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Post by efg72 on Feb 11, 2023 18:54:21 GMT -5
We have a 6’11” and a 6’7” for next year, (Rabs and Louth!). Plus another sniper. Possibly a few others? The jury is out on the players we've seen play college ball and, of course, the high school guy, just like any other high school guy. We need quality, not just quantity. Amen, but more on the leadership/ coaching side
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 11, 2023 19:42:49 GMT -5
I still hold out hope that at least one of Rabs and Louth will become a solid contributor
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Post by efg72 on Feb 11, 2023 19:48:11 GMT -5
They both give us something we don’t have today-size and an internal presence despite how well Gates plays and the fact he is a warrior every game
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Feb 11, 2023 22:14:31 GMT -5
I enjoyed seeing the lads win a game today. I bet they're having a fun night. As for the future of the program; que sera, sera.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Feb 12, 2023 5:19:03 GMT -5
Nice win for the team. Bo with a great all around game; before the season I said I thought the team could be really competitive if the trio of GG, Bo, and Octave could be amongst the league's top 15 players. While Bo and Joe have had their moments, the consistency has been lacking. I am glad they all continue to hang in there; it would be nice if they could knock someone off in the postseason.
Coaching question: on those out of bounds plays, is there any reason they can't try the deep ball? Have someone run hard towards the passer, stop, and then go deep? Can't be any riskier than what they've been doing.
At this point, is the only chance for avoiding a first round game is having AU experience a complete nose dive (with Lafayette having the tie breaker)? A win over BU at least would put them in a good place for a home game in the 7-10.
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Post by trimster on Feb 12, 2023 7:44:18 GMT -5
Nice win for the team. Bo with a great all around game; before the season I said I thought the team could be really competitive if the trio of GG, Bo, and Octave could be amongst the league's top 15 players. While Bo and Joe have had their moments, the consistency has been lacking. I am glad they all continue to hang in there; it would be nice if they could knock someone off in the postseason. Coaching question: on those out of bounds plays, is there any reason they can't try the deep ball? Have someone run hard towards the passer, stop, and then go deep? Can't be any riskier than what they've been doing. At this point, is the only chance for avoiding a first round game is having AU experience a complete nose dive (with Lafayette having the tie breaker)? A win over BU at least would put them in a good place for a home game in the 7-10. Surprisingly, AU is only one game ahead of the Crusaders.
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Post by timholycross on Feb 12, 2023 8:00:00 GMT -5
Nice win for the team. Bo with a great all around game; before the season I said I thought the team could be really competitive if the trio of GG, Bo, and Octave could be amongst the league's top 15 players. While Bo and Joe have had their moments, the consistency has been lacking. I am glad they all continue to hang in there; it would be nice if they could knock someone off in the postseason. Coaching question: on those out of bounds plays, is there any reason they can't try the deep ball? Have someone run hard towards the passer, stop, and then go deep? Can't be any riskier than what they've been doing. At this point, is the only chance for avoiding a first round game is having AU experience a complete nose dive (with Lafayette having the tie breaker)? A win over BU at least would put them in a good place for a home game in the 7-10. Surprisingly, AU is only one game ahead of the Crusaders. The disastah at the Hart Center a few weeks ago might be the killer in terms of how HC finishes in the standings. 'twould be nice to finish strong in any case.
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 12, 2023 8:06:51 GMT -5
t'would indeed!
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Post by notjuanjones on Feb 12, 2023 10:35:50 GMT -5
Nice win for the team. Bo with a great all around game; before the season I said I thought the team could be really competitive if the trio of GG, Bo, and Octave could be amongst the league's top 15 players. While Bo and Joe have had their moments, the consistency has been lacking. I am glad they all continue to hang in there; it would be nice if they could knock someone off in the postseason. Coaching question: on those out of bounds plays, is there any reason they can't try the deep ball? Have someone run hard towards the passer, stop, and then go deep? Can't be any riskier than what they've been doing. At this point, is the only chance for avoiding a first round game is having AU experience a complete nose dive (with Lafayette having the tie breaker)? A win over BU at least would put them in a good place for a home game in the 7-10. Surprisingly, AU is only one game ahead of the Crusaders. Not surprising if you've watched AU play the last three weeks. We are a turnover machine.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 12, 2023 10:41:55 GMT -5
At this point, is the only chance for avoiding a first round game is having AU experience a complete nose dive (with Lafayette having the tie breaker)? A win over BU at least would put them in a good place for a home game in the 7-10. Yes. Also, think AU would hold the tiebreaker against us by virtue of beating Colgate (I'm making the assumption we won't beat Colgate).
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 12, 2023 10:42:54 GMT -5
Surprisingly, AU is only one game ahead of the Crusaders. Not surprising if you've watched AU play the last three weeks. We are a turnover machine. Definitely were way too ambitious with some of the back-door passes yesterday. They were working early, but several were forced in the latter half of the first half, which allowed us to cut into the lead.
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Post by notjuanjones on Feb 12, 2023 11:24:16 GMT -5
Not surprising if you've watched AU play the last three weeks. We are a turnover machine. Definitely were way too ambitious with some of the back-door passes yesterday. They were working early, but several were forced in the latter half of the first half, which allowed us to cut into the lead. I don't mind the turnovers on the back cuts; if the pass is executed properly, it's a layup. It's worth trying, even if it leads to a handful of turnovers in a game. What drives me crazy are the silly ones. Simple entry passes to the post that we should be able to execute in our sleep that are off target, or fumbled. Our bigs not recognizing double teams coming off the catch in the post. Passes in traffic in the paint. Stuff we know better not to do by now. But we still do it, game after game.
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Post by Tom on Feb 12, 2023 12:19:03 GMT -5
Hard to imagine, but the bench seems to be getting shorter
Kirkwood DNP. Kenney only played 10 minutes without being in foul trouble. At least Tse is back giving Batch a couple of minutes in the middle of each half
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Feb 12, 2023 13:10:09 GMT -5
Winning a road game with a total of 14 minutes of contribution from the bench is beyond Herculean.
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Post by Xmassader on Feb 12, 2023 13:24:13 GMT -5
Winning a road game with a total of 14 minutes of contribution from the bench is beyond Herculean. Particularly against a team which was 15-9 coming into the game and had at least 3 players taller than HC’s tallest player.
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Post by classof83 on Feb 12, 2023 13:26:58 GMT -5
I still hold out hope that at least one of Rabs and Louth will become a solid contributor I remember watching Rabs playing against BC as a sophomore and at the time I thought he was going to develop into a pretty good Center for HC. Date - 11/12/21 Minutes - 26 Points - 11 Rebounds - 7 Steals - 1 I know he has had some injuries and we had Covid to deal with - but what the heck happened? He never was close to that number of minutes the rest of that season. I don't know if Nelson thought he was too slow but he seemed to be available the rest of that season but averaged under 6 minutes a game the rest of the season.
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Post by timholycross on Feb 12, 2023 13:52:17 GMT -5
I still hold out hope that at least one of Rabs and Louth will become a solid contributor I remember watching Rabs playing against BC as a sophomore and at the time I thought he was going to develop into a pretty good Center for HC. Date - 11/12/21 Minutes - 26 Points - 11 Rebounds - 7 Steals - 1 I know he has had some injuries and we had Covid to deal with - but what the heck happened? He never was close to that number of minutes the rest of that season. I don't know if Nelson thought he was too slow but he seemed to be available the rest of that season but averaged under 6 minutes a game the rest of the season. My guess is he has serious deficiencies in a man to man defense. That was certainly the case with Wilbar as well.
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Post by Crosser on Feb 12, 2023 13:56:04 GMT -5
I remember watching Rabs playing against BC as a sophomore and at the time I thought he was going to develop into a pretty good Center for HC. Date - 11/12/21 Minutes - 26 Points - 11 Rebounds - 7 Steals - 1 I know he has had some injuries and we had Covid to deal with - but what the heck happened? He never was close to that number of minutes the rest of that season. I don't know if Nelson thought he was too slow but he seemed to be available the rest of that season but averaged under 6 minutes a game the rest of the season. My guess is he has serious deficiencies in a man to man defense. That was certainly the case with Wilbar as well. Makes me wonder why Nelson recruited them if they weren’t going to be able to play the way he wants. I wouldn’t think that foot speed and quickness are things that can be coached up.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 12, 2023 15:15:23 GMT -5
Or play some zone when certain bigs are in the lineup. Next season, if Nelson is here or not, without any big transfer, we may have to play some zone to get any kind of big, not named Kenney, on the court.
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Post by DiMarz on Feb 12, 2023 15:39:29 GMT -5
Or play some zone when certain bigs are in the lineup. Next season, if Nelson is here or not, without any big transfer, we may have to play some zone to get any kind of big, not named Kenney, on the court. There are those out there, coaches that is. that believe if youhave no soze, yu must play m2m and pressure all the time. Pressure on the ball, double, recover...I think we would need a few more quick guards to be able to do this
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Post by hchoops on Feb 12, 2023 15:50:36 GMT -5
Until this season Nelson had his guards pick up full court after made hoops. Never double teaming, even at the end of games down a few. We were frequently beaten up the court for 5 on 4 baskets. Fortunately, he gave this strategy up this year, one reason our defensive numbers are up. Where are these “few more quick guards” coming from that you are referring to ? Hard to see us playing major minutes next season with Kenney at the 5, Octave at the 4 and Bo at the 3.
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Post by DiMarz on Feb 12, 2023 16:01:23 GMT -5
Until this season Nelson had his guards pick up full court after made hoops. Never double teaming, even at the end of games down a few. We were frequently beaten up the court for 5 on 4 baskets. Fortunately, he gave this strategy up this year, one reason our defensive numbers are up. Where are these “few more quick guards” coming from that you are referring to ? That is part pf the problem....My guess is only through the portal...A lot of players in that thing..Can we get some? who knows...WE are a small team this season, Gates plays bigger than he is...
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Post by DiMarz on Feb 12, 2023 16:06:34 GMT -5
Until this season Nelson had his guards pick up full court after made hoops. Never double teaming, even at the end of games down a few. We were frequently beaten up the court for 5 on 4 baskets. Fortunately, he gave this strategy up this year, one reason our defensive numbers are up. Where are these “few more quick guards” coming from that you are referring to ? Hard to see us playing major minutes next season with Kenney at the 5, Octave at the 4 and Bo at the 3.I have to think Rabs and Louth will be a big part of the equation next season..Louth played well in the game he got to play, Time will tell...
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 12, 2023 16:14:17 GMT -5
Lent is fast approaching, so I'll post this before I shut myself down.
I am sure that Brett Nelson is a good man. He might be a good or even a great coach . . . somewhere else. He has amply demonstrated not at Holy Cross.
He has had almost 4 full years to show that he can fit into the kind of coach that Holy Cross needs, who is able to recruit excellent players that are both qualified to get into and remain at Holy Cross and who value that education and are willing to stay for 4 years. And, getting those quality players, molding them into a successful unit in which he can achieve synergy with them. The turnover on his teams has been unprecedented in Crusader basketball history. There may well be some legitimate reasons for some of them leaving but in the end, the totality of it all falls on one person - the head coach.
I don't wish him ill. My fervent hope is that he is actively looking for another job whether as an assistant at a major program or as a head coach elsewhere. I am sure he's done his best and his best might work elsewhere - just not at Holy Cross.
It's my intention to continue attending games for the remainder of this season because the team represents our great College. I believe our players are doing their level best and have a strong desire to win. They deserve our support.
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Post by DiMarz on Feb 12, 2023 18:34:06 GMT -5
Nice win for the team. Bo with a great all around game; before the season I said I thought the team could be really competitive if the trio of GG, Bo, and Octave could be amongst the league's top 15 players. While Bo and Joe have had their moments, the consistency has been lacking. I am glad they all continue to hang in there; it would be nice if they could knock someone off in the postseason. Coaching question: on those out of bounds plays, is there any reason they can't try the deep ball? Have someone run hard towards the passer, stop, and then go deep? Can't be any riskier than what they've been doing.There are ways to run that Home Run play. It all depends on spacing to get a guy free, and how the opposition defends the inbound plays....Do it once and a while and teams will be ready for it...Save it for a big moment, it may work once..Still need somebody who can make the pass, it's not as easy as one might think, especially with an aggressive defender on the ball... and if the ball goes all the way up the court not being touched, the defensive team gets the ball back under their hoop, if the clock was not running...Was it Coach Brown who use to run it successfully??
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