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Post by hc87 on Jan 6, 2017 1:02:45 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure most of us appreciate bison's posts. No, that's fine....passively, aggressively agree with everything that bison137 says/posts...I'm sure he really has Holy Cross' best interests at heart. He can post here...fine...but let's not delude ourselves that he has HC's best interests at heart.
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 6, 2017 4:32:14 GMT -5
OK, HC snaps the regular season PL streak at 9 away losses - no double figures. Sloppy at times (but saw only one careless pass - it resulted in a steal and bucket by Colgate). the streak was 9 last season 1 this season Thanks, Lou, for keeping me on my toes. .
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Post by hchoops on Jan 6, 2017 7:58:15 GMT -5
our 16 assists on 23 hoops raised us nationally to #4 in assists per FG
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Post by timholycross on Jan 6, 2017 9:38:59 GMT -5
Box Score sez attendance was 728.
In order for it to be over 200, the section directly across from the HC bench would have to have been packed (the only part of the stands you couldn't see in the telecast). I doubt it was.
You know your league sucks when they inflate the attendance by 300% and it's still under 1K !
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Post by hc6774 on Jan 6, 2017 9:52:07 GMT -5
Box Score sez attendance was 728. In order for it to be over 200, the section directly across from the HC bench would have to have been packed (the only part of the stands you couldn't see in the telecast). I doubt it was. You know your league sucks when they inflate the attendance by 300% and it's still under 1K ! you could see the stands opposite the benches, they were not packed... there was a hand held camera [& mic?] under the basket next to HC bench that picked them up... in the first half it sounded like HC had the better of the vocal support... probably from our bench... not so much in the 2nd half
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Post by bikeman on Jan 6, 2017 10:00:58 GMT -5
Good to see the team learning how to win games. We're seeing the impact a good coach has. Looking positive for a winning record this year. A little better each year. That's what you want to see.
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Post by lou on Jan 6, 2017 10:02:19 GMT -5
As has been pointed out here many times, gotta love the camera under the basket. Have missed [viewing] many great out of bounds plays because of the need to keep those two extra cameras on the job
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Post by hc6774 on Jan 6, 2017 10:18:49 GMT -5
Good to see the team learning how to win games. We're seeing the impact a good coach has. Looking positive for a winning record this year. A little better each year. That's what you want to see. I don't think this is a good example of how to win at the end... except for KC I don't know who we want at the foul line at crunch time; I used to be comfortable with AT, MA, RC or PB, not so much now... Bad foul by RC with 18 secs turned out good when Colgate missed
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jan 6, 2017 10:23:43 GMT -5
Like the Sacred Heart gym, Cotterell is a house of horrors.....good to get out of there with the W. Get ready for the Bison! Adding Payne Whitney to the house of horrors, as well.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 6, 2017 10:56:34 GMT -5
Foul shots--always a favorite topic. We are not getting to the line as often as we did last year : last year FT/FGA= 36.1 (36 free throw attempts per 100 field goal attempts) for #188 in D-1 versus 32.0 this year for #249. Our percentage is off a little from .687 LY to .673 TY and the result is that we have gone from making 13.3 free throws per game to making 10.6, a significant decline. KC at .754 is the only regular doing well from the line
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Post by rickii on Jan 6, 2017 11:49:41 GMT -5
A road win, finally. Horrendous foul shooting, but they are putting it together, certainly better than the last two games. Respectfully disagree. I'm going to be blunt....
I wasn't expecting 14-4 by now but really surprised there hasn't been more carry-over from the end of last year.
MA has been ok but it's apparent he's reached his ceiling. Charles hasn't improved and has been wildly inconsistent game to game. Husek ? Hard to grasp how a 6'11" 240lb. returning Senior starter can't be more effective....AT LEAST in rebounding....versus much smaller opponents. Champion....this was the kid I thought - based on last post-season - was really going to emerge into a clear go-to leader. Great swing-man size, great on court brain and a knack for clutch plays. But, though not as bad as Charles, he has been a disappointment with inconsistent play and poor shouting.
In general, the team doesn't look markedly better at this point than last year but neither does the PL. What gives with Lehigh ? Will we again go on a late season run ?
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Post by sader81 on Jan 6, 2017 12:10:23 GMT -5
A road win, finally. Horrendous foul shooting, but they are putting it together, certainly better than the last two games. Respectfully disagree. I'm going to be blunt....
I wasn't expecting 14-4 by now but really surprised there hasn't been more carry-over from the end of last year. . . .
It's whether you see the glass as half full or half empty. They've won 4 of their last 5; even though they have not shown their best basketball of the year in any of those games. I'm satisfied with a win, but would be more satisfied if they blew Gate out last night after their great start. This team has never been able to keep the foot on the gas pedal when the get a team down. Their sometimes mediocre play aside, they will be in the mix come March.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jan 6, 2017 12:37:39 GMT -5
A road win, finally. Horrendous foul shooting, but they are putting it together, certainly better than the last two games. Respectfully disagree. I'm going to be blunt....
I wasn't expecting 14-4 by now but really surprised there hasn't been more carry-over from the end of last year.
MA has been ok but it's apparent he's reached his ceiling. If his ceiling is 14 ppg, 5.6 rpg, and a 39% 3PT shooter, I think that's pretty good, don't you?
Charles hasn't improved and has been wildly inconsistent game to game. Disagree. I actually think Charles is our best player. If anything, he needs to be more assertive. His 3PT shooting has drastically improved since his freshman season, and he is the team's best passer. He has 64 assists, the next in the clubhouse are Benzan and Ant with 37 apiece. His propensity to foul is a cause of concern, and this is an area he needs to remedy.
Husek ? Hard to grasp how a 6'11" 240lb. returning Senior starter can't be more effective....AT LEAST in rebounding....versus much smaller opponents. It's in part due to the offense, and that he's camped out on the perimeter for much of it. No player on this team has come a longer way than Husek. I remember thinking when he was a sophomore that getting any meaningful minutes from him in his career would be gravy. He's shooting 46% from 3PT.
Champion....this was the kid I thought - based on last post-season - was really going to emerge into a clear go-to leader. Great swing-man size, great on court brain and a knack for clutch plays. But, though not as bad as Charles, he has been a disappointment with inconsistent play and poor shouting. This is fair. Champion has been disappointing in my mind -- extremely hot and cold, not hitting free throws. He is who he is: a streaky shooter.
In general, the team doesn't look markedly better at this point than last year but neither does the PL. We are much more active on defense and creating more turnovers. What's very concerning is our interior defense -- opponents are continually shooting better than 50% on 2PT shots. This has to improve.
I disagree with much of what you write.
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Post by Tom on Jan 6, 2017 12:51:17 GMT -5
A road win, finally. Horrendous foul shooting, but they are putting it together, certainly better than the last two games. Respectfully disagree. I'm going to be blunt....
I wasn't expecting 14-4 by now but really surprised there hasn't been more carry-over from the end of last year.
MA has been ok but it's apparent he's reached his ceiling. Charles hasn't improved and has been wildly inconsistent game to game. Husek ? Hard to grasp how a 6'11" 240lb. returning Senior starter can't be more effective....AT LEAST in rebounding....versus much smaller opponents. Champion....this was the kid I thought - based on last post-season - was really going to emerge into a clear go-to leader. Great swing-man size, great on court brain and a knack for clutch plays. But, though not as bad as Charles, he has been a disappointment with inconsistent play and poor shouting.
In general, the team doesn't look markedly better at this point than last year but neither does the PL. What gives with Lehigh ? Will we again go on a late season run ?
One metric could be that last season, HC wasn't even competitive in most of their PL regular season road games. In our small sample of two thus far, HC has been competitive in both. That's a step forward. I've had the opportunity to see the team in person a lot this season. Totally subjective, but this year's edition looks better on D than last year. Until Green was put at the bottom of the zone, last year's squad had stretches where they couldn't stop anyone. By the strength of the turnovers, this team is getting more stops. Subjective, I know, but a step forward
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Post by sarasota on Jan 6, 2017 13:17:28 GMT -5
Biggest change in the offense scheme is that players are posting up low. That's not pure PO, but maybe it's an improvement. Hoops, comment?
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Post by lou on Jan 6, 2017 13:29:39 GMT -5
Biggest change in the offense scheme is that players are posting up low. That's not pure PO, but maybe it's an improvement. Hoops, comment? Highlighted more than once by the broadcast team in the championship game last season, Champion from the right side, and EG a dagger from the left side right after a big LU basket
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 6, 2017 13:41:33 GMT -5
A road win, finally. Horrendous foul shooting, but they are putting it together, certainly better than the last two games. Respectfully disagree. I'm going to be blunt....
I wasn't expecting 14-4 by now but really surprised there hasn't been more carry-over from the end of last year.
HC has played 16 games, so I could have guaranteed we would not be 14-4 at this point. How did you think we would get two extra wins for games not scheduled?
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 6, 2017 13:41:40 GMT -5
SOV--- Great recap--very, very well done.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Jan 6, 2017 13:46:57 GMT -5
Respectfully disagree. I'm going to be blunt....
I wasn't expecting 14-4 by now but really surprised there hasn't been more carry-over from the end of last year.
MA has been ok but it's apparent he's reached his ceiling. If his ceiling is 14 ppg, 5.6 rpg, and a 39% 3PT shooter, I think that's pretty good, don't you?
Charles hasn't improved and has been wildly inconsistent game to game. Disagree. I actually think Charles is our best player. If anything, he needs to be more assertive. His 3PT shooting has drastically improved since his freshman season, and he is the team's best passer. He has 64 assists, the next in the clubhouse are Benzan and Ant with 37 apiece. His propensity to foul is a cause of concern, and this is an area he needs to remedy.
Husek ? Hard to grasp how a 6'11" 240lb. returning Senior starter can't be more effective....AT LEAST in rebounding....versus much smaller opponents. It's in part due to the offense, and that he's camped out on the perimeter for much of it. No player on this team has come a longer way than Husek. I remember thinking when he was a sophomore that getting any meaningful minutes from him in his career would be gravy. He's shooting 46% from 3PT.
Champion....this was the kid I thought - based on last post-season - was really going to emerge into a clear go-to leader. Great swing-man size, great on court brain and a knack for clutch plays. But, though not as bad as Charles, he has been a disappointment with inconsistent play and poor shouting. This is fair. Champion has been disappointing in my mind -- extremely hot and cold, not hitting free throws. He is who he is: a streaky shooter.
In general, the team doesn't look markedly better at this point than last year but neither does the PL. We are much more active on defense and creating more turnovers. What's very concerning is our interior defense -- opponents are continually shooting better than 50% on 2PT shots. This has to improve.
I disagree with much of what you write. While I think the Torey Thomas comparisons (or whatever you want to call them) are absolutely laughable, and I'm still a little unsure of whether or not he has a true position, isn't Benzan the one who has come along the most by a pretty good margin? Can you name a successful team with a Center that is averaging 2.4 rebounds and 1.1 2FGs per game, and combining that with only 9 blocks in 16 games (i.e. not some type of defensive force that can't score)? No offense to Husek, and regardless of where he was as a frosh or soph or junior, having a Center that isn't productive inside the 3 point line is not good.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jan 6, 2017 13:54:36 GMT -5
Announced attendance for home games on Jan 2, a holiday.
HC game 1346 BostonU game 484 Bucknell game 1737
The only one with an 'honest' number appears to be Boston U,
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 6, 2017 14:09:50 GMT -5
Last year we were outscored by 5.1 points per game over the full season. This year we have been outscored by 2.3 points per game; and if you take out the first two games when we were so badly overmatched (outscored 171-95 by SC and SYR) we are outscoring our opponents by 2.8 points per game.
I'll suggest that the offense is somewhat improved, but should be doing better (missed bunnies and free throws) while the defense is greatly improved, even without Eric Green on the team. If you believe in any of the Ken Pomeroy analysis (points per possession) you'll see strong proof.
One encouraging measurement is turnovers. We did a good job last year and were +64 in turnovers (386 for HC, 450 for opponents) in 35 games. This year to date we are + 78 in 16 games. So, from that we got two extra possessions a game last year but 5 per game this year. We are #4 in the country in turnover percentage. We may have five guys tie for the team lead with 50 steals at the end of the season. We've never had that many players getting 1+ per game as far as I can tell.
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Post by ncaam on Jan 6, 2017 14:30:57 GMT -5
Coach said we were not a good offensive team last year and are not one so far this year. Navy post mortem
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Post by sarasota on Jan 6, 2017 14:53:41 GMT -5
The addition of the low postups by the wings is an improvement in the scheme. But I would say we have given up on the PO. We don't run it. Almost not serious cut attempts. So what we're left with is incessant weaving ending in 3 pt heaves. Very boring and dangerous scheme in that if our 3's aren't falling we have nothing to go to.
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Post by lou on Jan 6, 2017 15:03:36 GMT -5
The addition of the low postups by the wings is an improvement in the scheme. But I would say we have given up on the PO. We don't run it. Almost not serious cut attempts. So what we're left with is incessant weaving ending in 3 pt heaves. Very boring and dangerous scheme in that if our 3's aren't falling we have nothing to go to. Carmody also said postgame that he doesn't like the constant weaving around the perimenter until the end of the shot clock. Apparently he has some other strategy in mind
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Post by sarasota on Jan 6, 2017 16:29:37 GMT -5
If he doesn't like it, why doesn't he put a stop to it? Am I missing something?
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