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Post by hc1998 on Feb 3, 2023 11:40:06 GMT -5
Probably, but it also likely had to do with SDSU playing in a non-dome stadium and being in much colder temperatures than Sacramento State - UIW. Those two games were more logical for the nighttime slots on Friday night, so it then comes down to SDSU v. Montana St for the Saturday afternoon slot. Given that a noon ET kick would have meant a 10:00AM kick local time in Bozeman, the stars aligned nicely for us and SDSU getting the best time slot of the four games. Was it pre-determined this year that two games would be Friday night and two Saturday? Not sure. Last year, they played one game Friday and three Saturday. I believe they actually played all 3 other games on Friday, at least 2 of which overlapped. We were the only FCS playoff game saturday, and one of only 2 D-1 football games that day, the other being Army-Navy. I think I recall seeing a rationale for us playing Saturday AND having such an early start...I think it was a combo of travel, weather at an outdoor stadium, and wanting to put a game in the noon slot, despite being 10AM local time |
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Post by hc1998 on Feb 3, 2023 11:44:22 GMT -5
Two random thoughts: It was an entertaining game featuring an underdog with an exciting QB so casual fans may have tuned in and kept watching AND am I the only one flabbergasted that we now have seemingly leapfrogged every team in the entire CAA in terms of talent and national ranking? JMU leaving the CAA helped...I am more flabbergasted at the heights this program has risen to (not that I doubt the ability of our coaches or players, but more just comparing it to historic results for our team and our league). The PL has had some top ten teams over the years, but if my memory serves, I'm not sure any had sustained success or sustained recognition. We finished 6th this year and experts are ranking us 6 going into next season...of course we have to get it done on the field, but the fact that we could achieve so much this year and still have so many important pieces coming back next year so that similar achievements are possible is pretty incredible, and alot of fun to watch. |
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 3, 2023 11:56:55 GMT -5
Two random thoughts: It was an entertaining game featuring an underdog with an exciting QB so casual fans may have tuned in and kept watching AND am I the only one flabbergasted that we now have seemingly leapfrogged every team in the entire CAA in terms of talent and national ranking? The PL has had some top ten teams over the years, but if my memory serves, I'm not sure any had sustained success or sustained recognition. We finished 6th this year and experts are ranking us 6 going into next season... Good point. I can think of three PL teams in recent memory that have advanced to the quarters: Colgate in 2018 and 2015 and Lehigh in 2011. Those Lehigh teams were right around where we are now...but I do think we have a bit more respect nationally than they did (thanks in large part to FBS wins). Also, a lot of people recognize we put a big time scare into SDSU, who was clearly the best FCS team this season. Our PL compadres were handled in their appearances (Lehigh still has a gripe with the ridiculous Ryan Spadola suspension...game could have been different against NDSU). Here's where these teams entered the FOLLOWING season ranked after their quarterfinals appearance: Lehigh 2012: #16 Colgate 2016: #21 Colgate 2019: #13 |
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Post by hc1998 on Feb 3, 2023 12:10:49 GMT -5
Our run is really something, since losing to Harvard 10-2-21 our only losses are in the playoffs each year, but each year we advanced, this year we got a bye and advanced. We easily could have beaten Nova (not saying it would have been an easy win, but the way the game went, we could have), we beat a solid FBS team, and we gave this year's champ a run in the quarters...rankings being 19 (2021), 16 (preseason 2022), 6 (final 2022) and projected 6 (2023 preseason)...that is a real nice trajectory
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Post by HC92 on Feb 3, 2023 15:27:03 GMT -5
Don’t underestimate the impact of fifth years on our current success. If we stick with the old PL rules, we will again be fighting with one hand tied behind our back soon.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 3, 2023 22:03:22 GMT -5
Until there is some evidence that the PL will change its policy, we will have to accept it.
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Post by gks on Feb 3, 2023 23:25:21 GMT -5
Until there is some evidence that the PL will change its policy, we will have to accept it. Didn't accept the basketball ban on scholarships....don't have to accept lack of non-medical 5th years. |
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Post by hcpride on Feb 4, 2023 7:56:36 GMT -5
Until there is some evidence that the PL will change its policy, we will have to accept it. Didn't accept the basketball ban on scholarships....don't have to accept lack of non-medical 5th years. Some PL teams chose not to utilize the non-medical 5th-years and there’s no reason this freedom of choice should be restricted. We should continue on our path in this regard and others should remain free not to do so. |
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Feb 4, 2023 8:40:34 GMT -5
Don’t underestimate the impact of fifth years on our current success. If we stick with the old PL rules, we will again be fighting with one hand tied behind our back soon. If we are lucky enough to embark on another playoff run, we may face such disadvantage as soon as this year. Reason being that a lot of top FCS programs will be bringing back SIXTH year seniors who have redshirts and a COVID year at their disposal. At least 2 teams in the Top 5 that I know of (SDSU and William & Mary) are bringing virtually everyone back. Imagine HC being able to return Asante, Gilliam and Walter Reynolds for 2023.... |
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Post by hc1998 on Feb 4, 2023 8:42:00 GMT -5
Don’t underestimate the impact of fifth years on our current success. If we stick with the old PL rules, we will again be fighting with one hand tied behind our back soon. I haven't overlooked that, but all too often I am the one on here trying to get people to take off their purple tinted glasses...I decided to be positive for once. I also haven't done an in depth analysis of the benefit its given us...for example, Sluka would have still been on the team this year regardless of the extra year, correct? It certainly helps our lofty expectations for next year, and helped our performance this year...but I'm not so sure the impact was as great in 2021 which was still a much better season than we have had in over a decade, perhaps even longer. |
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Feb 4, 2023 8:54:27 GMT -5
Sluka is a true junior right now. He will have eligibility remaining for 2023 AND 2024.
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Post by efg72 on Feb 4, 2023 8:55:16 GMT -5
While they will be missed, this incoming class of recruits won’t be much of a drop off, if at all, and over the next four years might prove to be better than projected. Five years is the right number for a player at Holy Cross.
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Post by hc1998 on Feb 4, 2023 9:00:34 GMT -5
Sluka is a true junior right now. He will have eligibility remaining for 2023 AND 2024. You are absolutely right...I knew his freshman year was the shortened spring season, but I mistakenly believed that was 2020, not 2021. Makes this season even more incredible for him individually when you consider there weren't many snaps his freshman year (or even practices for that matter)...he basically put up this year's numbers with 1+ years of d-1 experience...I had mistakenly thought he was, or would have been, a senior. |
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Post by hcpride on Feb 4, 2023 9:03:15 GMT -5
Don’t underestimate the impact of fifth years on our current success. If we stick with the old PL rules, we will again be fighting with one hand tied behind our back soon. I haven't overlooked that, but all too often I am the one on here trying to get people to take off their purple tinted glasses...I decided to be positive for once. I also haven't done an in depth analysis of the benefit its given us...for example, Sluka would have still been on the team this year regardless of the extra year, correct? It certainly helps our lofty expectations for next year, and helped our performance this year...but I'm not so sure the impact was as great in 2021 which was still a much better season than we have had in over a decade, perhaps even longer. No doubt there are very good players (Sluka is one example) who are not fifth-years. Five (5) HC 5th-years were PL 1st Teamers this past year. patriotleague.org/news/2022/11/22/patriot-league-football-2022-major-awards-and-all-league-teams-announces-11-22-22.aspxFWIW, the PL Offensive and Defensive Players of the year were both 5th-years. |
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Post by efg72 on Feb 4, 2023 9:44:44 GMT -5
2023 Top FCS Recruiting Classes
Sam Herder by Sam Herder February 2, 2023
Mike Minter
Bennett Scarborough/Campbell Athletics
The 2023 FCS recruiting classes are wrapping up with high school signees.
Using the 247Sports Composite Rating, here are the top FCS recruiting classes in 2023.
High School Recruits Only
1. Campbell
Overall D1 rank: No. 92
2. Jackson State
Overall D1 rank: No. 124
3. Portland State
Overall D1 rank: No. 129
4. Austin Peay
Overall D1 rank: No. 130
5. Princeton
Overall D1 rank: No. 132
6. Florida A&M
Overall D1 rank: No. 134
7. Western Carolina
Overall D1 rank: No. 135
8. Cal Poly
Overall D1 rank: No. 137
9. Harvard
Overall D1 rank: No. 139
10. Houston Christian
Overall D1 rank: No. 141
High School Recruits + Transfers
1. Campbell
Overall D1 rank: No. 92
2. Jackson State
Overall D1 rank: No. 125
3. Cal Poly
Overall D1 rank: No. 128
4. Portland State
Overall D1 rank: No. 130
5. Austin Peay
Overall D1 rank: No. 131
6. Princeton
Overall D1 rank: No. 133
7. Florida A&M
Overall D1 rank: No. 135
8. Western Carolina
Overall D1 rank: No. 136
9. Harvard
Overall D1 rank: No. 139
10. Houston Christian
Overall D1 rank: No. 141
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Feb 4, 2023 10:07:07 GMT -5
Were these recruiting rankings done before or after Deion left Jackson State?
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Post by hchoops on Feb 4, 2023 10:54:53 GMT -5
Seems that Herder is not as high on our recruits as some
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Post by hcpride on Feb 4, 2023 11:14:56 GMT -5
Seems that Herder is not as high on our recruits as some Couldn't help noticing North Dakota/S, South Dakota/S, Montana/S, Delaware, W&M, HC, etc not on the list yet something tells me they brought in very good players. I suspect this is one of those lists that simply adds the number of reported 5, 4, 3, 2 star players together. |
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Post by necfbfan on Feb 4, 2023 11:23:19 GMT -5
2023 Top FCS Recruiting Classes Sam Herder by Sam Herder February 2, 2023 Mike Minter Bennett Scarborough/Campbell Athletics The 2023 FCS recruiting classes are wrapping up with high school signees. Using the 247Sports Composite Rating, here are the top FCS recruiting classes in 2023. High School Recruits Only 1. Campbell Overall D1 rank: No. 92 2. Jackson State Overall D1 rank: No. 124 3. Portland State Overall D1 rank: No. 129 4. Austin Peay Overall D1 rank: No. 130 5. Princeton Overall D1 rank: No. 132 6. Florida A&M Overall D1 rank: No. 134 7. Western Carolina Overall D1 rank: No. 135 8. Cal Poly Overall D1 rank: No. 137 9. Harvard Overall D1 rank: No. 139 10. Houston Christian Overall D1 rank: No. 141 High School Recruits + Transfers 1. Campbell Overall D1 rank: No. 92 2. Jackson State Overall D1 rank: No. 125 3. Cal Poly Overall D1 rank: No. 128 4. Portland State Overall D1 rank: No. 130 5. Austin Peay Overall D1 rank: No. 131 6. Princeton Overall D1 rank: No. 133 7. Florida A&M Overall D1 rank: No. 135 8. Western Carolina Overall D1 rank: No. 136 9. Harvard Overall D1 rank: No. 139 10. Houston Christian Overall D1 rank: No. 141 To say that these rankings should be taken with a grain of salt is putting it mildly. Most FCS classes reported there are incomplete and inaccurate (Heck, even some of their G5 classes are allegedly incomplete.) For example, Holy Cross is only listed as having 6 commits per 247sports, and UNH is only listed as having 1. The majority of the effort put into compiling these lists obviously centers around the P5. |
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Post by efg72 on Feb 4, 2023 11:52:50 GMT -5
Agree, just sharing what is in the public domain
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Post by Ignutz on Feb 5, 2023 17:12:13 GMT -5
2023 Top FCS Recruiting Classes Sam Herder by Sam Herder February 2, 2023 Mike Minter Bennett Scarborough/Campbell Athletics The 2023 FCS recruiting classes are wrapping up with high school signees. Using the 247Sports Composite Rating, here are the top FCS recruiting classes in 2023. High School Recruits Only 1. Campbell Overall D1 rank: No. 92 2. Jackson State Overall D1 rank: No. 124 3. Portland State Overall D1 rank: No. 129 4. Austin Peay Overall D1 rank: No. 130 5. Princeton Overall D1 rank: No. 132 6. Florida A&M Overall D1 rank: No. 134 7. Western Carolina Overall D1 rank: No. 135 8. Cal Poly Overall D1 rank: No. 137 9. Harvard Overall D1 rank: No. 139 10. Houston Christian Overall D1 rank: No. 141 High School Recruits + Transfers 1. Campbell Overall D1 rank: No. 92 2. Jackson State Overall D1 rank: No. 125 3. Cal Poly Overall D1 rank: No. 128 4. Portland State Overall D1 rank: No. 130 5. Austin Peay Overall D1 rank: No. 131 6. Princeton Overall D1 rank: No. 133 7. Florida A&M Overall D1 rank: No. 135 8. Western Carolina Overall D1 rank: No. 136 9. Harvard Overall D1 rank: No. 139 10. Houston Christian Overall D1 rank: No. 141 Were ANY of these teams in the FCS post-season? I don’t think so. While they may well have recruited some good high-school talent, I think there are a good number of other programs (including HC) that have deep squads ready to welcome their new teammates. |
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