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Post by Tom on May 26, 2023 7:40:00 GMT -5
Mom!! When is Lent coming again? 🙏🏻 Feb 14, 2024
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Post by sader1970 on May 26, 2023 9:22:17 GMT -5
You're NOT my mother!
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 27, 2023 7:12:38 GMT -5
There's the old adage about people living in glass houses not throwing stones.
The College of the Holy Cross is named after a church in Boston. The church was founded by a French priest Abbe Claude Bouchard de la Poterie. The church later became a cathedral. The church was named by Abbe Bouchard for a relic of the True Cross, which the Abbe brought to Boston, intending that the relic be venerated.
On arriving in Boston in 1788, Abbe de la Poterie declared that he was a "graduate of the University of Angers; a Doctor of Divinity; Knight of the Holy Sepulcher of Jerusalem, and member of two learned academies in Rome." On his person, he had a relic of the True Cross.
In November 1788, the 'Rev. Abbe de La Poterie, Missionary Apostolic in New England, and Founder of the First Roman Catholic Chapel in Boston, consecrated the church and dedicated it “to the Most High Almighty GOD, under the title and invocation of the HOLY CROSS.” On this occasion the Abbé “exposed, in a solemn manner, to the veneration of the Christians, the true CROSS of our LORD, JESUS CHRIST, which he brought from Rome—has dedicated to God, under the Title of the HOLYCROSS, and put this Church, and the Catholick Congregation, under the special protection of the blessed VIRGIN MARY."
In early 1789, Francophonic members of Abbe Bouchard's congregation wrote to the Archbishop of Paris apparently asking for help in providing liturgical vestments, paraphernalia etc. for the new church. The archbishop responded by providing a used set of vestments, but also warning the congregation "against wandering priests, and informed them that faculties had been taken from De la Poterie in Paris on account of his culpable conduct".
From a biography of Rev. John Carroll S.J., Superior of Missions for North America: “The Rev. Dr. Carroll had also learned that he had been imposed on by an unworthy priest, whose life at Paris, Rome, and Naples was by no means creditable. His conduct in Boston justified the information, and the Very Rev. Prefect deputed the Rev. William O’Brien, of New York, to proceed to New England and withdraw the faculties of the wretched priest.” According to the Rev. J. M. Finotti, “letters from Paris tore the sheep’s skin from the wolf’s back, and Poterie’s ministrations came to a sorry and quick end, on the 29th of May, 1789, when he was suspended."
[At this time, the Jesuits were suppressed as a religious order throughout Western Europe. In 1784, Pope Pius VI appointed Carroll, a Jesuit, as Superior of Missions for the 13 states of the new republic.]
Abbe Bouchard despised the Jesuits, writing and publishing in Philadelphia in 1789 a vitriolic pamphlet attacking the Society. In January 1790, this front page announcement from Abbe Bouchard in a Boston newspaper, the Herald of Freedom: "Finally, the Abbé [Bouchard] will by no means refrain from rendering a public tribute of praise, homage and adoration to the Almighty, by singing the songs of Sion, in the temple which he has first opened and dedicated to the great creator, and if the jealous and intruding Jesuit, who is at present the priest of the congregation, and whose FOOTING is yet very uncertain, shall attempt to impose upon him a scandalous silence, holding in his hands the divine majesty (as audaciously did on Christmas, this hasty and wrongful priest, this wordy and tedious ROSSELET, this very poor orator and bad preacher, not able to persuade a single proselyte, but made to scare every one, by his rough speech, and insupportable accent, and by his eyes dark and hollow, this discordant and melancholy singer, in a word this jesuit by mission, by conduct, by manners, by rule and principle). This will be only an additional inducement to the Abbe, to divulge and publish all the indignities of his brotherhood, in all the orders of the church universal, which has expelled them from its bosom, and to expose the derision already incurred by the ceremonials and Spanish caricatures, and by the disgusting forms of proscribed Jesuitism, detesting and despising the fanatacism and intolerance of the latter, and the odious inquisition of the former."
Aside from his anti-Jesuit diatribes, Abbe Bouchard was a priest with embellished credentials, who perpetrated several frauds during his rather brief stay in the United States. As for the relic of the True Cross, it can still be found at the Cathedral of the Holy Cross in Boston. Like so much of Abbe Bouchard, it too is a fake (although not acknowledged as such by the Cathedral).
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Post by mm67 on May 27, 2023 7:43:17 GMT -5
The "true cross" was not true? Is it known if Abbe Bouchard was aware of this? Certainly, this whole episode involving a "music man" abbe was an inauspicious antecedent to the founding of The College of THE Holy Cross.
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Post by sader1970 on May 27, 2023 10:48:03 GMT -5
The one, true cross in Boston a fraud?!! Where's Indiana Jones when we need him to find it? Oh, that's right, he's coming back for one, last film.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 27, 2023 10:54:50 GMT -5
The "true cross" was not true? Is it known if Abbe Bouchard was aware of this? Certainly, this whole episode involving a "music man" abbe was an inauspicious antecedent to the founding of The College of THE Holy Cross. At the time that Abbe Bouchard arrived in Boston (1788), there were in all of France, four relics of the True Cross. 1.) The relic possessed by the Eglise de la Sainte-Croix, on Ile de la Cite in Paris. This relic is probably the one spirited away from the Abbey of saint Germain des Pres to Ile de la Cite for safekeeping during a siege of Paris in 885 by Viking raiders. The original abbey was purpose-built by Childebert in the Sixth Century, Childebert, king of the Franks, received the relic in 542 CE from the bishop of Zaragoza in Spain. Childebert purpose-built an abbey in Paris where two relics, a relic of the True Cross, and a relic of Saint Vincent (a tunic), could be venerated. The abbey was originally named the Abbaye de Sainte-Croix-et-Saint Vincent. This abbey was soon renamed Abbey Saint Germain des Pres. The Eglise de Sainte-Croix was built in 1136, and demolished in 1794 as a consequence of the French revolution. No trace of this relic has been found. It was probably hidden in the early days of the Revolution, and subsequently lost. Its very antiquity lends some credibility to claims it may have been authentic; i.e., found by St. Helena. (The original True Cross has a tangential relationship to Holy Cross. The True Cross was discovered in the Holy land by Saint Helena, the mother of the Roman Emperor Constantine, the In Hoc Signo Vinces guy. 2.) The relic at Sainte-Chapelle in ile de la Cite. As described by the Met museum in New York, " King Louis IX of France (r. 1226-70), later Saint Louis, undertook two crusades to the Holy Land. He acquired relics of Christ's passion from his cousin, the Latin emperor of Constantinople Baldwin II, most notably a piece of the True Cross and also the Crown of Thorns. He brought these relics to Paris and installed them in the Sainte-Chapelle, a church that he had built to house them". In 1804 (post-Revolution France), this relic of the True Cross was transferred to the Archbishop of France for safekeeping in the vaults of Notre Dame de Paris. Following the fire, this relic is being stored at the Louvre. 3.) The relic at Notre-Dame de Paris. This relic came to Notre Dame from the state treasury of Poland and Lithuania, brought to Paris by King John Casimir of Poland in 1668. Casimir had abdicated the throne and fled to France, and brought with him a relic of the True Cross. This relis is also being temporarily stored at the Louvre. 4.) The relic at the Abbaye de Sainte-Croix in Poitiers, France. Gifted to the abbey in 567 by the Emperor of Byzantium. The relic remains in the possession of this abbey, and is venerated. Surely coincidentally, Abbe Bouchard was for a short period a parish priest in the diocese of Poitiers.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 27, 2023 11:01:14 GMT -5
The one, true cross in Boston a fraud?!! Where's Indiana Jones when we need him to find it? Oh, that's right, he's coming back for one, last film. No need for Indiana. The True Cross in the South End repository, AKA the Cathedral of the Holy Cross, is kept in a mahogany box. Mahogany is a tree growing only in the Western Hemisphere. Abbe Bouchard had sailed from French colonies in the West Indies aboard a French naval ship, and the naval squadron was making a port call in Boston on its way back to France when the Abbe jumped ship.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 27, 2023 11:16:17 GMT -5
The 'Crusader' nickname was introduced by a native of Worcester, a gifted sports writer, who was probably a 32nd degree Mason. The Masons are big on crusaders, particularly the Knights Templar. A Catholic who joins the Masons is excommunicated.
From wiki
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 27, 2023 11:21:12 GMT -5
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