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Post by rgs318 on Nov 2, 2023 8:52:38 GMT -5
I believe with co-champs it is the conference that decides who will get the auto-bid.
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 2, 2023 9:04:42 GMT -5
That might be true (I have my doubts on that) but if it is not already in the tie-breaker rules, I can't believe the "league" would not pick Lafayette seeing that they beat us . . . . on our field. Fair's fair. They may well not be the better team but they were that day. No, either 2 teams have to bump them off or we go undefeated and get an at-large or . . . . . season over for us.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 2, 2023 9:11:28 GMT -5
I believe with co-champs it is the conference that decides who will get the auto-bid. Yes. And the first tie-breaker per PL bylaw is head to head, which goes to Laffy. If Lafayette and HC both go 5-1, both of us would get rings though I believe. But of course, the Leopards would get the auto. I was thinking along the lines of at-large consideration, would it help us even a sliver if we were a conference co-champion? I doubt it but you never know. I seem to recall a year where a CAA South team may or may not have gotten hosed because the committee opted to take the CAA North champ for one of the last at large spots.
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 2, 2023 14:03:20 GMT -5
W&M definitely needs to win out. If they lose to Albany, even a season-ending win over Richmond won't do much for them -- UR would have at least 4 losses should that happen. I think UR is a near-lock if they win out since they'll have won 7 of 8 to finish 8-3. That early season loss to Morgan St IMO would hurt them badly if they were to finish 7-4. I view W&M and Richmond's prognosis much like Holy Cross right now -- 90% in at 8-3 but almost 100% out at 7-4. OK, I generally think all these fine points are fascinating but overrated, but if push comes to shove for the last in, does the committee place any value on geographic diversity/representation in the 24 team field?
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 2, 2023 14:19:50 GMT -5
W&M definitely needs to win out. If they lose to Albany, even a season-ending win over Richmond won't do much for them -- UR would have at least 4 losses should that happen. I think UR is a near-lock if they win out since they'll have won 7 of 8 to finish 8-3. That early season loss to Morgan St IMO would hurt them badly if they were to finish 7-4. I view W&M and Richmond's prognosis much like Holy Cross right now -- 90% in at 8-3 but almost 100% out at 7-4. OK, I generally think all these fine points are fascinating but overrated, but if push comes to shove for the last in, does the committee place any value on geographic diversity/representation in the 24 team field? If it will give the NCAA an incremental bus trip as opposed to a charter they have to pay for, definitely not impossible. I also think if a close tie-breaker for an at-large could go to an HBCU for reasons of wanting to keep those two conferences in the playoff fold whenever possible.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 2, 2023 14:28:29 GMT -5
OK, I generally think all these fine points are fascinating but overrated, but if push comes to shove for the last in, does the committee place any value on geographic diversity/representation in the 24 team field? If it will give the NCAA an incremental bus trip as opposed to a charter they have to pay for, definitely not impossible. I also think if a close tie-breaker for an at-large could go to an HBCU for reasons of wanting to keep those two conferences in the playoff fold whenever possible. Which is why NC Central absolutely needs to win the MEAC (likely beating Howard to do so). A 9-2 NC Central that doesn't win the MEAC, probably gets an at-large. Bad for us.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Nov 2, 2023 14:32:38 GMT -5
If it will give the NCAA an incremental bus trip as opposed to a charter they have to pay for, definitely not impossible. I also think if a close tie-breaker for an at-large could go to an HBCU for reasons of wanting to keep those two conferences in the playoff fold whenever possible. Which is why NC Central absolutely needs to win the MEAC (likely beating Howard to do so). A 9-2 NC Central that doesn't win the MEAC, probably gets an at-large. Bad for us. Also, don’t forget Tennessee State is an HBCU. They could be in at 9-2 (8-2 D1). I think they are out at 8-3 should they lose to Eastern Illinois who’s playing tough this year with the Georgetown grad transfer quarterback Pierce Holley.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 2, 2023 15:16:19 GMT -5
Which is why NC Central absolutely needs to win the MEAC (likely beating Howard to do so). A 9-2 NC Central that doesn't win the MEAC, probably gets an at-large. Bad for us. Also, don’t forget Tennessee State is an HBCU. They could be in at 9-2 (8-2 D1). I think they are out at 8-3 should they lose to Eastern Illinois who’s playing tough this year with the Georgetown grad transfer quarterback Pierce Holley. But they're in the OVC. I don't think the committee favors HBCUs in general but I think they'll bend at least a little to get the SWAC and MEAC involved in the tourney when the opportunity arises.
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 2, 2023 16:37:35 GMT -5
This is more nerve wracking than being on the bubble for a seed, but being on the bubble for a slot is better than being out of contention completely. Let's beat Lehigh with authority!
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 2, 2023 17:44:14 GMT -5
Very disappointed in how this season has gone but Bob Chesney is Mr. Positive:
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 2, 2023 18:05:59 GMT -5
The HCBC clip keep stopping and rebooting. Anyone else have problems with it?
It finally played almost all the way through.
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Post by newfieguy74 on Nov 4, 2023 7:03:09 GMT -5
Wouldn't the fact that HC barely lost to a now bowl eligible BC help our cause?
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Post by hc1996 on Nov 4, 2023 8:04:07 GMT -5
We may have lost, but we were the better team. BC got lucky.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 5, 2023 11:36:03 GMT -5
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Post by cruskater31 on Nov 5, 2023 12:06:42 GMT -5
Good insight from Prof Chaos on AGS. Very appropriate username from the NDSU fan!
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Post by cruskater31 on Nov 7, 2023 9:32:46 GMT -5
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 7, 2023 9:46:42 GMT -5
Need to take this with a grain of salt. This outlet has Incarnate Word as a seed. They are likely not even a playoff team. Should Nicholls win out, they win the Southland. If UIW wins their final game against Houston Christian, they will be 9-2...but one of those wins is by forfeit over Northwestern State and another win is against non-D1 North American University.
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Post by alum on Nov 8, 2023 6:32:09 GMT -5
I didn’t see this posted yet, so here’s the latest bracketology from Sam Herder herosports.com/fcs-football-2023-playoff-predictions-4-bzbz/He has HC as a bubble team. His comments: Holy Cross and Lafayette have one loss in the Patriot League standings, and Lafayette owns the head-to-head win. HC is hoping Lafayette loses again while it wins out to get the AQ. If not, HC’s chances at an at-large bid aren’t great, but not impossible. Holy Cross’ injury-riddled roster will need to beat FBS Army this weekend and then beat Georgetown to finish 8-3. That may be good enough for an at-large bid, but the number of ranked FCS wins will be zero. Does the FBS win carry enough weight for HC to bump multiple teams and get in? Maybe. But if they don’t beat Army, who is 3-6, the Crusaders are likely left out at 7-4 and no quality wins.
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 8, 2023 7:31:12 GMT -5
See? My alias is Sam Herder.😂😂😂
NOW will you listen to me?!!😉
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Post by hcpride on Nov 8, 2023 7:40:58 GMT -5
Not just any bubble team: Bubble Teams Left OutOrdered from the best chance to make the bracket out of this group to the worst chance.25. Youngstown State26. Chattanooga27. UIW28. Richmond29. Holy Cross30. Central Arkansas
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Post by hcpride on Nov 8, 2023 7:48:19 GMT -5
If we handle this wisely, I'm fairly certain we can go 1-1 and have my doubts Laffy can go 2-0. HC with the auto-bid.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 8, 2023 7:58:51 GMT -5
If we handle this wisely, I'm fairly certain we can go 1-1 and have my doubts Laffy can go 2-0. HC with the auto-bid. How is this HC handling anything wisely ? Beating a 4-5 Georgetown and praying for a Lafayette loss ?
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Post by hcpride on Nov 8, 2023 8:03:47 GMT -5
If we handle this wisely, I'm fairly certain we can go 1-1 and have my doubts Laffy can go 2-0. HC with the auto-bid. How is this HC handling anything wisely ? Beating a 4-5 Georgetown and praying for a Lafayette loss ? Laffey lost last week (to Colgate) and I'm not certain how much HC prayer was involved.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 8, 2023 8:08:52 GMT -5
Playing Dobbs and Sluka against Army and beating Georgetown at home on senior day are not mutually exclusive.
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Post by nhteamer on Nov 8, 2023 9:01:12 GMT -5
It's the Harvard loss that's the killer.
Rivalry games are unpredictable; maybe Lehigh beats Lafayette
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