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Post by longsuffering on Dec 7, 2023 13:09:25 GMT -5
You have more faith in that man than I do I do. I lost track of which man we are referring to but I have high regard for Chesney, Kit and PVR and see no villains so far. I am positive that PVR's sentiments are heart felt because they are 100% accurate. Coach Chesney has left everyplace he's been better off.
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Post by drjack on Dec 7, 2023 13:12:59 GMT -5
I'm referring to Kit. I have no ill will towards FHCBC, though I am annoyed at the timing of it and how long this dragged out, but that's a me problem. PVR is fantastic and I have nothing bad to say towards or about him.
Kit, I do not trust, and I expect him to be at JMU when their current AD finally retires. I'd love to be wrong, but I'm trusting my gut on this one.
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Post by Ignutz on Dec 7, 2023 13:14:32 GMT -5
Will someone be starting an Additional-Players-to-the-Portal / Decommitted Recruits thread?
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Post by hc2020 on Dec 7, 2023 13:15:59 GMT -5
IMO: Who announces they are leaving with HCBC to JMU will tell us how impactful this will truly be for the program, at least in the short term.
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Post by drjack on Dec 7, 2023 13:16:15 GMT -5
Will someone be starting an Additional-Players-to-the-Portal / Decommitted Recruits thread? I'll be trying to monitor as best I can. My main concern right now is Pritchard-Sewell
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 7, 2023 13:20:13 GMT -5
I'm referring to Kit. I have no ill will towards FHCBC, though I am annoyed at the timing of it and how long this dragged out, but that's a me problem. PVR is fantastic and I have nothing bad to say towards or about him. Kit, I do not trust, and I expect him to be at JMU when their current AD finally retires. I'd love to be wrong, but I'm trusting my gut on this one. The modern AD role requires blowing so much smoke that it's tough to get a handle on the true nature of the occupant of that position. I also have a fuzzier sense of Kit than I do of Chesney and PVR. He's on the clock now.
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Post by Ray on Dec 7, 2023 13:25:38 GMT -5
I'm referring to Kit. I have no ill will towards FHCBC, though I am annoyed at the timing of it and how long this dragged out, but that's a me problem. PVR is fantastic and I have nothing bad to say towards or about him. Kit, I do not trust, and I expect him to be at JMU when their current AD finally retires. I'd love to be wrong, but I'm trusting my gut on this one. The modern AD role requires blowing so much smoke that it's tough to get a handle on the true nature of the occupant of that position. I also have a fuzzier sense of Kit than I do of Chesney and PVR. He's on the clock now. This is literally the biggest part of his job description.. making hire/fire decisions for coaches. He got Nelson/Paulsen right. I've got some faith he'll get this one right too.
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Post by newfieguy74 on Dec 7, 2023 13:26:59 GMT -5
Donors received email a few minutes ago. Says a national search is starting. Fire Kit Hughes for criminal negligence. Wow, this is way over the top. I would assume he's been working on his search for days.
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Post by purplenurple on Dec 7, 2023 13:32:51 GMT -5
Fire Kit Hughes for criminal negligence. Wow, this is way over the top. I would assume he's been working on his search for days. And planning for months if not years given how hot a commodity BC became.
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Post by beerseach on Dec 7, 2023 13:34:42 GMT -5
Nothing but love and respect for Coach Bob Chesney and what he has accomplished at Holy Cross. I wish him and his family nothing but the absolute best at JMU. Now lets spend our efforts finding a solid replacement....
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Post by nhteamer on Dec 7, 2023 13:36:37 GMT -5
Nothing but love and respect for Coach Bob Chesney and what he has accomplished at Holy Cross. I wish him and his family nothing but the absolute best at JMU. Now lets spend our efforts finding a solid replacement.... Agree 100% Nuncio
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Post by hc1996 on Dec 7, 2023 13:37:59 GMT -5
Looks like Ches will be back beating up on UConn in 2026. We should all go and wear Holy Cross gear. Wonder if he'll schedule a game against HC???
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Post by efg72 on Dec 7, 2023 13:48:56 GMT -5
I heard someone asked him to consider HC for a buy game in three years.
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Post by alum on Dec 7, 2023 13:52:34 GMT -5
Boston Globe story
Holy Cross’s Bob Chesney named James Madison football coach By Amin Touri Globe Staff,Updated December 7, 2023, 1 hour ago
Bob Chesney’s steady climb through the college football ranks will reach another rung with the Holy Cross coach being named to the same job at James Madison
Chesney will replace Curt Cignetti, who led the Dukes through a seamless transition into FBS with an 8-3 season in 2022 and an 11-1 season, a Top 25 ranking, and an appearance in the Armed Forces Bowl in 2023.
Cignetti resigned last week to take the job at Indiana ahead of his team’s unexpected bowl game berth. The Dukes were initially ineligible for postseason play after their transition to FBS, but they were granted a reprieve without enough bowl-eligible teams to fill the schedule.
Chesney just wrapped up his sixth season in Worcester, having turned the Crusaders into an FCS powerhouse. Holy Cross hadn’t reached the postseason in a decade before Chesney arrived on campus. He led the program to five straight Patriot League titles and four consecutive NCAA Tournament trips from 2019-23.
Chesney’s tenure at Holy Cross hit its peak with back-to-back 6-0 seasons in the Patriot League in 2021-22. The Crusaders finished 2022 as the sixth-ranked team in FCS and reached the quarterfinals of the NCAA Tournament for the first time since 1983, falling to eventual champion North Dakota State.
The 46-year-old Chesney wraps up his tenure with a 44-21 record — and a 28-4 mark in Patriot League play — having overseen perhaps the most successful era in Worcester since the program’s 1980s renaissance under Rick E. Carter and Mark Duffner.
Holy Cross missed out on the postseason in 2023 for the first time since 2018 despite sharing the Patriot League title with Lafayette. Holy Cross lost the head-to-head matchup to the Leopards at home, a 38-35 shootout on Oct. 21, which gave Lafayette the tiebreaker and an automatic bid into the NCAA Tournament.
The Crusaders were 7-4 this season, their worst record since Chesney’s first season, and did not receive an at-large bid. They did come within a breath of a massive upset, but came up short on the final drive in a 3-point road loss to Boston College in September.
Chesney’s last move was a short one — he came to Holy Cross from Assumption College across town, where he’d done a similar job. The Greyhounds had claimed just two winning seasons since 1995 before Chesney arrived in 2013, and he immediately rattled off five straight winning campaigns that included two Northeast-10 titles and three Division 2 NCAA Tournament appearances.
It was a similar story at his previous stop, Division 3 Salve Regina in Rhode Island. Chesney took over a team on a run of eight straight losing seasons and immediately turned things around in Newport with three straight winning seasons and Salve Regina’s first conference title since 2000.
For more than a decade, Chesney has proven his chops in turning losing programs into perennial winners at progressively higher levels, from Division 3 to Division 2 to Division 1 in FCS. Taking over at James Madison is another step up, but with an unfamiliar challenge; the Dukes are already one of the best teams in the country, ranked No. 24 in the last three AP polls after steamrolling the Sun Belt Conference in their second season at college football’s highest level.
There’s nothing for Chesney to rebuild in Harrisonburg like he did in Newport or Worcester. He’ll instead be tasked with keeping the Dukes’ remarkable momentum going after the first bowl appearance in program history.
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Post by classof83 on Dec 7, 2023 13:56:07 GMT -5
Just wondering -
IIRC HC renegotiated BC's deal last year.
Does anyone know whether HC, as part of the new deal, was to receive any money from the school that hires BC away?
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 7, 2023 14:00:05 GMT -5
Looks like Ches will be back beating up on UConn in 2026. We should all go and wear Holy Cross gear. Wonder if he'll schedule a game against HC??? Yes if there is a mutual opening.
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Post by JRGNYR on Dec 7, 2023 14:02:35 GMT -5
Congratulations to Coach Chesney and many thanks for the remarkable job he did with the football program. He exceeded expectations and set an awfully high bar for the next person in the position.
Speaking of which, to those of you who are already hand-wringing about what may or may not have been done regarding finding his replacement, please take a deep breath, maybe even step back from the keyboard, and count to 20. Just my experience and common sense tell me that ADKH has a short list already created of potential candidate targets if and when this day came. He's had it at least for weeks since the Syracuse rumors started. It's entirely possible (likely?) he had it before. It's relatively common practice to have an evolving watch list of sorts in the event your higher profile jobs in the department become available.
If you're an AD at the FCS level, it's part of life. You have to be prepared for this day to come, and if it does in this way it's because your coach helped bring immense success to the program. Considering the alternatives, this is the best outcome we could've hoped for outside of a lifetime contract for Coach and well... that's just not how the world works, even if many of us wish that was the case.
Those types of cases are the extreme exception, not the rule, so while we're at it, any of you who are somehow begrudging Coach Chesney right now... you're making this about yourself and your own feelings and not about him, his family, his financial future, what he did for HC and the big opportunity that awaits him at JMU. I know it's difficult to put down the purple glasses sometimes but here it's required, at least inasmuch as the way we bid Coach farewell. We should demonstrate the same level of class to him in his departure as he demonstrated to the College in his last six years of pouring his heart and soul into the program.
The assumption that ADKH wasn't somehow ready for this is presumptuous. The "national search" language is part of every one of these press releases. I wouldn't get tied up in knots about that at all. It's boilerplate for these types of statements.
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Post by alum on Dec 7, 2023 14:03:04 GMT -5
Just wondering - IIRC HC renegotiated BC's deal last year. Does anyone know whether HC, as part of the new deal, was to receive any money from the school that hires BC away? I would assume we will find this out. If JMU cuts a check to HC, it will be a public record which can be requested.
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 7, 2023 14:05:08 GMT -5
Just wondering - IIRC HC renegotiated BC's deal last year. Does anyone know whether HC, as part of the new deal, was to receive any money from the school that hires BC away? During the extension negotiations, Coach Chesney was coming off a 12-1 season and had the leverage. Hoping for the biggest buyout possible and wondering if the facts will soon be public as JMU is a State school.
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Post by hc1996 on Dec 7, 2023 14:06:21 GMT -5
Just wondering - IIRC HC renegotiated BC's deal last year. Does anyone know whether HC, as part of the new deal, was to receive any money from the school that hires BC away? During the extension negotiations, Coach Chesney was coming off a 12-1 season and had the leverage. Hoping for the biggest buyout possible and wondering if the facts will soon be public as JMU is a State school. If there was no buyout, then heads need to roll. That would be absolutely ridiculous.
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 7, 2023 14:06:42 GMT -5
Pretty sure this makes it official Funny they use one of the images from his Assumption days in that...
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Post by 78purple on Dec 7, 2023 14:07:10 GMT -5
I'm referring to Kit. I have no ill will towards FHCBC, though I am annoyed at the timing of it and how long this dragged out, but that's a me problem. PVR is fantastic and I have nothing bad to say towards or about him. Kit, I do not trust, and I expect him to be at JMU when their current AD finally retires. I'd love to be wrong, but I'm trusting my gut on this one. The modern AD role requires blowing so much smoke that it's tough to get a handle on the true nature of the occupant of that position. I also have a fuzzier sense of Kit than I do of Chesney and PVR. He's on the clock now. completely agree....well said
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 7, 2023 14:07:57 GMT -5
The modern AD role requires blowing so much smoke that it's tough to get a handle on the true nature of the occupant of that position. I also have a fuzzier sense of Kit than I do of Chesney and PVR. He's on the clock now. This is literally the biggest part of his job description.. making hire/fire decisions for coaches. He got Nelson/Paulsen right. I've got some faith he'll get this one right too. He got it right after playing nine games to a 2-7 overall record....ok
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Post by Ray on Dec 7, 2023 14:17:14 GMT -5
This is literally the biggest part of his job description.. making hire/fire decisions for coaches. He got Nelson/Paulsen right. I've got some faith he'll get this one right too. He got it right after playing nine games to a 2-7 overall record....ok Get lost already.
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 7, 2023 14:18:17 GMT -5
He got it right after playing nine games to a 2-7 overall record....ok Get lost already. You said he got it right....not me I called the Chesney move over three years ago crossports.freeforums.net/post/199082
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