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Post by midwestsader05 on Jan 31, 2024 13:34:35 GMT -5
Putting full-pay walk on players on scholarship has made great viral video material for some time. And at FBS, there’s no guess work as it’s all or nothing. In FCS, these are obviously more sensitive conversations. However, one use case for a player during the Chesney era. As a benchmark:
Player came in as a PWO. Won a starting job his soph year. Chesney put him on a 50% scholarship after that season. He remained at 50% his junior season and received all PL honors. After the player was voted Captain going into senior year and was set to be a 3 year starter and preseason consecutive All PL performer, Ches called him into his office around the first game of the season and told him he was putting him on full scholarship for his senior year.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Jan 31, 2024 14:03:05 GMT -5
Putting full-pay walk on players on scholarship has made great viral video material for some time. And at FBS, there’s no guess work as it’s all or nothing. In FCS, these are obviously more sensitive conversations. However, one use case for a player during the Chesney era. As a benchmark: Player came in as a PWO. Won a starting job his soph year. Chesney put him on a 50% scholarship after that season. He remained at 50% his junior season and received all PL honors. After the player was voted Captain going into senior year and was set to be a 3 year starter and preseason consecutive All PL performer, Ches called him into his office around the first game of the season and told him he was putting him on full scholarship for his senior year. And if this is shocks you that a player so under recruited could have so much collegiate success, it shouldn't. In the past 3 seasons, we've had SEVEN Captains arrive on the Hill as freshman with less than 50% scholarships. The PWO mentioned above, 2 at 10%, 1 at 25%, and 3 b/t 30-50%. And my best guess right now is 2 of the 4 Captains in 2024 will continue this trend. Turning back to this thread, dismiss the under recruited "Level 2 and 3" commits at your own peril. The key to FCS success is still player retention and development. These kids often show up to campus with big chips on their shoulders and something to prove. Plus, they likely haven't been told how great they are by everyone around them since elementary school. Oh and 3 of our 4 current NFL players fit this mold.
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Post by hcnj on Jan 31, 2024 16:52:10 GMT -5
Great "existence proof" stories and observations. With no real knowledge on my part and very little time in their position I've had the feeling that Curran & Co may be even more attuned to these facts in terms of being willing to take a chance on their own evaluations and spread money, or just recruiting effort capital into the 2s and 3s to maximize bang. Time will tell but Curran got hired to make these decisions.
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 31, 2024 18:34:48 GMT -5
I felt that HC had better talent than Merrimack. However, whether that was due to the raw talent of the athletes themselves or the coaching they received at their respective schools I cannot say.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Jan 31, 2024 18:49:58 GMT -5
Great "existence proof" stories and observations. With no real knowledge on my part and very little time in their position I've had the feeling that Curran & Co may be even more attuned to these facts in terms of being willing to take a chance on their own evaluations and spread money, or just recruiting effort capital into the 2s and 3s to maximize bang. Time will tell but Curran got hired to make these decisions. I think simply, you have to have wins/hits at all three levels to build a sustainable culture and winning program. It’s just that your Misses in Level 1 are so costly at the FCS level.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Jan 31, 2024 18:50:45 GMT -5
I felt that HC had better talent than Merrimack. However, whether that was due to the raw talent of the athletes themselves or the coaching they received at their respective schools I cannot say. I wouldn’t overthink it. We had more talent because we had nearly double the scholarships. Merrimack’s scholarship total is still closer to D2 than it is FCS.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Feb 1, 2024 8:59:10 GMT -5
6 days til signing day. To reset the board: 15 players so far make up this class. 10 signed NLI’s in December and 5 have verbally committed during the 2nd period.
QB - ? RB - Treadwell WR - Cason, Newton, Gordon TE - Schoonmaker OL - Booker (OT) , Rood (G/T) , Earle (IOL)
DL - Prichard-Sewell, McSweeney LB - Croley CB - Gardner, Newsome S - Haas
P/K - Moss
There could have been as many as 6 silent commits as of yesterday. When I look out at roster years 2025/2026, which will dictate the needs of this class, I expect CB and OL as the focus this final weekend. Those positions as well as QB are likely where we could see potentially 2 commits by Feb 7th. DL looks thin now but that was a huge priority last couple weeks.
TE, LB, and WR are also likely spots where we need just 1 player to fill the class.
So, if say we hold those 6 silent commits through next Wednesday, the class would be 21 right now. I’m guessing the final number will be 25-28 once things are all said and done. Ended up being a bigger class than many of us thought.
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Post by dharry13 on Feb 1, 2024 9:28:51 GMT -5
I agree with all of the above. Nice work Midwest.
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Post by drjack on Feb 1, 2024 10:49:01 GMT -5
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Post by Chu Chu on Feb 1, 2024 13:17:28 GMT -5
"On February 7, 2024 Churchill Bulldog OL Jackson Roon 6 ‘3” 275 will sign his National Letter of Intent and accept a football scholarship to Holy Cross.
College of The Holy Cross is in the prestigious Patriot League and is a mainstay in the D1-FCS top 25."
This jumped out at me. I have been used to seeing all kinds of permutations, including "university" and misspelling of Worcester, but these guys got our messaging exactly right!
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Post by drjack on Feb 1, 2024 13:34:49 GMT -5
I won't lie that was a big reason I felt it worth posting 🤣
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Post by midwestsader05 on Feb 3, 2024 13:01:26 GMT -5
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Post by drjack on Feb 3, 2024 13:05:25 GMT -5
You can maybe follow the tea leaves from his social media and maybe find a few more of the silent commits from last weekend
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Post by td128 on Feb 3, 2024 13:08:39 GMT -5
GREAT DAY to be a CRUSADER !!
Let's Win !!
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Post by drjack on Feb 3, 2024 13:11:38 GMT -5
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Post by midwestsader05 on Feb 3, 2024 13:16:59 GMT -5
I’ll quote DHarry “a 73% completion percentage with 42 TDs v 3 Ints would be impressive in 7 on 7 against Middle schoolers much less The top classification in TN”
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Post by deep Purple on Feb 3, 2024 13:17:39 GMT -5
With most qb hudl tapes you'll see some bad throws into coverage or in a spot where the receiver makes the great catch and makes the qb look good. You really don't see that with Graham. He's seeing and hitting the open guy in nearly every one of the highlights.
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Post by drjack on Feb 3, 2024 13:20:00 GMT -5
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Post by dharry13 on Feb 3, 2024 13:20:10 GMT -5
Terrific pocket presence and Gatorade POY for the state of TN. This kis has some gumption.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Feb 3, 2024 13:26:39 GMT -5
Some great quotes from Braden in there about the recruting process in general, especially advice he gives to other HS recruits.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 3, 2024 13:30:51 GMT -5
Assume his recruitment started with Chesney team-is that correct? Well the Curran team certainly finished it off!!
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Post by midwestsader05 on Feb 3, 2024 13:32:01 GMT -5
Assume his recruitment started with Chesney team-is that correct? Well the Curran team certainly finished it off!! No it did not. All Curran and Dresner. Remember the prior staff’s QB Commit - Carson Rauner from NE - tore up his knee this fall and is reclassifying to 2025. Dan and Dres made this happen with only a month to build a relationship.
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Post by matunuck on Feb 3, 2024 13:32:53 GMT -5
“They have phenomenal facilities.” Thanks HC admin for not letting the faculty decide what we should build and not build.
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Post by drjack on Feb 3, 2024 13:34:23 GMT -5
Assume his recruitment started with Chesney team-is that correct? Well the Curran team certainly finished it off!! No it did not. All Curran and Dresner. Remember the prior staff’s QB - Carson Rauner from NE - tore up his knee this fall and is reclassifying to 2025. Excellent work by them then!
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Post by drjack on Feb 3, 2024 14:39:55 GMT -5
Also confirmed to be our highest ranked recruit ever by 247 standards. I'd imagine on3 as well but I can't seem to find that.
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