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Post by DFW HOYA on May 22, 2023 14:22:46 GMT -5
Yield rates for the class of 2026 have started coming out, though not for HC Acceptance rate / Yield rateBC 17% / 35% According to this document, HC is no longer among the schools with the most cross-applications to BC, which some people outside of New England might have assumed. As for its yield, they are likely going to lose to most of the schools who are cross-applicant peers. www.bc.edu/content/dam/bc1/offices/irp/ir/CURRENT%20Comparison%20Lists%20October%202022.pdf
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on May 22, 2023 14:33:01 GMT -5
Gee, thanks for the cheerful and optimistic commentary
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Post by hcpride on May 22, 2023 14:53:49 GMT -5
Yield rates for the class of 2026 have started coming out, though not for HC Acceptance rate / Yield rateBC 17% / 35% According to this document, HC is no longer among the schools with the most cross-applications to BC, which some people outside of New England might have assumed. As for its yield, they are likely going to lose to most of the schools who are cross-applicant peers. www.bc.edu/content/dam/bc1/offices/irp/ir/CURRENT%20Comparison%20Lists%20October%202022.pdfNot so sure if that's been the case this century... There is a math component to this sort of thing. It could very well be that a good percentage of the students who applied to HC applied to BC. But, looking from the BC end and its much larger number of applicants, perhaps a relatively small percentage of BC applicants also applied to HC. Does that make any sense because I may have confused myself while typing? (Note, USN&WR lists - - in alphabetical order - BC's top 4 cross applicants as Georgetown, Northeastern, Notre Dame. and University of Virginia. Almost identical to the list you note.)
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Post by sader1970 on May 22, 2023 16:26:47 GMT -5
What?! BC's cross applicants are not Harvard, Yale or Princeton?
If I can somehow get through life without "Ivy Envy," I can sure do it without "BC Envy."
No disrespect for any of those schools but I am pretty happy with my Holy Cross education and have also met a number of current students and recent alums and it seems to me that the College is still turning out pretty decent people who are a credit to society . . . . and very smart too!
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 22, 2023 16:32:49 GMT -5
Not so sure if that's been the case this century... There is a math component to this sort of thing. It could very well be that a good percentage of the students who applied to HC applied to BC. But, looking from the BC end and its much larger number of applicants, perhaps a relatively small percentage of BC applicants also applied to HC. Does that make any sense because I may have confused myself while typing? (Note, USN&WR lists - - in alphabetical order - BC's top 4 cross applicants as Georgetown, Northeastern, Notre Dame. and University of Virginia. Almost identical to the list you note.) Cross-application rankings are often misleading, as these are often a function of number of enrolled undergraduates. Northeastern had 92,000 applications for the class of 2026, and its right behind Villanova as #3 in BC's cross applicant rankings., To my way of thinking, there are major, major differences between what BC offers, program-wise, and what NU offers. BC had about 36,500 applications, BostU 80,000+. Tufts 35,000. Also, I daresay most of the cross-applicant institutions ranked with BC have significantly higher yields, suggesting BC is a safety school for them. What does surprise me is that Fordham doesn't make it onto BC's list.
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Post by mm67 on May 22, 2023 16:56:38 GMT -5
The whole exercise is silly!
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Post by hcpride on May 22, 2023 17:06:35 GMT -5
Not so sure if that's been the case this century... There is a math component to this sort of thing. It could very well be that a good percentage of the students who applied to HC applied to BC. But, looking from the BC end and its much larger number of applicants, perhaps a relatively small percentage of BC applicants also applied to HC. Does that make any sense because I may have confused myself while typing? (Note, USN&WR lists - - in alphabetical order - BC's top 4 cross applicants as Georgetown, Northeastern, Notre Dame. and University of Virginia. Almost identical to the list you note.) Cross-application rankings are often misleading, as these are often a function of number of enrolled undergraduates. Northeastern had 92,000 applications for the class of 2026, and its right behind Villanova as #3 in BC's cross applicant rankings., To my way of thinking, there are major, major differences between what BC offers, program-wise, and what NU offers. BC had about 36,500 applications, BostU 80,000+. Tufts 35,000. Also, I daresay most of the cross-applicant institutions ranked with BC have significantly higher yields, suggesting BC is a safety school for them. What does surprise me is that Fordham doesn't make it onto BC's list. Colgate's stats regarding acceptance rate v yield would be a bit puzzling if you didn't know their major cross-applicants. Acceptance rate / Yield rate American 41% / 22% Bucknell 33% / 27% Colgate 12% / 32% Lehigh 36% / 27% ---------------- BC 17% / 35% Davidson 17% / 50% Richmond 24% / 24% As long as Colgate correctly predicts yield, the actual number (within reason) is essentially meaningless to them.
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Post by thesip on May 22, 2023 18:41:59 GMT -5
FWIW - last year my daughter was accepted to BC and HC. She carefully considered both schools and chose HC. It truth, the decision was easy for her as every contact she had with HC was superior to that of BC. Everything from the acceptance letter (online), followed by the admitted students weekend including meeting with current students and faculty. HC grads should hold their heads high as they attended a great institution.
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Post by hchoops on May 22, 2023 19:21:09 GMT -5
Thank you, thesip Welcome and post often. I presume your daughter has had a good first year.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 22, 2023 19:39:46 GMT -5
Glad your daughter chose The College of The Holy Cross over The Diploma Mill in Chestnut Hill.
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Post by thesip on May 23, 2023 16:13:41 GMT -5
Thank you, thesip Welcome and post often. I presume your daughter has had a good first year. Yes, she had a very good first year. Made numerous friends, challenging classes, and an overall great experience. As the father of a fellow prospective student, and HC grad himself told me during admitted students weekend, “The people here (HC) are the nicest in the world.” My daughter found that to be true.
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Post by sader1970 on May 23, 2023 17:47:14 GMT -5
Ditto. I could give you a list of young men and women who are students or young alums I knew when they were students who qualify as "the nicest in he world" along with so many in the athletic department, administration, staff and faculty. I really appreciate the young folks who humor me and/or appreciate the support they see in us older alums whether cheering them on the field, court, arena; giving career advice; and the occasional (OK, annually and more frequently) financial support to the College.
Hopefully many have seen the clip that just went out from the Zoom of Jake Dobbs, Matt Sluka and Bob Chesney.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 3, 2023 19:14:44 GMT -5
Other acceptance rates of note for the class of 2027. (HC at 21 percent)
American 44 percent BC 15 percent BostonU 11 percent Bucknell 32 percent Carleton 22 percent Colgate 12 percent Colorado College 20 percent Fordham 50 percent Georgetown 13 percent Lafayette 31 percent Lehigh 28 percent Northeastern , not reported but had 96,000+ applicants so acceptance rate will be very low. Notre Dame 12 percent Richmond 22 percent Santa Clara 42 percent Smith 19 percent Villanova 21 percent
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jun 3, 2023 19:19:46 GMT -5
BU at 11% is astounding
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Post by hcpride on Jun 3, 2023 20:01:21 GMT -5
I do know BU had a yield hiccup along our lines last year so they took less kids this cycle. But 11% has got to be a new record for them.
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Post by purplehaze on Jun 4, 2023 12:46:16 GMT -5
Our 46 pct yield (assume accurate) is equally impressive as our 21 pct acceptance rate - would mean that very few, if any admits came from the wait list Did someone say how many will be in the frosh class in August ?
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 4, 2023 17:21:35 GMT -5
This fall, 815. Plus or minus, obviously, as last minute changes occur. You know, like a lady minute acceptance to Harvard.😊
That’s compared to 900+ last year.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jul 26, 2023 20:23:02 GMT -5
A new initiative to increase applications from schools in targeted cities will soon be announced.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 27, 2023 13:32:47 GMT -5
A new initiative to increase applications from schools in targeted cities will soon be announced. Why not target high achieving students? I'm sure there's a strategy behind this but at first blush it seems strange. How can students from preferred zip codes outperform students with preferred grades and test scores? Hopefully the targeting dollars spent on preferred cities will not tempt admissions to favor less qualified applicants from more desirable zip codes over more qualified applicants from the old reliable zips so as to get a return on money spent and please the architects of this initiative.
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Post by alum on Jul 27, 2023 14:19:48 GMT -5
A new initiative to increase applications from schools in targeted cities will soon be announced. Why not target high achieving students? I'm sure there's a strategy behind this but at first blush it seems strange. How can students from preferred zip codes outperform students with preferred grades and test scores? Hopefully the targeting dollars spent on preferred cities will not tempt admissions to favor less qualified applicants from more desirable zip codes over more qualified applicants from the old reliable zips so as to get a return on money spent and please the architects of this initiative. They spend plenty of time pursuing high achieving full pay students when admisisons counselors go to New England prep schools. I have to assume that this is additional outreach to find high achieving students from places they have not traditionally sought applicants.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 27, 2023 18:56:51 GMT -5
Expanding HC's reach does provide redundancy in case Boston and New York are under water in a decade (half joking) so I understand the logic. Hopefully it's just the Northeast birth dearth we are wisely diversifying to protect against.
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 27, 2023 18:58:46 GMT -5
"birth dearth?" Cute phrase.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 27, 2023 19:24:29 GMT -5
Why not target high achieving students? I'm sure there's a strategy behind this but at first blush it seems strange. How can students from preferred zip codes outperform students with preferred grades and test scores? Hopefully the targeting dollars spent on preferred cities will not tempt admissions to favor less qualified applicants from more desirable zip codes over more qualified applicants from the old reliable zips so as to get a return on money spent and please the architects of this initiative. They spend plenty of time pursuing high achieving full pay students when admisisons counselors go to New England prep schools. I have to assume that this is additional outreach to find high achieving students from places they have not traditionally sought applicants. I wonder if HC tries to balance high achieving applicants with means and high achieving applicants without means? That's awkward to consider even if it may be a necessary management function.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 27, 2023 20:24:46 GMT -5
Isn't HC "need blind" for something like the first 95% of the class? I'm betting Pak phreek can explain it well
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 28, 2023 16:38:11 GMT -5
Isn't HC "need blind" for something like the first 95% of the class? I'm betting Pak phreek can explain it well 95 percent of an admitted class has not sought fin aid. the number is significantly lower, but north of half the class. For the class that entered in the fall of 2022, 619 of 903 sought fin aid. 406 received fin aid.
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