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Post by longsuffering on Jun 29, 2023 10:23:38 GMT -5
How many of the FBS programs in the northeast have a higher ceiling than Holy Cross if Holy Cross invests in football seriously? You could argue Syracuse and UConn (Although both programs have been consistently bad), but who else? Do Temple, Buffalo, Army, BC, and UMass have higher ceiling than Holy Cross? I'm not sure they do. In a hypothetical conference with the aforementioned teams, I don't see why Holy Cross couldn't compete for conference titles if they continue to build this thing right. Yes all of those programs have a higher ceiling than Holy Cross. Bingo, if you consider being eligible to win the Stanley Cup as a higher ceiling than being eligible to win the Calder Cup. Who can name the 2023 Calder Cup champs? Hint: chocolate.
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Post by hcpride on Jun 29, 2023 10:37:08 GMT -5
HC football is at peak freshness now. Use by date: the next head coach change. Could still be very good after that but not a sure thing. Agree. An alternative 'use by date' could be the graduation of the last of the Covid 5th-years. Just after the 2024 season. (Sluka, BTW, has that option as part of that final covid cohort.)
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 29, 2023 10:41:14 GMT -5
HC football is at peak freshness now. Use by date: the next head coach change. Could still be very good after that but not a sure thing. Agree. An alternative 'use by date' could be the graduation of the last of the Covid 5th-years. Just after the 2024 season. (Sluka, BTW, has that option as part of that final covid cohort.) If Sluka is considered a candidate for the NFL draft after his senior season he will have to think hard about taking a leave of absence for second semester to maintain eligibility to return to HC for a fifth year.
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Post by trimster on Jun 29, 2023 10:47:15 GMT -5
Write the check and we continue to grow $5million is pocket change to make the transition One good season, the right conference and a bowl appearance and our P&L is strong Conference for allsports BC UMess UConn Colgate Fordham Syracuse Holy Cross Villanova William and Mary Richmond After Lehigh, Lafayette and Bucknell have been kicked to the curb, what do you suggest they do if they want to continue their century plus football programs? I don't expect you to come up with a future path for G.U. Even AI (artificial intelligence not academic index) is stumped by their football journey.🙂 Do you think they would care about us if those 3 were listed instead of HC, Fordham and Colgate?
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Post by bfoley82 on Jun 29, 2023 10:50:40 GMT -5
Agree. An alternative 'use by date' could be the graduation of the last of the Covid 5th-years. Just after the 2024 season. (Sluka, BTW, has that option as part of that final covid cohort.) If Sluka is considered a candidate for the NFL draft after his senior season he will have to think hard about taking a leave of absence for second semester to maintain eligibility to return to HC for a fifth year. Or he should transfer to another program at a higher level.
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Post by hcpride on Jun 29, 2023 11:06:07 GMT -5
Agree. An alternative 'use by date' could be the graduation of the last of the Covid 5th-years. Just after the 2024 season. (Sluka, BTW, has that option as part of that final covid cohort.) If Sluka is considered a candidate for the NFL draft after his senior season he will have to think hard about taking a leave of absence for second semester to maintain eligibility to return to HC for a fifth year. I'm not saying this would be a wise or unwise move or if this option would even be available to him but perhaps he graduates and goes FBS for his Covid year to prove himself against tougher opposition?
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 29, 2023 11:07:51 GMT -5
After Lehigh, Lafayette and Bucknell have been kicked to the curb, what do you suggest they do if they want to continue their century plus football programs? I don't expect you to come up with a future path for G.U. Even AI (artificial intelligence not academic index) is stumped by their football journey.🙂 Do you think they would care about us if those 3 were listed instead of HC, Fordham and Colgate? Good question. I feel protective of those schools in the sense that they are like extended family. I have no clue as to whether they feel the same way about their fellow founding league partner, Holy Cross or to what degree. I could be an oddball in my thinking. Evidence of the breakup of numerous leagues with long traditions indicate when money is involved, any sense of mutual support among long tome partners vanishes quickly.
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 29, 2023 11:10:25 GMT -5
If Sluka is considered a candidate for the NFL draft after his senior season he will have to think hard about taking a leave of absence for second semester to maintain eligibility to return to HC for a fifth year. Or he should transfer to another program at a higher level. I don't see that as likely. DeMorat didn't do that and now he is signed.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jun 29, 2023 11:13:26 GMT -5
Or he should transfer to another program at a higher level. I don't see that as likely. DeMorat didn't do that and now he is signed. A nine game starting QB over four years at Columbia ended up at Duke.... goduke.com/sports/football/roster/ty-lenhart/18557So please tell me that Sluka who is more accomplished won't have opportunities to play at the FBS level.
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 29, 2023 11:25:50 GMT -5
I don't see that as likely. DeMorat didn't do that and now he is signed. A nine game starting QB over four years at Columbia ended up at Duke.... goduke.com/sports/football/roster/ty-lenhart/18557So please tell me that Sluka who is more accomplished won't have opportunities to play at the FBS level. He'll have opportunities elsewhere but they won't be necessary for him to receive an opportunity to play in the NFL. The main attraction would be the free year of graduate school over just another semester of undergraduate education and whatever he can accomplish in his free second semester of senior year if he comes back for a fifth year at HC. He could also play himself out of NFL contention as a one year rental somewhere else. DeMorat's path is instructional here.
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Post by hcpride on Jun 29, 2023 11:32:45 GMT -5
Or he should transfer to another program at a higher level. I don't see that as likely. DeMorat didn't do that and now he is signed. DeMorat played five years at Fordham. By that logic Sluka must play 5 years at HC (I kinda like that logic now that I think about it ) All kidding aside, the two QB's couldn't be more dissimilar in terms of skillsets. And, not that it matters, the undrafted DeMorat is still a long way from making a roster. Call me crazy but QB might not even be Sluka's best hope for making an NFL roster.
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 29, 2023 11:38:06 GMT -5
I don't see that as likely. DeMorat didn't do that and now he is signed. DeMorat played five years at Fordham. By that logic Sluka must play 5 years at HC (I kinda like that logic now that I think about it ) All kidding aside, the two QB's couldn't be more dissimilar in terms of skillsets. And, not that it matters, the undrafted DeMorat is still a long way from making a roster. Call me crazy but QB might not even be Sluka's best hope for making an NFL roster. "Swivelback" There will end up being a new position named for him. A Julian Edelman type role is also a possibility. I bet Matt would be a threat as a kick or punt returner. That might be too risky to try at HC but scouts have plenty of film of his open field running.
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Post by trimster on Jun 29, 2023 11:42:18 GMT -5
I don't see that as likely. DeMorat didn't do that and now he is signed. DeMorat played five years at Fordham. By that logic Sluka must play 5 years at HC (I kinda like that logic now that I think about it ) All kidding aside, the two QB's couldn't be more dissimilar in terms of skillsets. And, not that it matters, the undrafted DeMorat is still a long way from making a roster. Call me crazy but QB might not even be Sluka's best hope for making an NFL roster. Paging Jack Lentz.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jun 29, 2023 12:32:44 GMT -5
DeMorat played five years at Fordham. By that logic Sluka must play 5 years at HC (I kinda like that logic now that I think about it ) All kidding aside, the two QB's couldn't be more dissimilar in terms of skillsets. And, not that it matters, the undrafted DeMorat is still a long way from making a roster. Call me crazy but QB might not even be Sluka's best hope for making an NFL roster. Paging Jack Lentz. Yes and Rex Kern is another example of a college star QB who became an NFL defensive back. Dick Jauron went from college RB to NFL DB. There are many more examples
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Post by bfoley82 on Jun 29, 2023 12:58:18 GMT -5
He'll have opportunities elsewhere but they won't be necessary for him to receive an opportunity to play in the NFL. The main attraction would be the free year of graduate school over just another semester of undergraduate education and whatever he can accomplish in his free second semester of senior year if he comes back for a fifth year at HC. He could also play himself out of NFL contention as a one year rental somewhere else. DeMorat's path is instructional here. He could play himself out of NFL contention at HC also with a new head coach and system.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jun 29, 2023 14:04:52 GMT -5
What?
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Post by bfoley82 on Jun 29, 2023 14:12:23 GMT -5
You think Chesney isn't going to be up for jobs after the 2023 season???
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Post by dharry13 on Jun 29, 2023 14:14:40 GMT -5
Please don't engage with the troll (foley). I beg everyone. Please don't.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jun 29, 2023 14:17:30 GMT -5
Please don't engage with the troll (foley). I beg everyone. Please don't. You're right. I should give up trying to help hum
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Post by timholycross on Jun 30, 2023 8:22:45 GMT -5
Agree. An alternative 'use by date' could be the graduation of the last of the Covid 5th-years. Just after the 2024 season. (Sluka, BTW, has that option as part of that final covid cohort.) If Sluka is considered a candidate for the NFL draft after his senior season he will have to think hard about taking a leave of absence for second semester to maintain eligibility to return to HC for a fifth year. I just hope we have a qb ready to step in after this year, have to assume he's leaving. Reminds me of when Peter Muldoon could have come back in 1985 and did not, elected to graduate on time w/his class. The qbs remaining didn't come close to his talents (and the one that came the closest and won the job got injured) and the season was a disastah..
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Post by crusader1970 on Jun 30, 2023 14:57:56 GMT -5
You think Chesney isn't going to be up for jobs after the 2023 season??? Chesney told me just last week that, while he loves HC, his main motivation for staying is that he simply enjoys beating the stuffings out of UNH too much to leave.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jun 30, 2023 15:04:12 GMT -5
You think Chesney isn't going to be up for jobs after the 2023 season??? Chesney told me just last week that, while he loves HC, his main motivation for staying is that he simply enjoys beating the stuffings out of UNH too much to leave. Good for him talking trash about a program that has played 32 playoff games to Holy Cross measly eight with two wins in the HISTORY of their program. The coaching tree at UNH is so much better than it has ever been at HC too.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jun 30, 2023 15:24:28 GMT -5
Are you really that gullible that you think Bob Chesney would talk trash about your fine school?
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 30, 2023 16:23:10 GMT -5
Classmate, stop "chumming the water." This is not Long Island! All you'll get here is a blowfish.
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Post by crusader1970 on Jun 30, 2023 17:27:58 GMT -5
Are you really that gullible that you think Bob Chesney would talk trash about your fine school? Obviously he is. LOL
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