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Post by rgs318 on May 5, 2023 11:17:11 GMT -5
I am afraid I would put watching golf on tv tied with watching paint dry. However, to be out on the course is an entirely different story. It sounds like quite an experience.
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Post by hc1998 on May 5, 2023 11:35:24 GMT -5
I am afraid I would put watching golf on tv tied with watching paint dry. However, to be out on the course is an entirely different story. It sounds like quite an experience. Its a good time...plus you get to move around, see different holes and perspectives which can fill up some of the idle time that occurs in any sporting event. Its also quite an experience to jump out ahead of the leader or the marquee player (think Tiger) a few holes in order to have a better spot to view when he finally catches up to you...the anticipation is alot of fun as you hear the roars echo through the course as he holes out each of the holes before yours |
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Post by sader1970 on May 5, 2023 11:50:40 GMT -5
I'm desperately looking for that yawn emoji. Again, not to bring up a controversial subject (but I will), golf can be a fun "game," not a sport, as it is a solo event - the golfer vs. the course rather than any defense or teammates. It's right up there with bowling. Both can be fun to play and, yes, even challenging, but under the heading of "to each his own," not something I would want to watch either on TV or in person. Tournament or not. Lived near Muirfield and never went and, just to post another bit of trivia, Ohio is the state with the most golf courses in the country.
Again, just my personal opinion but that's what Crossports is for, right?
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Post by hc1998 on May 5, 2023 12:41:57 GMT -5
I'm not sure I agree with your definition of sport...yes its the golfer vs. the course, but it is the golfer vs. the course vis a vis all of the other golfers. Using your analysis skiing, sprinting, swimming all are not sports.
If you want to say golf is not a sport, you should apply the old colloquial definition (especially since you happened to compare it to bowling)...if you can smoke and drink while "competing" it is not a sport...by that measuring stick, John Daly and I would agree with you that golf is not a sport
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Post by Sons of Vaval on May 5, 2023 13:14:43 GMT -5
I agree just randomly watching golf can be meh…. Being involved in tournament operations on a professional level is exceptional. Watching golf live, on the PGA level is alot of fun, perhaps moreso than many other sports. HC level golf tourneys may be another story...but professional tournaments are fun to attend. You get to walk the course with the top golfers in the world. In some respects, you are actually standing on the field of play, unlike in other sports. The golfers (not all, but some) will interact with you as the day goes on. I've only been to a handful of golf tournaments, and admittedly probably would not want to go as regularly as one would attend other sports, etc, but when ive been in attendance I've had some of the most fun I've had at any sporting event. Going to a lower level FedEx event (all the big names will be playing) on a Thursday or Friday is terrific. You can pretty much walk with a threesome that has a couple top 25 players in the world play in it and largely avoid crowds. In a similar realm, attending an ATP 500, 1000 or Grand Slam tournament is a home run (see what I did there?), but only if you get a grounds pass and can walk from court to court. Getting up close to a match between two top 100 players is incredible. Their court coverage and shots they hit are something else. |
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Post by longsuffering on May 5, 2023 13:37:05 GMT -5
I'm desperately looking for that yawn emoji. Again, not to bring up a controversial subject (but I will), golf can be a fun "game," not a sport, as it is a solo event - the golfer vs. the course rather than any defense or teammates. It's right up there with bowling. Both can be fun to play and, yes, even challenging, but under the heading of "to each his own," not something I would want to watch either on TV or in person. Tournament or not. Lived near Muirfield and never went and, just to post another bit of trivia, Ohio is the state with the most golf courses in the country. Again, just my personal opinion but that's what Crossports is for, right? Ohio has the most golf courses, RI has the highest percentage of Catholics, Holy Cross is 3-0 vs Georgia. I'm ready for Jeopardy. Here's a good Jeopardy question: Name the oldest living member of a D-1 NCAA champion basketball team. "Who is Bob Cousy?" Judges... |
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Post by Tom on May 8, 2023 9:01:30 GMT -5
I'm desperately looking for that yawn emoji. Again, not to bring up a controversial subject (but I will), golf can be a fun "game," not a sport, as it is a solo event - the golfer vs. the course rather than any defense or teammates. It's right up there with bowling. Both can be fun to play and, yes, even challenging, but under the heading of "to each his own," not something I would want to watch either on TV or in person. Tournament or not. Lived near Muirfield and never went and, just to post another bit of trivia, Ohio is the state with the most golf courses in the country. Again, just my personal opinion but that's what Crossports is for, right? One can make a reasonable argument that golf is not a sport. I'm with 98, I don't like the logic you used to define sport. One of my criteria (which in many cases, though not golf, can over lap your criteria) is that after the event is over, I know who won. Two of the most popular sports in the Olympics are figure skating and gymnastics. Neither one of them make my cut as a sport because after it's over we have to sit around and wait for the judges to make an announcement. As opposed to speed skating or swimming when we can all see who the first one to cross the finish line is. Even in golf, when that last putt goes in the hole I know who took the fewest number of shots, without waiting for the Russian judge to (I think subjectively) rate Rory McIlroy's swing form |
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Post by alum on May 8, 2023 9:05:18 GMT -5
I'm desperately looking for that yawn emoji. Again, not to bring up a controversial subject (but I will), golf can be a fun "game," not a sport, as it is a solo event - the golfer vs. the course rather than any defense or teammates. It's right up there with bowling. Both can be fun to play and, yes, even challenging, but under the heading of "to each his own," not something I would want to watch either on TV or in person. Tournament or not. Lived near Muirfield and never went and, just to post another bit of trivia, Ohio is the state with the most golf courses in the country. Again, just my personal opinion but that's what Crossports is for, right? One can make a reasonable argument that golf is not a sport. I'm with 98, I don't like the logic you used to define sport. One of my criteria (which in many cases, though not golf, can over lap your criteria) is that after the event is over, I know who won. Two of the most popular sports in the Olympics are figure skating and gymnastics. Neither one of them make my cut as a sport because after it's over we have to sit around and wait for the judges to make an announcement. As opposed to speed skating or swimming when we can all see who the first one to cross the finish line is. Even in golf, when that last putt goes in the hole I know who took the fewest number of shots, without waiting for the Russian judge to (I think subjectively) rate Rory McIlroy's swing form Golf is ideally contested in match play, not stroke play, so you should be able to know who wins as soon as the match is over (3 and 2, 1 up, etc.) I realize that the golf we see on television is generally not played in that format. Match play is one of the reasons the Ryder Cup can be great fun. |
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Post by alum on May 8, 2023 9:13:38 GMT -5
Personally, I have resisted efforts of some to have me play pickleball for several reasons including the fact that I never enjoyed playing tennis and this looks like tennis and, most importantly, I don't think I am old and this is a game for old people. Today's Washington Post has a piece by the always entertaining Rick Reilly on the latest craze which may or may not be a sport. www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/05/08/pickleball-hate-reasons/Opinion The only thing I hate more than pickleball is hearing about pickleballI’m 65 now, which means that, according to federal law, I have to start playing pickleball.
But I don’t want to play pickleball. I hate pickleball.
I’m fine with AARPers all over America loving pickleball. Great. Play until your arch supports melt. But why do you have to constantly tell me about it? Why do you insist I start playing with you? I get it. You moved less than 18 inches in each direction for two hours, hit a greenish ball a lot and beat Ed and Nancy Finkler in three games. SportsCenter will be right over.
Look, I tried it. I didn’t like it. Not as fun as ping-pong. Not as elegant as tennis. Not as pretty as golf. It was a lot of people who hadn’t played a sport in 30 years suddenly thinking they’re athletes. “Man, three hours of pickleball today,” my buddy will say. “It was epic.”
Reality check: There is no “epic” in napping, crochet or pickleball. It’s a game in which two mostly very old people (like me) whack a plastic whiffle kind of ball at two other mostly old people (like me), who defend an area the size of a rug (like the one in my bathroom).
Besides, it’s not a sport. Any game that you can take up after breakfast and be pretty good at by lunch is not a sport. And it’s not great exercise. A Canadian study last fall found that an hour of pickleball gets you only half as many steps as just walking the hour.
“No, it’s like tennis!” PicklePushers will argue. No, it’s nothing like tennis. Riding an electric bike doesn’t make you Lance Armstrong, and playing pickleball doesn’t make you Roger Federer. I’ve watched Federer run the equivalent of three New York City blocks on a single point. You could play pickleball for a month and not run that far.
And yet, somehow picklers manage to get hurt. When I call my buddies to do stuff now, half the time they’re injured. So far, they’ve had a torn Achilles’, a ripped rotator cuff, a blown-out knee, a pickleball elbow and one black eye.
Remember, kids: Every time you see a new pickleball court open, an orthopedist gets a new boat.
Those new courts, by the way, are swallowing up actual tennis and basketball courts. Closing down a hoops court for pickleball is like closing down a boxing gym for Zumba.
This is what comes of something dreamed up by a rich Seattle Republican politician (Joel Pritchard), who invented it decades ago with a couple of friends for their bored families on stuffy Bainbridge Island when — I’m not kidding here — they couldn’t find a shuttlecock for badminton. The catamaran must have been in the shop.
“But wait,” the PicklePushers wail. “It’s America’s fastest-growing sport!”
So what? The Diphyllobothrium is a fast-growing tapeworm. Doesn’t mean I want it. Worse news: More and more young people have been infested. The Flabbiest Generation seems to be putting down TikTok and actually (gasp) going outside. |
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Post by sader1970 on May 8, 2023 11:11:54 GMT -5
“Even in golf, when that last putt goes in the hole I know who took the fewest number of shots, without waiting for the Russian judge to (I think subjectively) rate Rory McIlroy's swing form”
😂😂😂 “Fewest shots?” You never played with some of my buddies. Into the woods; into the water; a few into the sand traps. So, what did he get? Always one less than the lowest guy claimed on the hole.
But, then again, he was our marketing guy, not a “real” insurance guy like underwriter or claims guy.
Nah, golf is a game, not a sport. JMO. Golf and bowling- physical exercise. A nice and good thing. Just not a sport.
Let’s see if we can hit 15 pages of posts. I’m doing my part.😉
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Post by Tom on May 8, 2023 11:33:26 GMT -5
Well, I could being this full circle and go back to the topic of the thread and poll you started. Both men's and women's golf are listed in the poll you created as candidates to be people's favorite HC sport
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Post by sader1970 on May 8, 2023 12:47:50 GMT -5
Don’t use logic on me!
I simply listed all the “sports” the College lists. So, how is golf doing in the poll so far?😉😂
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Post by longsuffering on May 8, 2023 13:49:37 GMT -5
Don’t use logic on me! I simply listed all the “sports” the College lists. So, how is golf doing in the poll so far?😉😂 They are in the rough. |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on May 8, 2023 15:07:59 GMT -5
Reilly is a very talented writer-pickle ball column is most entertaining. Has everyone read “Who’s Your Caddy?”—very entertaining.
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Post by Chu Chu on May 8, 2023 15:33:52 GMT -5
Personally, I have resisted efforts of some to have me play pickleball for several reasons including the fact that I never enjoyed playing tennis and this looks like tennis and, most importantly, I don't think I am old and this is a game for old people. Today's Washington Post has a piece by the always entertaining Rick Reilly on the latest craze which may or may not be a sport. www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/05/08/pickleball-hate-reasons/Opinion The only thing I hate more than pickleball is hearing about pickleballI’m 65 now, which means that, according to federal law, I have to start playing pickleball.
But I don’t want to play pickleball. I hate pickleball.
I’m fine with AARPers all over America loving pickleball. Great. Play until your arch supports melt. But why do you have to constantly tell me about it? Why do you insist I start playing with you? I get it. You moved less than 18 inches in each direction for two hours, hit a greenish ball a lot and beat Ed and Nancy Finkler in three games. SportsCenter will be right over.
Look, I tried it. I didn’t like it. Not as fun as ping-pong. Not as elegant as tennis. Not as pretty as golf. It was a lot of people who hadn’t played a sport in 30 years suddenly thinking they’re athletes. “Man, three hours of pickleball today,” my buddy will say. “It was epic.”
Reality check: There is no “epic” in napping, crochet or pickleball. It’s a game in which two mostly very old people (like me) whack a plastic whiffle kind of ball at two other mostly old people (like me), who defend an area the size of a rug (like the one in my bathroom).
Besides, it’s not a sport. Any game that you can take up after breakfast and be pretty good at by lunch is not a sport. And it’s not great exercise. A Canadian study last fall found that an hour of pickleball gets you only half as many steps as just walking the hour.
“No, it’s like tennis!” PicklePushers will argue. No, it’s nothing like tennis. Riding an electric bike doesn’t make you Lance Armstrong, and playing pickleball doesn’t make you Roger Federer. I’ve watched Federer run the equivalent of three New York City blocks on a single point. You could play pickleball for a month and not run that far.
And yet, somehow picklers manage to get hurt. When I call my buddies to do stuff now, half the time they’re injured. So far, they’ve had a torn Achilles’, a ripped rotator cuff, a blown-out knee, a pickleball elbow and one black eye.
Remember, kids: Every time you see a new pickleball court open, an orthopedist gets a new boat.
Those new courts, by the way, are swallowing up actual tennis and basketball courts. Closing down a hoops court for pickleball is like closing down a boxing gym for Zumba.
This is what comes of something dreamed up by a rich Seattle Republican politician (Joel Pritchard), who invented it decades ago with a couple of friends for their bored families on stuffy Bainbridge Island when — I’m not kidding here — they couldn’t find a shuttlecock for badminton. The catamaran must have been in the shop.
“But wait,” the PicklePushers wail. “It’s America’s fastest-growing sport!”
So what? The Diphyllobothrium is a fast-growing tapeworm. Doesn’t mean I want it. Worse news: More and more young people have been infested. The Flabbiest Generation seems to be putting down TikTok and actually (gasp) going outside.Alum, Thanks for your entertaining post. Also, you are the first person in sports history to make comparison to Diphyllobothrium latum! As you seem to know, it is the largest tapeworm that can infect people, and some have been noted to grow up to 30 feet long. That is not a typo! Your opinion of pickle ball is unduly harsh, IMO. I never liked tennis either, but I have enjoyed pickle ball. The big difference is that with tennis, you have to play quite a while before you get good enough to start having fun. With pickle ball, it is great fun right away! I think that is why you find yourself the subject of repeated invitations to play. People are just sharing their enthusiasm. |
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Post by sader1970 on May 8, 2023 16:00:53 GMT -5
My goodness! This is written like it's a bad thing. Pickleball? Why, when there's always golf? Or bowling? Or doing jigsaw puzzles? (right, 45?  ). On a somewhat, but not totally serious note, our local park tennis courts are getting a lot more pickleball use than tennis but still a few tennis holdouts. I have not yet been desperate enough to try pickleball and gave up tennis about 25 years ago. A bit of a relief because I often walk an hour: |
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Post by sader1970 on May 8, 2023 16:53:29 GMT -5
Don’t use logic on me!
I simply listed all the “sports” the College lists. So, how is golf doing in the poll so far?😉😂
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Post by alum on May 8, 2023 19:09:15 GMT -5
Chu—-Most of that was the great Rick Reilly’s work. I’m not very funny, unfortunately. Pedantic, perhaps but humorous, sadly no!
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 8, 2023 19:13:13 GMT -5
My parents belong to a pool & tennis club in Westchester County in New York.
They are converting 1 of the 5 tennis courts to pickleball. Guessing you can fit at least two pickleball courts into one tennis court.
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