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Post by bringbackcaro on Jan 21, 2017 1:26:29 GMT -5
CARO looking like clairvoyant on his bold prediction on demise of BU. Bucknell is the only team playing with any consistency, Lehigh is hard to figure as they appear to be most talented team but seem to play down to their competition. We are now in position to make a good run at the upper echelon of the league as we have both BU and Lehigh at home in the second half of league play. Not exactly rocket science, but I appreciate the praise. Helps build me back up after John "Clock Tower" Wooden tries to tear me down  -Bucknell has a chance because they are pretty talented and have the best coach in the league. -Lehigh is the most talented team in the league, so they should be the favorite if they kick it into grear, but Dr Brett Read is a well below average coach. -Holy Cross has two seniors who can take over games/take over the PL Tournament and has the confidence from winning the PL last year. The rest of the teams would be long shots, and BU has a 0.0% chance. |
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Post by ncaam on Jan 21, 2017 3:27:20 GMT -5
Gents, gotta give BBC kudos for seeing BU as a paper tiger. And isn't making predictions about sports what a message board is all about. Make enough predictions and you will have some success and some failure. Our moderator said hc v Bucknell was pick 'em  ?? Hoops/konchalski said good things about TC. Both were terribly wrong (they nail it on occasion too) as was I in saying bu, bu and Lehigh would run away and hide. Cheers to BBC for his BU unmasking. |
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Post by hchoops on Jan 21, 2017 15:50:08 GMT -5
, Army tied Navy at the buzzer
Reggie Miller doing a fine job as the color guy
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Post by ncaam on Jan 21, 2017 16:08:58 GMT -5
Bucknell beats BU.... BU tanks down stretch...bringbackcaro up for prognosticator of the year award...still would like to know why key personnel still suspended for BU...SCS?
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Post by hchoops on Jan 21, 2017 16:09:24 GMT -5
Navy wins 96-80 in ot
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Post by lou on Jan 21, 2017 16:10:54 GMT -5
Army down 10 with 40 seconds in regulation, ties game, then into OT. Army loses by 16 five minutes later
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Post by hchoops on Jan 21, 2017 18:43:11 GMT -5
'Gate over Loyola, 52-49
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Post by hc2489 on Jan 21, 2017 18:56:53 GMT -5
Gents, gotta give BBC kudos for seeing BU as a paper tiger. And isn't making predictions about sports what a message board is all about. Make enough predictions and you will have some success and some failure. Our moderator said hc v Bucknell was pick 'em ?? Hoops/konchalski said good things about TC. Both were terribly wrong (they nail it on occasion too) as was I in saying bu, bu and Lehigh would run away and hide. Cheers to BBC for his BU unmasking. They still could be right on this. Sadly, we won't get a chance to see how good TC could have been at HC. |
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Jan 21, 2017 19:11:22 GMT -5
Bucknell beats BU.... BU tanks down stretch...bringbackcaro up for prognosticator of the year award... Hard to even imagine where this board would be without your complete fabrications and the stellar contributions of the both of you. |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 21, 2017 20:58:49 GMT -5
Lehigh had all it could do to beat Lafayette, winning by 7 though LAF led for a while.
one tidbit from the Navy game: Navy shooting guard Bryce Dulin had 17 rebounds-
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Post by crossbball13 on Jan 21, 2017 21:32:10 GMT -5
CARO looking like clairvoyant on his bold prediction on demise of BU. Bucknell is the only team playing with any consistency, Lehigh is hard to figure as they appear to be most talented team but seem to play down to their competition. We are now in position to make a good run at the upper echelon of the league as we have both BU and Lehigh at home in the second half of league play. Not exactly rocket science, but I appreciate the praise. Helps build me back up after John "Clock Tower" Wooden tries to tear me down -Bucknell has a chance because they are pretty talented and have the best coach in the league. -Lehigh is the most talented team in the league, so they should be the favorite if they kick it into grear, but Dr Brett Read is a well below average coach. -Holy Cross has two seniors who can take over games/take over the PL Tournament and has the confidence from winning the PL last year. The rest of the teams would be long shots, and BU has a 0.0% chance. Hc has a 1 in 3 chance to win back to back championships? Fire carm! |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 22, 2017 0:02:28 GMT -5
Cedric Hankerson of BU---is he injured? His shooting woes continued today against Bucknell as he went 1-8 on threes, making him 2-20 in BU's three consecutive losses. In the prior three games, all BU wins, he was 15-26 on threes. He very seldom takes a two point fg attempt
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Post by bringbackcaro on Jan 22, 2017 0:14:08 GMT -5
Not exactly rocket science, but I appreciate the praise. Helps build me back up after John "Clock Tower" Wooden tries to tear me down -Bucknell has a chance because they are pretty talented and have the best coach in the league. -Lehigh is the most talented team in the league, so they should be the favorite if they kick it into grear, but Dr Brett Read is a well below average coach. -Holy Cross has two seniors who can take over games/take over the PL Tournament and has the confidence from winning the PL last year. The rest of the teams would be long shots, and BU has a 0.0% chance. Hc has a 1 in 3 chance to win back to back championships? Fire carm! Product of Carm or product of how sh*tty the league is right now? The RW HC teams, Flannery Bucknell teams, Jeff Jones American teams, and even Billy Taylor (academically ineligible?) Lehigh teams from the first decade of the 2000's would steamroll anyone in the PL right now. |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 22, 2017 0:25:11 GMT -5
You are selling Bucknell short
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jan 22, 2017 8:11:42 GMT -5
"imo" and "imho" are 2 message board acronyms that should be used on this board more often, imho.
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Post by lou on Jan 22, 2017 8:32:37 GMT -5
Caro is 100.0% sure of everything he says
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Post by bison137 on Jan 22, 2017 11:39:22 GMT -5
Hc has a 1 in 3 chance to win back to back championships? Fire carm! Product of Carm or product of how sh*tty the league is right now? The RW HC teams, Flannery Bucknell teams, Jeff Jones American teams, and even Billy Taylor (academically ineligible?) Lehigh teams from the first decade of the 2000's would steamroll anyone in the PL right now. The best few Flannery and RW teams were better than this year's Bucknell or Lehigh teams - but they certainly wouldn't "steamroll" them. But Jeff Jones only had one team as good as this year's top teams - his 2009'team, which had a final Pomeroy ranking of #112. As for Billy Taylor's teams, it is clear you weren't paying attention. Every single Lehigh team he coached, including 2004, was much weaker than this year's top teams. |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 22, 2017 13:20:07 GMT -5
Product of Carm or product of how sh*tty the league is right now? The RW HC teams, Flannery Bucknell teams, Jeff Jones American teams, and even Billy Taylor (academically ineligible?) Lehigh teams from the first decade of the 2000's would steamroll anyone in the PL right now. The best few Flannery and RW teams were better than this year's Bucknell or Lehigh teams - but they certainly wouldn't "steamroll" them. But Jeff Jones only had one team as good as this year's top teams - his 2009'team, which had a final Pomeroy ranking of #112. As for Billy Taylor's teams, it is clear you weren't paying attention. Every single Lehigh team he coached, including 2004, was much weaker than this year's top teams. One thing that impresses me about this Bucknell team is its second half comebacks. Perhaps this holds true for all good teams, i.e. when they, improbably, find themselves down at the half against a team they should be beating, they storm back in the second half to win. Maybe it's just a matter of the randomness of shooting luck reverting to the norm...or it could be that Bucknell this year has a deep team that is able to wear their opponents down in the second half as the opponents tire but Bucknell keeps going. Bucknell has been down at the half four of eight games this season. Bucknell was outscored by Lehigh in both halves and lost, but against Navy the Bison were (9) in the first half then +13 in the second. Versus American it was (4) then +13 and yesterday against Boston U it was (7) then +18. I think Bucknell has talent in depth. |
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Post by bringbackcaro on Jan 22, 2017 14:48:45 GMT -5
Product of Carm or product of how sh*tty the league is right now? The RW HC teams, Flannery Bucknell teams, Jeff Jones American teams, and even Billy Taylor (academically ineligible?) Lehigh teams from the first decade of the 2000's would steamroll anyone in the PL right now. The best few Flannery and RW teams were better than this year's Bucknell or Lehigh teams - but they certainly wouldn't "steamroll" them. But Jeff Jones only had one team as good as this year's top teams - his 2009'team, which had a final Pomeroy ranking of #112. As for Billy Taylor's teams, it is clear you weren't paying attention. Every single Lehigh team he coached, including 2004, was much weaker than this year's top teams. [ Sounds like your just basing it blindly off Pomeroy rankings? Do you really think the top of the league is as strong as it was for almost every year in the first decade of the 2000's? If so, it's clear you "aren't paying attention." The talent on this Bucknell team is far more reminiscent of the team that lost to Sean Kearney's Crusaders in the 09-10 season than the Flannery teams. Lehigh is talented, but poorly coached and have lost to some really bad teams (something that just didn't happen for those years when HC and Bucknell were basically only losing to each other). Jeff Jones' early teams with Miles and Stokes, a couple teams with Ingram, and his later teams with Carr and Mercer would be favorites to win the league this year. Lehigh's top teams when they had combinations of Austin Rowland, Jose Olivero, and Joe Knight would be right at the top of this year's PL. |
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 22, 2017 14:58:05 GMT -5
And I think the Crusader NCAA and NIT team champs would kill any of these teams this year.  Who cares how a team from 3, 5, 10, 50 years ago would do against these teams? Not me. Willard, Flannery, et. al. are gone. And so are all their players. |
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Post by bison137 on Jan 22, 2017 15:34:51 GMT -5
The best few Flannery and RW teams were better than this year's Bucknell or Lehigh teams - but they certainly wouldn't "steamroll" them. But Jeff Jones only had one team as good as this year's top teams - his 2009'team, which had a final Pomeroy ranking of #112. As for Billy Taylor's teams, it is clear you weren't paying attention. Every single Lehigh team he coached, including 2004, was much weaker than this year's top teams. [ Sounds like your just basing it blindly off Pomeroy rankings? Do you really think the top of the league is as strong as it was for almost every year in the first decade of the 2000's? If so, it's clear you "aren't paying attention." The talent on this Bucknell team is far more reminiscent of the team that lost to Sean Kearney's Crusaders in the 09-10 season than the Flannery teams. Lehigh is talented, but poorly coached and have lost to some really bad teams (something that just didn't happen for those years when HC and Bucknell were basically only losing to each other). Jeff Jones' early teams with Miles and Stokes, a couple teams with Ingram, and his later teams with Carr and Mercer would be favorites to win the league this year. Lehigh's top teams when they had combinations of Austin Rowland, Jose Olivero, and Joe Knight would be right at the top of this year's PL. Its obvious you are totally clueless about the PL and anything that has happened in it in the last 20 years. Yes, I think Pomeroy us fairly accurate - and I know it's far more accurate than anything you gave posted. Btw, Pomeroy rankings say that there has been only one year (2013) when the PL was better than this year. |
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Post by ncaam on Jan 22, 2017 17:21:58 GMT -5
Patriot League is very comfortable in the low mid major category. Only good team this year is Bucknell. Everyone else is mediocre at best. Might have trouble winning a play in game. IMHO (NAD)
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Post by bringbackcaro on Jan 22, 2017 23:02:25 GMT -5
[ Sounds like your just basing it blindly off Pomeroy rankings? Do you really think the top of the league is as strong as it was for almost every year in the first decade of the 2000's? If so, it's clear you "aren't paying attention." The talent on this Bucknell team is far more reminiscent of the team that lost to Sean Kearney's Crusaders in the 09-10 season than the Flannery teams. Lehigh is talented, but poorly coached and have lost to some really bad teams (something that just didn't happen for those years when HC and Bucknell were basically only losing to each other). Jeff Jones' early teams with Miles and Stokes, a couple teams with Ingram, and his later teams with Carr and Mercer would be favorites to win the league this year. Lehigh's top teams when they had combinations of Austin Rowland, Jose Olivero, and Joe Knight would be right at the top of this year's PL. Its obvious you are totally clueless about the PL and anything that has happened in it in the last 20 years. Yes, I think Pomeroy us fairly accurate - and I know it's far more accurate than anything you gave posted. Btw, Pomeroy rankings say that there has been only one year (2013) when the PL was better than this year. No offense, but you're an idiot if you think the top of the PL is better now than it was during the middle of the first decade of the 2000s. |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 22, 2017 23:46:34 GMT -5
two different issues/debates (1) overall strength of the conference and (2) strength of top few teams. It's possible for the conference to be stronger (than it was in a reference period) even if its top team is not.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 28, 2017 14:58:32 GMT -5
Lafayette was down 37-11 at one point but came back and trails 41-30 at the half versus Loyola.
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