to tie it at 20. Griffin Goldstein drilled the extra-point kick into a 35-40 mph wind for the 21-20 lead. “[Ruta] set the edge, what a great block,” said Torres, who completed 12 of 20 passes for 123 yards. He was 5-for-5 for 54 yards in the second half.
The game’s final play was St. Francis QB Steve Otremba stepping up into the pocket from the Friars’ 24-yard line and zeroing in on his receiver in the end zone. As Otremba set to throw, Thomas Mackell stripped the ball from his grip and the final seconds ticked off the clock. Bedlam ensued as St. Anthony’s players charged onto the field to celebrate Long Island’s first state high school football championship. “I got up field and he stepped up to throw and I smacked the ball out of his hands,” Mackell said. “Greatest feeling ever. I knew it was over.” St. Anthony’s coach Joe Minucci said the halftime adjustments keyed the win. “We weren’t ready, and we were getting smacked around in the first half,” Minucci said. “They went big on us on the lines, and we had to adjust. The weather was definitely a factor, but we got it cleaned up. It was a fantastic end, just fantastic.” Gregg Sarra
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Post by purplehaze on Jan 13, 2023 21:30:03 GMT -5
Fordham recvd a commitment this week from CJ Montes, 3 star recruit from Pasadena Ca - vis transfer portal and U of New Mexico - 3 yrs eligibility remaining
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Post by hcpride on Jan 14, 2023 7:13:20 GMT -5
Fordham recvd a commitment this week from CJ Montes, 3 star recruit from Pasadena Ca - vis transfer portal and U of New Mexico - 3 yrs eligibility remaining Looks like they’ve got the frosh hotshot QB + transfer portal QB combo incoming at that position. Credit them for really trying to close the gap with us (but I think it’s widening given our returnees and recruits).
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Post by hcpride on May 3, 2023 10:14:23 GMT -5
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Post by mm67 on May 3, 2023 11:09:35 GMT -5
Fordham's loss is the PL's loss. We would all be better off if the PL attracted top quality talent. Would prefer balanced competitive high quality PL football even if that meant HC not going undefeated. Competitive, close nail biting games with schools knocking each other off is a lot more exciting & fun to watch.
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Post by rgs318 on May 3, 2023 11:14:11 GMT -5
I agree. Tp be able to drop one PL game and still be able to take the championship (as it was at times in the old days) can certainly be more exciting.
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Post by DFW HOYA on May 3, 2023 11:29:11 GMT -5
Fordham's loss is the PL's loss. We would all be better off if the PL attracted top quality talent. Would prefer balanced competitive high quality PL football even if that meant HC not going undefeated. Competitive, close nail biting games with schools knocking each other off is a lot more exciting & fun to watch. Outside of Holy Cross, the PL is headed further downhill and no one seems to want to do much about it. Lehigh and Lafayette are at generational lows, and Bucknell is headed in reverse. Georgetown could be considerably worse than last year and that's saying something,
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Post by hcpride on May 3, 2023 11:50:57 GMT -5
Fordham's loss is the PL's loss. We would all be better off if the PL attracted top quality talent. Would prefer balanced competitive high quality PL football even if that meant HC not going undefeated. Competitive, close nail biting games with schools knocking each other off is a lot more exciting & fun to watch. Outside of Holy Cross, the PL is headed further downhill and no one seems to want to do much about it. Lehigh and Lafayette are at generational lows, and Bucknell is headed in reverse. Georgetown could be considerably worse than last year and that's saying something, If we have 4 or 5 non-competitive PL games (and that is quite possible) we might see 4 or 5 lopsided scores (if Chesney needs to show the committee we are deserving of a top seed notwithstanding a weak FCS schedule). And that’ll tick some folks off.
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Post by football44 on May 3, 2023 12:01:40 GMT -5
Outside of Holy Cross, the PL is headed further downhill and no one seems to want to do much about it. Lehigh and Lafayette are at generational lows, and Bucknell is headed in reverse. Georgetown could be considerably worse than last year and that's saying something, If we have 4 or 5 non-competitive PL games (and that is quite possible) we might see 4 or 5 lopsided scores (if Chesney needs to show the committee we are deserving of a top seed notwithstanding a weak FCS schedule). And that’ll tick some folks off. hcpride sorry about ticking folks off, but they need to raise their games. This machine is rolling and their mission is a national championship. The #4 ranked team in the country (pre-season FCS) has a huge target on its back and they know it so all opponents need to get ready for a battle.
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Post by hchoops on May 3, 2023 12:33:23 GMT -5
More than rolling up scores on weak opponents, we need to beat BC or Army, or both.
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Post by midwestsader05 on May 3, 2023 12:55:59 GMT -5
I’ve been expecting we will see Montes. Kid has 2 full years of college reps and saw action at New Mexico. Typically don’t see a freshman QB unless they have unmatched athleticism (Sluka) but Montes also can hurt you with his feet. Fordham will have enough firepower to score with most anyone again. Louthbridge at RB, Wright and Felton at WR plus several OL back.
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Post by football44 on May 3, 2023 13:35:52 GMT -5
More than rolling up scores on weak opponents, we need to beat BC or Army, or both. Amen Hoops!!!
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Post by sader1970 on May 3, 2023 13:43:22 GMT -5
No, "or both." BOTH!
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Post by longsuffering on May 3, 2023 15:25:57 GMT -5
Maybe he was wait listed by Harvard?
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Post by hcpride on May 3, 2023 15:29:16 GMT -5
I’ve been expecting we will see Montes. Kid has 2 full years of college reps and saw action at New Mexico. Typically don’t see a freshman QB unless they have unmatched athleticism (Sluka) but Montes also can hurt you with his feet. Fordham will have enough firepower to score with most anyone again. Louthbridge at RB, Wright and Felton at WR plus several OL back. I'd expect Montes to start too. Very thin FU QB room. Montes was not close to FU's first choice when they eyeballed and offered QBs on the portal and I've gotta say he was very unimpressive at one of the absolute worst FCS teams in the country. New Mexico. Looks like that was his only FBS offer (Dartmouth offered him) coming out of high school. (I was on NM's website and they cleaned house - including at the QB position - and have brought in 26 transfers.) While it is true we don't see too many PL frosh QB's (though Peter Pujols, Sluka and Tim DeMorat come immediately to mind when thinking of recent HC and FU frosh QBs) it certainly is a big blow when your star QB and his backup both depart AND you subsequently lose your only incoming frosh QB (after he signs a letter of intent).
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Post by sader1970 on May 3, 2023 15:40:11 GMT -5
Am I missing something here? If the St. Anthony's QB is not going to go to Fordham but going to go to Harvard instead, we'll still be playing against him, just that he'll be in a different uniform. Of course, as good as he might be, not likely Harvard will start a freshman in Polar Park.
From memory (always suspect), he's the kid that led the comeback in the NYS championship game against Chris Smith's father's St. Francis team where Chris and Eric Schon both graduated from and played for Chris' father.
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Post by hcpride on May 3, 2023 15:43:28 GMT -5
Maybe he was wait listed by Harvard? I guess Harvard considers it fair game as they and their Ivy brethren are on a different recruiting/admission timeline. I'd like to think we wouldn't do that sort of thing to Fordham.
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Post by longsuffering on May 3, 2023 15:45:44 GMT -5
Fordham's loss is the PL's loss. We would all be better off if the PL attracted top quality talent. Would prefer balanced competitive high quality PL football even if that meant HC not going undefeated. Competitive, close nail biting games with schools knocking each other off is a lot more exciting & fun to watch. Outside of Holy Cross, the PL is headed further downhill and no one seems to want to do much about it. Lehigh and Lafayette are at generational lows, and Bucknell is headed in reverse. Georgetown could be considerably worse than last year and that's saying something, Observing from afar, can you detect any noticeable or measurable benefits to Holy Cross the whole institution and community because of the current HC Football program that would inspire other league members to step up to try to duplicate the benefits for themselves? You'd think that sixty full schollies and twenty salaries dedicated to the program would be a bucket of cash demanding a strong fiduciary oversight by the PL administrations. They wouldn't let a $6 million Dorm get termites without addressing it would they? GU FB fans have less hope for an administrative sense of urgency unfortunately because there isn't as much money at stake.
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Post by Chu Chu on May 6, 2023 12:45:01 GMT -5
I think that we need to take the long view here.
If Holy Cross continues to dominate and set the pace in the Patriot League over the next several seasons (not a given), while scheduling attractive out of conference opponents, the other league members will be under tremendous pressure to improve. Schools like Colgate, Lafayette and Lehigh all have a tremendous football legacy, and I doubt that their fans and alumni will tolerate mediocrity. I think that we would likely see a scenario similar to what has happened in the West Coast Conference in basketball, where Gonzaga has been so dominant. In recent years, the other teams have massively improved their competitiveness and the entire league is the better for it, and is no longer considered a "single bid" conference in the post season. I like where we are now.
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Post by longsuffering on May 6, 2023 14:24:59 GMT -5
I think that we need to take the long view here.
If Holy Cross continues to dominate and set the pace in the Patriot League over the next several seasons (not a given), while scheduling attractive out of conference opponents, the other league members will be under tremendous pressure to improve. Schools like Colgate, Lafayette and Lehigh all have a tremendous football legacy, and I doubt that their fans and alumni will tolerate mediocrity. I think that we would likely see a scenario similar to what has happened in the West Coast Conference in basketball, where Gonzaga has been so dominant. In recent years, the other teams have massively improved their competitiveness and the entire league is the better for it, and is no longer considered a "single bid" conference in the post season. I like where we are now. Good analogy. FCS FB puts the resources necessary to compete within reach of a committed PL School, and NIL should be less of an obstacle in FCS than butting heads with the big boys in D-1 BB. .
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 8, 2023 17:22:42 GMT -5
I'm hoping we'll end up with a scenario in the PL where Holy Cross, Fordham, Colgate and Lehigh are all at minimum Top 40 FCS programs year in and year out. That should be the "core four". Lafayette has an extremely loyal fan base and the facilities and location to be competitive as well, if they want to be. The pressure to compete with rival Lehigh helps.
Bucknell and Georgetown-- fughettabowwwdddiitt.
Need non-medical redshirts now!!
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