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Post by hchoops on Mar 6, 2017 10:48:53 GMT -5
Will Dan Hurley leave URI ?
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Mar 6, 2017 11:22:32 GMT -5
Will Dan Hurley leave URI ? For where?
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Post by rf1 on Mar 6, 2017 11:41:38 GMT -5
Will Dan Hurley leave URI ? For where? Precisely. Where? Dan Hurley has to get URI to the NCAA for there to be any interest in him. The odds are probably slightly against him this year with URI (21-9) squarely on the bubble (Lunardi has them as the first team left out as of today). In my opinion URI should not be in this position with the talent on the squad. Hurley has underachieved and doubts about him have risen. He is a very intense and emotional coach. Many see this as be part of his problem. His teams usually play hard but they have a knack of wilting under pressure. Some say it is because the coach and players are too tight. Furthermore, Hurley has a difficult time moving on from adversity and putting it in the past. It took him a long time to get over the EC Matthews injury last year as it lingered over the programs for many games. URI had two inexplicable home losses this season vs LaSalle and Fordham where the team was very flat and played with little energy. Both these losses came after very tough and emotional last second defeats to Dayton (URI at home actually led by four with 24 seconds but missed a ft and gave up two wide open threes to lose to the Flyers). Many think Hurley and his team were still not over the previous game emotional losses to Dayton and that carried over to the LaSalle and Fordham games. I think many higher profile schools will give pause when evaluating Dan Hurley for a position. This will be especially true should he not make the tournament when it was expected. Hurley is no longer the hot young up and coming coach with a short resume being judged on potential. He now has a full seven years of experience as a college head coach. High profile schools usually want a coach with proven results. Hurley has to get to the tournament and possibly win a game for better opportunities.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 7, 2017 11:19:29 GMT -5
Tom Moore out at Quinnipiac.
Quinnipiac using a search firm to hire their next head coach because, apparently, Greg Amodio isn't capable of doing his job.
Quick side note: I am happy with Bill Carmody as HC's coach, but was pretty disappointed that Nate Pine used DHR International as the search firm to "find" Carmody. This was, of course, the same search firm used to hire Pine as HC's AD. Hmmmmmm.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 7, 2017 11:21:38 GMT -5
Tom Moore out at Quinnipiac. Quinnipiac using a search firm to hire their next head coach because, apparently, Greg Amodio isn't capable of doing his job. Looks as if some former HC assistants, Doherty, Eaton, Newsom, are out of jobs also. unfortunate, but the story of the game
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Post by WorcesterGray on Mar 7, 2017 12:24:29 GMT -5
Some discussion a couple years back about assistants who hung around in the same program too long without moving up - Doherty and Eaton are the poster guys for that career choice.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 7, 2017 12:30:13 GMT -5
Some discussion a couple years back about assistants who hung around in the same program too long without moving up - Doherty and Eaton are the poster guys for that career choice. A couple recent examples within HC basketball, too. Unsure if they had an opportunity to move up, though.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 7, 2017 12:37:11 GMT -5
Tom Moore out at Quinnipiac. Quinnipiac using a search firm to hire their next head coach because, apparently, Greg Amodio isn't capable of doing his job. Quick side note: I am happy with Bill Carmody as HC's coach, but was pretty disappointed that Nate Pine used DHR International as the search firm to "find" Carmody. This was, of course, the same search firm used to hire Pine as HC's AD. Hmmmmmm. Sure enough, Amodio hired DHR to conduct the search for QU's next coach. DHR was the search firm who hired Amodio as QU AD. Surprise, surprise!
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Post by hchoops on Mar 7, 2017 12:47:40 GMT -5
Tom Moore out at Quinnipiac. Quinnipiac using a search firm to hire their next head coach because, apparently, Greg Amodio isn't capable of doing his job. Quick side note: I am happy with Bill Carmody as HC's coach, but was pretty disappointed that Nate Pine used DHR International as the search firm to "find" Carmody. This was, of course, the same search firm used to hire Pine as HC's AD. Hmmmmmm. Who cares how CBC was hired ? If NP did not know enough about the college hoops landscape, why not go to some who probably, at least in this case, knew it better ? the result was good. i could care less about the process.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 7, 2017 13:05:33 GMT -5
Tom Moore out at Quinnipiac. Quinnipiac using a search firm to hire their next head coach because, apparently, Greg Amodio isn't capable of doing his job. Quick side note: I am happy with Bill Carmody as HC's coach, but was pretty disappointed that Nate Pine used DHR International as the search firm to "find" Carmody. This was, of course, the same search firm used to hire Pine as HC's AD. Hmmmmmm. Who cares how CBC was hired ? If NP did not know enough about the college hoops landscape, why not go to some who probably, at least in this case, knew it better ? the result was good. i could care less about the process. Pine hired the same search firm to "find" his basketball coach that hired him as AD. This happens at other schools, too. You don't think this is problematic?
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Post by hchoops on Mar 7, 2017 13:10:07 GMT -5
Who cares how CBC was hired ? If NP did not know enough about the college hoops landscape, why not go to some who probably, at least in this case, knew it better ? the result was good. i could care less about the process. Pine hired the same search firm to "find" his basketball coach that hired him as AD. This happens at other schools, too. You don't think this is problematic? Is this a reputable firm ? If so, I have no problem.
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Post by lou on Mar 7, 2017 13:14:33 GMT -5
Probably happens all the time, good working relationship when hired, then as the boss you use them again
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 7, 2017 13:36:16 GMT -5
The logic seems straightforward : this company was astute enough to find me, ergo it should be astute enough to find the coach I now seek....
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 7, 2017 14:14:14 GMT -5
Tom Moore out at Quinnipiac. Quinnipiac using a search firm to hire their next head coach because, apparently, Greg Amodio isn't capable of doing his job. Quick side note: I am happy with Bill Carmody as HC's coach, but was pretty disappointed that Nate Pine used DHR International as the search firm to "find" Carmody. This was, of course, the same search firm used to hire Pine as HC's AD. Hmmmmmm. If NP did not know enough about the college hoops landscape Pine oversaw men's basketball at Maryland. If he doesn't know the college basketball landscape, then why did HC hire him as AD, when we knew we'd be replacing our men's basketball coach?
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Post by hchoops on Mar 7, 2017 14:17:49 GMT -5
Key word is "enough". No harm in getting further expertise. The proof is in the pudding. You seem to be pleased with the hire.
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Post by steve81 on Mar 7, 2017 14:26:32 GMT -5
Moore was my HS classmate at SJ. Good guy but not doing much. Kellogg is under tremendous heat may be blown out at UMass too unless AD Bamford thinks he wants to launch Whipple after this fall FB season and can't afford to eat 2 deals. Kellogg's seat is getting red hot and will need a miracle in the A10 Tournament in Pittsburgh. Whip is fine and looking forward to the Spring game. March 21 practice begins and Spring game on April 20th.
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Post by ericobeyyourthirst on Mar 7, 2017 15:25:24 GMT -5
If NP did not know enough about the college hoops landscape Pine oversaw men's basketball at Maryland. If he doesn't know the college basketball landscape, then why did HC hire him as AD, when we knew we'd be replacing our men's basketball coach? Do these search firms do the due diligence behind a candidate (ie. Pine had a list 20 people he was interested in and the firm does the initial vetting)? Is this how Masiello was discovered to not have graduated from Kentucky? Just curious to know more about the process.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Mar 7, 2017 16:02:54 GMT -5
Moore was my Hclassmate at SJ. Good guy but not doing much. Kellogg is under tremendous heat may be blown out at UMass too unless AD Bamford thinks he wants to launch Whipple after this fall FB season and can't afford to eat 2 deals. Kellogg's seat is getting red hot and will need a miracle in the A10 Tournament in Pittsburgh. Whip is fine and looking forward to the Spring game. March 21 practice begins and Spring game on April 20th. 8-28 in 3 yrs when you need to be competitive enough to attract the interest of a conference certainly isn't "fine".
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Post by purplehaze on Mar 7, 2017 16:16:44 GMT -5
No particular interest on this board but another firing as Gary Waters is out at Cleveland State
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Post by hchoops on Mar 7, 2017 16:23:05 GMT -5
Waters was the rutgers coach replaced by Mike Rice
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 7, 2017 16:32:29 GMT -5
Key word is "enough". No harm in getting further expertise. The proof is in the pudding. You seem to be pleased with the hire. Let's not be so shortsighted as to think some ADs aren't getting kickbacks for hiring certain search firms to "find" the next coach. That happens.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 7, 2017 16:33:06 GMT -5
Waters was the rutgers coach replaced by Mike Rice Fred Hill was in between Waters and Rice.
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Post by lou on Mar 7, 2017 16:42:02 GMT -5
Key word is "enough". No harm in getting further expertise. The proof is in the pudding. You seem to be pleased with the hire. Let's not be so shortsighted as to think some ADs aren't getting kickbacks for hiring certain search firms to "find" the next coach. That happens. Wow, are you saying that's what Nate Pine did?
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Post by rf1 on Mar 7, 2017 16:54:00 GMT -5
Gary Waters has an overall record of 365–307 (.543). He had a winning record at all his head coaching stops - Kent State, Rutgers, and Cleveland State. His biggest success was however early in his career at Kent State where he went 70-25 in his last three seasons leading the Golden Flashes to the NCAA, NIT ,and NCAA (won 1st rnd game).
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 7, 2017 17:00:51 GMT -5
Jim Christian is now 7-51 against ACC opponents. Everyone knew BC had to rebuild after the Donahue disaster, but I'm sure no one thought it'd be this bad. With a new BC AD coming in, I have to believe Christian will be gone soon.
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