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Post by td128 on Dec 13, 2016 18:12:10 GMT -5
Interesting development today. University of Richmond head coach Dave Rocco leaves to join fellow CAA school, University of Delaware. Why would he do that after building a strong program at Richmond over the last 5 years including a trip to the semi-finals of the FCS playoffs this year? One story has it that Rocco may be leaving because Richmond has its eye on moving to the Patriot League. Might that happen? Well, I found this quote from Coach Rocco today of interest: “To me, this is the only [FCS] league to be in, for me geographically, the only league I’d want to be in. I learned that quickly after arriving at Richmond.” Not a stretch to read that quote as an indication that Richmond is/may be leaving the CAA. Stay tuned. Would be a great addition for the PL.
www.delawareonline.com/story/sports/college/ud/2016/12/13/richmonds-rocco-new-blue-hens-football-coach/95367878/
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 13, 2016 18:17:14 GMT -5
That would be an outstanding addition. BUT, if this is for all sports, do we want an odd number in hoops?
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Post by cmo on Dec 13, 2016 18:17:34 GMT -5
Would it be all sports ?
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Post by bison137 on Dec 13, 2016 18:18:00 GMT -5
I think a Richmond move to the PL is extremely unlikely. I think Rocco's reasons for moving include a higher salary, far greater resources at Delaware, and significantly lower academic standards. At Delaware he has a chance to build a powerhouse that would have bee very hard to do at Richmond - and end up with an FBS job one way or the other.
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Post by hchoops on Dec 13, 2016 18:22:22 GMT -5
Do not know about the other sports, but I bet Chris Mooney would not be pleased about leaving the A10
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Post by bison137 on Dec 13, 2016 18:23:24 GMT -5
Do not know about the other sports, but I bet Chris Mooney would not be pleased about leaving the A10 No way that is happening.
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Post by td128 on Dec 13, 2016 18:23:48 GMT -5
Rocco was also quoted in the linked article above as saying this:
"The landscape of college football is changing rapidly,” Rocco said.
Not so sure he's talking about the Big 12, the American, and other FBS conferences.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Dec 13, 2016 18:25:24 GMT -5
I think a big part of Rocco leaving is that his assistants were being underpaid at Richmond, and he was constantly losing them to other programs. At UD, his assistants will be better compensated.
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Post by bison137 on Dec 13, 2016 18:31:03 GMT -5
Rocco was also quoted in the linked article above as saying this: "The landscape of college football is changing rapidly,” Rocco said.Not so sure he's talking about the Big 12, the American, and other FBS conferences. He is very possibly talking about Delaware moving to FBS at some point in the future.
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Post by hcgrad94 on Dec 13, 2016 19:21:12 GMT -5
It almost happened 5 or so years ago when UNH, Villanova and Richmond were all on discussions to join PL in FB. Wouldn't be shocked to see it happen. At this point most private schools especially are eyeing ways to trim FB costs, and the PL is far cheaper than the CAA.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 13, 2016 20:37:34 GMT -5
Rocco was also quoted in the linked article above as saying this: "The landscape of college football is changing rapidly,” Rocco said.Not so sure he's talking about the Big 12, the American, and other FBS conferences. He is very possibly talking about Delaware moving to FBS at some point in the future. I think that is a most plausible scenario
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Post by DFW HOYA on Dec 13, 2016 20:48:28 GMT -5
In a polite way, I'll ask the obvious: Why would a successful school join the Patriot League? For a program like UR, it's all of the spend, none of the rewards.
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Post by hc87 on Dec 13, 2016 23:01:08 GMT -5
I don't think it will happen, but it wouldn't totally shock me if it did either. The bloom is coming off the rose of FCS football imo (if it was evah there in the 1st place), I could see Richmond joining the PL for football for "the company you keep" (other PL schools and by extension the Ivies)reason rather than being in the CAA and vying for an FCS Championship that not many really care or know about across the country.
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Post by joe on Dec 14, 2016 6:53:54 GMT -5
If such a move happened would they be eligible to win the PL championship/autobid right away or would their record not count for a few years because of inequities with red shirting, etc. compared to the other PL schools?
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Post by ncaam on Dec 14, 2016 7:13:28 GMT -5
As much chance of ur joining the pl as us the big east.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 14, 2016 8:32:58 GMT -5
Richmond is flat-lining men's sports. To field a men's lacrosse team, they dis-continued men's soccer. Richmond is into the cheap sports, golf, tennis, cross-country.
The public university athletic landscape in Virginia has changed much over the past three or four decades. Once there was basically UVa, W&M, VA Tech, and to that mix has been added George Mason, James Madison, Old Dominion, and Virginia Commonwealth. JMU and ODU each have about 20,000 undergrads.
Villanova would be my guess if a CAA member were to jump to the PL for football only.
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Post by JRGNYR on Dec 14, 2016 8:39:21 GMT -5
td128, do you have the report speculating on Richmond to the PL? Just did a Google News search and couldn't locate it.
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Post by td128 on Dec 14, 2016 9:31:36 GMT -5
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Post by hcgrad94 on Dec 14, 2016 10:15:59 GMT -5
Actually far less of the spend (5 less scholarships which equates to 10 when you match womens) plus less travel.
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Post by bison137 on Dec 14, 2016 10:25:05 GMT -5
Actually far less of the spend (5 less scholarships which equates to 10 when you match womens) plus less travel. Difference of three, I believe. FCS limit is 63. PL limit is 60. Plus any Title IX effect.
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Post by hcgrad94 on Dec 14, 2016 13:53:29 GMT -5
My bad. Still a 6x$65000 decision on an annual basis plus added travel.
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Post by timholycross on Dec 14, 2016 16:00:35 GMT -5
I can't imagine them touching basketball. So if they switched, we'd have 3 flavors of schools:
1. All Sports that a school has and the PL has a league for 2. A sport or two (GU & Fordham football) 3. All But Basketball (which would be Richmond).
Unless what they're saying is that they'd go to the PL for football, then be in the CAA for everything else but basketball; which would be really odd.
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Post by hchoops on Dec 14, 2016 16:02:16 GMT -5
Would the A10 allow them to stay in hoops only ?
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Post by hcgrad94 on Dec 14, 2016 16:23:28 GMT -5
This would be an only football move (although maybe lacrosse as well).
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Post by bison137 on Dec 14, 2016 17:09:20 GMT -5
Would the A10 allow them to stay in hoops only ? Definitely not. In the unlikely event they joined the PL, it would only be for football.
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