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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 16, 2023 21:36:09 GMT -5
I like the way ND puts a lot of mustard on his passes. Lazy, low MPH passes drive me crazy as they lead to turnovers
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 16, 2023 21:48:16 GMT -5
Of all the things that you can criticize Coach Nelson for, this is not one of them. The moment was for the players. You let them celebrate as you enjoy the moment poised and collected. I think that's the right approach. For the record, Coach Carmody did not run on the floor with the players when Rob Champion hit that 3. Valvano and Massimino did it, but it's not common among coaches. For the record, Carmody was about 60 years old. And maybe my last line came across as overly critical of Nelson but he appeared aloof to me. Yeah, a different sport and I’ll defer to others but think if we had a similar last minute win in football Chesney would spend 30 seconds with the team before the handshake - and maybe I’m wrong there too. Two different coaching styles. A nice win after almost blowing a double digit lead. And, to give Nelson credit, I believe there was prior criticism that under Nelson there has been very few if any scores on inbound passes under our own basket. Well that was one. Kudos, Brett!
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Feb 17, 2023 6:35:41 GMT -5
I like the way ND puts a lot of mustard on his passes. Lazy, low MPH passes drive me crazy as they lead to turnovers ND has a 63/30 Assist/TO ratio, easily the best on the team. I remember watching this old video when it was first announced he was transferring here: I also just found this out there - anyone familiar with Unforgiving Hoops?
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Post by Crosser on Feb 17, 2023 9:20:45 GMT -5
I can’t remember a better man-to-man HC defender than Nolan. Like ever.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 17, 2023 10:06:30 GMT -5
Nolan is a very good on ball defender, but.. Greg Kinsey, Jave Meade, Torey Thomas, Pat Doherty(pre injury), Brian Wilson, Malcolm Miller (played in the NBA as a 3 and D), Austin Butler, Mike Vicens, Joe Kelly, Al Stazinski, Timmy Shea…
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Post by Tom on Feb 17, 2023 10:25:40 GMT -5
I like the way ND puts a lot of mustard on his passes. Lazy, low MPH passes drive me crazy as they lead to turnovers Uncharacteristic, but there were some bad passes down the stretch. I double checked the box score that showed only one turnover, so I'm probably remembering passes deflected out of bounds that scared me
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 17, 2023 11:06:57 GMT -5
For the record, Coach Carmody did not run on the floor with the players when Rob Champion hit that 3. Valvano and Massimino did it, but it's not common among coaches. For the record, Carmody was about 60 years old. And maybe my last line came across as overly critical of Nelson but he appeared aloof to me. Yeah, a different sport and I’ll defer to others but think if we had a similar last minute win in football Chesney would spend 30 seconds with the team before the handshake - and maybe I’m wrong there too. Two different coaching styles. A nice win after almost blowing a double digit lead. And, to give Nelson credit, I believe there was prior criticism that under Nelson there has been very few if any scores on inbound passes under our own basket. Well that was one. Kudos, Brett! Nelson may not have captured the imagination of the whole region like Coach Chesney but the core (shell?) of the team is buying in right now so let's see if they can continue winning and take us on a run. I like an underdog and there is no bigger underdog than BN and HC MBB right now, so let's see how far we can go. One PLT win this year will be progress, anything more is gravy.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 17, 2023 11:45:57 GMT -5
From Wikipedia
Recency bias is a cognitive bias that favors recent events over historic ones; a memory bias. Recency bias gives "greater importance to the most recent event",[1] such as the final lawyer's closing argument a jury hears before being dismissed to deliberate.
It commonly appears in employee evaluations, as a distortion in favor of recently completed activities or recollections, and can be reinforced or offset by the Halo effect.[2]
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Post by Tom on Feb 17, 2023 12:46:47 GMT -5
For the record, Carmody was about 60 years old. And maybe my last line came across as overly critical of Nelson but he appeared aloof to me. Yeah, a different sport and I’ll defer to others but think if we had a similar last minute win in football Chesney would spend 30 seconds with the team before the handshake - and maybe I’m wrong there too. Two different coaching styles. A nice win after almost blowing a double digit lead. And, to give Nelson credit, I believe there was prior criticism that under Nelson there has been very few if any scores on inbound passes under our own basket. Well that was one. Kudos, Brett! One PLT win this year will be progress, anything more is gravy. Strictly speaking, yes. If HC goes 2-1 in these last 3, either American or Lafayette cooperates by going 1-2, and gets that PLT win this year in the quarterfinals, I will agree with you If HC doesn't get the job done in the last 3, and knocks off Bucknell or Loyola in the 7-10 round and loses the quarterfinal game, I guess I would call it progress, but I don't think it's something I would celebrate. Coach Carmody was 2-0 in that opening round and Coach Brown was 1-0. No one really labeled those as achievements. Recent history as lowered our bar, but I still think participating in the quarterfinals is a bare minimum. A quarterfinal win this season and I will say anything more is gravy. An opening round PLT and I'm not on the gravy train
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Post by Ignutz on Feb 17, 2023 14:42:16 GMT -5
Nolan is a very good on ball defender, but.. Greg Kinsey, Jave Meade, Torey Thomas, Pat Doherty(pre injury), Brian Wilson, Malcolm Miller (played in the NBA as a 3 and D), Austin Butler, Mike Vicens, Joe Kelly, Al Stazinski, Timmy Shea… Doug Downey
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Post by DiMarz on Feb 17, 2023 15:30:00 GMT -5
Only option that had the potential to be successful. If he had not executed a bounce pass he could have opted for a pass that his the backside of the hoop which does happen. The defender on Dorsey erred by letting the ball be entered to the opposite side.from where he was standing. His job is to direct the pass to the near side by positioning his body toward that side sometimes the defender on the ball is directed to keep the ball from being lobbed to the middle...either way it was a great read by Dorsey!
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Post by timholycross on Feb 17, 2023 16:22:33 GMT -5
Nolan is a very good on ball defender, but.. Greg Kinsey, Jave Meade, Torey Thomas, Pat Doherty(pre injury), Brian Wilson, Malcolm Miller (played in the NBA as a 3 and D), Austin Butler, Mike Vicens, Joe Kelly, Al Stazinski, Timmy Shea… Doug Downey Only reason Doug was out there; great defender and energy/leadership guy, couldn't contribute much down the other end. A walk-on, by the way.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 17, 2023 19:06:59 GMT -5
Nolan is a very good on ball defender, but.. Greg Kinsey, Jave Meade, Torey Thomas, Pat Doherty(pre injury), Brian Wilson, Malcolm Miller (played in the NBA as a 3 and D), Austin Butler, Mike Vicens, Joe Kelly, Al Stazinski, Timmy Shea… Doug Downey You beat me to it. My classmate was a tremendous defender as a guard.
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 17, 2023 20:17:28 GMT -5
The defender on Dorsey erred by letting the ball be entered to the opposite side.from where he was standing. His job is to direct the pass to the near side by positioning his body toward that side sometimes the defender on the ball is directed to keep the ball from being lobbed to the middle...either way it was a great read by Dorsey! I suppose if an in-bounder has enough repetitions both in practice, games and film study, he can go through his rotations like a QB goes through his reads and look for the open man. The defense have five players on the court to four offensive players, but if practiced enough the offense knows which way they are going to move.
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Post by HCFC45 on Feb 18, 2023 0:14:55 GMT -5
Only option that had the potential to be successful. If he had not executed a bounce pass he could have opted for a pass that his the backside of the hoop which does happen. The defender on Dorsey erred by letting the ball be entered to the opposite side.from where he was standing. His job is to direct the pass to the near side by positioning his body toward that side Not only that, but look closely at the replay, Walter W started by defending Dorsey straight up, face to face, but soon after turned left looking at Batch going around the picks and totally ignored Dorsey thus allowing the pass in to go right to Bo. Walter W did not defend well and add in the T on the bench and to HC's benefit, BU earned a loss!!!
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Post by hc6774 on Feb 18, 2023 7:54:38 GMT -5
I can’t remember a better man-to-man HC defender than Nolan. Like ever. Jave terrorized PGs
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Post by Tom on Feb 18, 2023 8:43:51 GMT -5
The defender on Dorsey erred by letting the ball be entered to the opposite side.from where he was standing. His job is to direct the pass to the near side by positioning his body toward that side Walter W did not defend well and add in the T on the bench and to HC's benefit, BU earned a loss!!! I'd like to know what they got the T for
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Post by Crosser on Feb 18, 2023 10:19:23 GMT -5
Nolan is a very good on ball defender, but.. Greg Kinsey, Jave Meade, Torey Thomas, Pat Doherty(pre injury), Brian Wilson, Malcolm Miller (played in the NBA as a 3 and D), Austin Butler, Mike Vicens, Joe Kelly, Al Stazinski, Timmy Shea… Yes, I remember all these players and they were all outstanding. But, these days, watching Nolan’s footwork, hand, arm, and body movement, anticipation, disrupting plays, deflections, and continual energy bursts just doesn’t make me think “yeah he’s great, but (any player mentioned here) was a better defender than him.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 18, 2023 10:52:48 GMT -5
An anecdote When I played(sat) for the freshman team in ‘63-‘64, we occasionally scrimmaged the varsity. Once I was matched up at guard with senior Joe Kelly. After having him quickly strip my dribble, I figured I would pass before he got too close. Sorry, he deflected the pass to a teammate for a steal. So the third time I decided to pass fake first. Nope, this time he read my eyes, went into the passing lane and intercepted the pass cleanly. I have rarely seen that done in the last 60 years of watching. In future scrimmages I avoided matching up with Joe, who was a wonderful guy. In fact three of the nicer HC upperclassmen were all on that team: John Wendelken, Lloyd Hinchey and Joe.
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Post by DiMarz on Feb 18, 2023 11:31:03 GMT -5
Walter W did not defend well and add in the T on the bench and to HC's benefit, BU earned a loss!!! I'd like to know what they got the T for My guess, that "magic word" was used! (starts with F)
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Post by trimster on Feb 18, 2023 11:48:54 GMT -5
An anecdote When I played(sat) for the freshman team in ‘63-‘64, we occasionally scrimmaged the varsity. Once I was matched up at guard with senior Joe Kelly. After having him quickly strip my dribble, I figured I would pass before he got too close. Sorry, he deflected the pass to a teammate for a steal. So the third time I decided to pass fake first. Nope, this time he read my eyes, went into the passing lane and intercepted the pass cleanly. I have rarely seen that done in the last 60 years of watching. In future scrimmages I avoided matching up with Joe, who was a wonderful guy. In fact three of the nicer HC upperclassmen were all on that team: John Wendelken, Lloyd Hinchey and Joe. Speaking of great defenders and things they did you rarely saw, how about Chris Potter's uncanny ability to steal inbounds passes regularly as the point man on George Blaney's full-court press.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 18, 2023 11:54:36 GMT -5
I first saw Chris do that in high school, unfortunately against my team We had a player who also did that, against Charlie Brown’s and Joe Desantis’ Tolentine team
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Post by hcmawfawo on Feb 18, 2023 12:44:09 GMT -5
From Wikipedia Recency bias is a cognitive bias that favors recent events over historic ones; a memory bias. Recency bias gives "greater importance to the most recent event",[1] such as the final lawyer's closing argument a jury hears before being dismissed to deliberate. It commonly appears in employee evaluations, as a distortion in favor of recently completed activities or recollections, and can be reinforced or offset by the Halo effect.[2] If venturing into psychology probably best to include the full range of various forms of bias — including confirmation bias. Here is a short description to bide the time before tip. courses.lumenlearning.com/wm-principlesofmanagement/chapter/common-management-biases/
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Feb 18, 2023 13:12:01 GMT -5
I'd like to know what they got the T for My guess, that "magic word" was used! (starts with F) Fiddlesticks?
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 18, 2023 13:15:32 GMT -5
An anecdote When I played(sat) for the freshman team in ‘63-‘64, we occasionally scrimmaged the varsity. Once I was matched up at guard with senior Joe Kelly. After having him quickly strip my dribble, I figured I would pass before he got too close. Sorry, he deflected the pass to a teammate for a steal. So the third time I decided to pass fake first. Nope, this time he read my eyes, went into the passing lane and intercepted the pass cleanly. I have rarely seen that done in the last 60 years of watching. In future scrimmages I avoided matching up with Joe, who was a wonderful guy. In fact three of the nicer HC upperclassmen were all on that team: John Wendelken, Lloyd Hinchey and Joe. Speaking of great defenders and things they did you rarely saw, how about Chris Potter's uncanny ability to steal inbounds passes regularly as the point man on George Blaney's full-court press. We’ve discussed this a number of times on this forum. I don’t think those who started following HC after his career can have an understanding of just how phenomenal he was at this aspect of the game. I got to see Chris play 30 or so games so I can attest to his skill. Believe it or not one NBA player who excelled at “inbounding defense” was Celtics backup center Hank Finkel.
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