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Post by drjack on Dec 24, 2023 10:56:56 GMT -5
Yup, our class is basically entirely built by the previous staff, but good sign they at least kept the class largely together.
And really, I don't know the specifics of it, but major respect to Coaches James and Barnes for sticking it out through the last OV weekend.
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Post by hc6774 on Dec 24, 2023 11:21:31 GMT -5
Recruiting rankings, especially at the FCS level, are always kind of a crapshoot, but nice recognition for the class so far. Other PL NLI early signing numbers G'Town 9 Fordham - 10 Lafayette - 12 Bucknell - 16 Lehigh - 17 Colgate - 24
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 24, 2023 12:07:47 GMT -5
Nice to see that Top 5 ranking above
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Post by midwestsader05 on Dec 24, 2023 14:10:19 GMT -5
Coach Gunnell (recruits MI) looks to be recruiting a DE from Detroit Central Catholic that did not sign with anyone last week. Hopefully we can get him on campus in January. Good looking edge player. Could be Stone Chaney. 6’5”, 215 lbs. 64 tackles, 16 TFL, 9 sacks, 7 pass break-ups, 1 int. and one fumble recovery. Offer from Toledo. Coach says “He’s a tremendous athlete and competitor with a high motor. He has an unbelievable bend and quickness on the pass rush. Stone has NFL talent with the right development and continuous work ethic.” Yes that’s him. Lists himself at 6’4 225. I’d say at Most he’s 215 right now. His Senior tape is impressive as he looks physically like a late bloomer to me. He could be in the running with a few other DEs. If Harry is right and we still have 2 DEs to sign in the second period, there are two others from Maryland and one from FL that I believe are currently in the mix. Will need the new DL coach to do an assessment for what types of traits they want and how to allocate $$.
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Post by dharry13 on Jan 5, 2024 16:04:54 GMT -5
Another thing to consider is if there are any portal signings the kids would most likely be on campus next week to visit the school and coaches.
Friday, January 12th is the first day of "live period" where coaches can make in home visits or visits at school. Coaches will be flying to various states on Friday January 12th - I do know this to be true. Again they have 12-16 slots to fill - still depending on a few things so my guess is they will be on the road for a week or so.
If they were to take any portal kids we would most likely know by the end of next week - most likely over the weekend (1/12-1/13). Students go back to school on Jan. 22nd, so any portal kids would have to be enrolled, at school, dorms situated, etc. Therefore IMO decisions would have to be made by the end of next week. Biggest possibility IMO would be OT - but could be another 1 or 2, if any at all.
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Post by hcnj on Jan 8, 2024 22:58:43 GMT -5
Another thing to consider is if there are any portal signings the kids would most likely be on campus next week to visit the school and coaches. Friday, January 12th is the first day of "live period" where coaches can make in home visits or visits at school. Coaches will be flying to various states on Friday January 12th - I do know this to be true. Again they have 12-16 slots to fill - still depending on a few things so my guess is they will be on the road for a week or so. If they were to take any portal kids we would most likely know by the end of next week - most likely over the weekend (1/12-1/13). Students go back to school on Jan. 22nd, so any portal kids would have to be enrolled, at school, dorms situated, etc. Therefore IMO decisions would have to be made by the end of next week. Biggest possibility IMO would be OT - but could be another 1 or 2, if any at all. Harry, regarding OL: do you think we're more focused on wrapping up a recruit(s) that are carryover targets like Miles or rather portal xfers? Other than the converted TE to OT from Pa, we seem to have some heavy lifting left. Also, with the core OL guys getting all the minutes last season it's difficult for the average follower to know who will compete from this season's frosh class + Metzger? Any insights would be appreciated.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Jan 9, 2024 0:22:04 GMT -5
I’ll defer to Harry on the recruiting question but OL 2-deep heading into Spring as of today is likely as folllows: 1 OTs - Declan Mac & Cam McNair 2 OTs - Brad Blattner and Noah Eldridge OR Colin Beesley 1 OGs - Dalton Daddona and Cam Nolan 2 OGs - Joe Metzger & Sean Woods 1 C - Christo Kelly 2 C - Will Janis
Wildcards - Does Caron McNair move to OL? Do we bring in a mid year Transfer?
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Post by dharry13 on Jan 9, 2024 8:15:44 GMT -5
Another thing to consider is if there are any portal signings the kids would most likely be on campus next week to visit the school and coaches. Friday, January 12th is the first day of "live period" where coaches can make in home visits or visits at school. Coaches will be flying to various states on Friday January 12th - I do know this to be true. Again they have 12-16 slots to fill - still depending on a few things so my guess is they will be on the road for a week or so. If they were to take any portal kids we would most likely know by the end of next week - most likely over the weekend (1/12-1/13). Students go back to school on Jan. 22nd, so any portal kids would have to be enrolled, at school, dorms situated, etc. Therefore IMO decisions would have to be made by the end of next week. Biggest possibility IMO would be OT - but could be another 1 or 2, if any at all. Harry, regarding OL: do you think we're more focused on wrapping up a recruit(s) that are carryover targets like Miles or rather portal xfers? Other than the converted TE to OT from Pa, we seem to have some heavy lifting left. Also, with the core OL guys getting all the minutes last season it's difficult for the average follower to know who will compete from this season's frosh class + Metzger? Any insights would be appreciated. I do not think they are focused on wrapping up a previously committed OL. I think they have changed course from that. I think they could be looking at possibly a portal OT, but not 100% sure. If that doesn't work out I think they have created their own board. Regarding positions left - I personally think they have 2 OL positions to fill. Don't forget they signed Booker on signing day - flipped him from Elon to HC. My guess is an Interior OL and an OT - question is on the Tackle - does it come from the portal or not. It wouldn't shock me to also see a PWO type as a 5th OL in this class. But for sure I think they will be looking to get 2.
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Post by hc17 on Jan 9, 2024 9:22:55 GMT -5
I’ll defer to Harry on the recruiting question but OL 2-deep heading into Spring as of today is likely as folllows: 1 OTs - Declan Mac & Cam McNair 2 OTs - Brad Blattner and Noah Eldridge OR Colin Beesley 1 OGs - Dalton Daddona and Cam Nolan 2 OGs - Joe Metzger & Sean Woods 1 C - Christo Kelly 2 C - Will Janis Wildcards - Does Caron McNair move to OL? Do we bring in a mid year Transfer? How confident are we in these guys stepping into new roles for the upcoming season? Turnover is inevitable, but do we feel the talent is there on the OL?
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Post by dharry13 on Jan 9, 2024 9:36:21 GMT -5
I think there are good players in this group. The issue for them is that they are going to be compared to Newman, McMurtie, Schon, CJ. Which was a top 5 OL in the country in FCS. So it's unfair in that regard. But then again - life is unfair in many respects. They are going to have to work their tails off in the offseason to earn each of those spots, but I've heard nothing but good things about the new OL coach. Christo was clearly the starter last year. Mcnair and Declan have had some reps, but not a ton. Big offseason for this group as it's been the identity - IMO - of the team the past 2 seasons. I get the headliners of Sluka and Coker, but to me this was the best position room on the team.
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Post by hcnj on Jan 9, 2024 20:04:04 GMT -5
Harry, regarding OL: do you think we're more focused on wrapping up a recruit(s) that are carryover targets like Miles or rather portal xfers? Other than the converted TE to OT from Pa, we seem to have some heavy lifting left. Also, with the core OL guys getting all the minutes last season it's difficult for the average follower to know who will compete from this season's frosh class + Metzger? Any insights would be appreciated. I do not think they are focused on wrapping up a previously committed OL. I think they have changed course from that. I think they could be looking at possibly a portal OT, but not 100% sure. If that doesn't work out I think they have created their own board. Regarding positions left - I personally think they have 2 OL positions to fill. Don't forget they signed Booker on signing day - flipped him from Elon to HC. My guess is an Interior OL and an OT - question is on the Tackle - does it come from the portal or not. It wouldn't shock me to also see a PWO type as a 5th OL in this class. But for sure I think they will be looking to get 2. thank you Harry and 05, great summary. And yes, I did forget Ashton Booker because I have no memory of him on our recruitment or our 2024 commitment threads. I checked his X posting and saw Morgan State, Georgetown, Merrimack offers but no mention of his HC or Elon offer but has pinned his HC commitment on signing day. He looks McNair huge if he's not using the elongator. Any other recruiting highlights you know about?
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Post by dharry13 on Jan 9, 2024 21:34:41 GMT -5
There are guys Midwest and I are tracking this period but still too early to tell. Signing day 4 weeks from tomorrow. With approx 14 players to get it’s a big 4 weeks for the future
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Post by hcnj on Jan 10, 2024 14:38:00 GMT -5
There are guys Midwest and I are tracking this period but still too early to tell. Signing day 4 weeks from tomorrow. With approx 14 players to get it’s a big 4 weeks for the future no, sorry, I meant only about Ashton Booker since there's not much out there that I saw.
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Post by hc69 on Jan 10, 2024 17:07:43 GMT -5
I’ll defer to Harry on the recruiting question but OL 2-deep heading into Spring as of today is likely as folllows: 1 OTs - Declan Mac & Cam McNair 2 OTs - Brad Blattner and Noah Eldridge OR Colin Beesley 1 OGs - Dalton Daddona and Cam Nolan 2 OGs - Joe Metzger & Sean Woods 1 C - Christo Kelly 2 C - Will Janis Wildcards - Does Caron McNair move to OL? Do we bring in a mid year Transfer? How confident are we in these guys stepping into new roles for the upcoming season? Turnover is inevitable, but do we feel the talent is there on the OL? I'll leave the talent question to those in the know, like midwest and Harry. But O-line is the toughest unit to replace. There's a reason why the starting O-line plays almost every snap that matters. It's not a question of talent. To get good the O-line needs to play together as a unit for several games. With D-line, seven or eight guys might rotate in from day one. Not O-line. It will take a while for the O-line to gel and there will be bumps along the road.
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Post by hcnj on Jan 17, 2024 14:01:11 GMT -5
I believe their needs will be as follows for the second signing period - these could come via portal or High School signings. In other words a LOT of work to do in 7 weeks, which is really 5 weeks because of XMAS and New Years: 1 QB 1 WR 1 TE 1 or 3 OL 1 LB 2 Safeties 2 CB 1 P/K 3 DEs For those of you who's interest is recruiting please hold me to the above to see how I ended up doing by February 7th - the player part, not the scholly part because ultimately we won't have any idea how the money breaks down, player by player. Assuming this to be fairly accurate at posting I haven't seen too many new postings of offers or especially visits. With Sluka's departure, Joe P a rising senior and Carson Rauner reclassifying to '25 does anyone know if we'll go after a higher level QB in this class? I'm guess Rauner would have been in that category had he not reclassed. Other than Joe P no one has taken a snap on the roster.
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Post by drjack on Jan 17, 2024 14:08:55 GMT -5
What's the scoop on Jenkins and Frattura? Do either have a shot at being a starting QB for us?
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Post by midwestsader05 on Jan 17, 2024 16:09:10 GMT -5
What's the scoop on Jenkins and Frattura? Do either have a shot at being a starting QB for us? Frattura was recruited to be a starter before his career is over. It’s likely Joey P’s show in 2024. Although having a capable number 2 is paramount as we saw this year. It very well can save or break a season.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Jan 17, 2024 16:13:49 GMT -5
I believe their needs will be as follows for the second signing period - these could come via portal or High School signings. In other words a LOT of work to do in 7 weeks, which is really 5 weeks because of XMAS and New Years: 1 QB 1 WR 1 TE 1 or 3 OL 1 LB 2 Safeties 2 CB 1 P/K 3 DEs For those of you who's interest is recruiting please hold me to the above to see how I ended up doing by February 7th - the player part, not the scholly part because ultimately we won't have any idea how the money breaks down, player by player. Assuming this to be fairly accurate at posting I haven't seen too many new postings of offers or especially visits. With Sluka's departure, Joe P a rising senior and Carson Rauner reclassifying to '25 does anyone know if we'll go after a higher level QB in this class? I'm guess Rauner would have been in that category had he not reclassed. Other than Joe P no one has taken a snap on the roster. We are going after a big time QB here in the second period (highly recruited and high accolades) High school not portal. Also, I think DHarry’s board here is still spot on. I might just clarify I think it’s 2 DEs (speed edge guys) plus one future DT. So three DL total.
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Post by hiltonheadcrusader on Jan 17, 2024 16:34:48 GMT -5
Assuming this to be fairly accurate at posting I haven't seen too many new postings of offers or especially visits. With Sluka's departure, Joe P a rising senior and Carson Rauner reclassifying to '25 does anyone know if we'll go after a higher level QB in this class? I'm guess Rauner would have been in that category had he not reclassed. Other than Joe P no one has taken a snap on the roster. We are going after a big time QB here in the second period (highly recruited and high accolades) High school not portal. Also, I think DHarry’s board here is still spot on. I might just clarify I think it’s 2 DEs (speed edge guys) plus one future DT. So three DL total. Forcucci also a prospective starter in the future….?
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Post by football44 on Jan 17, 2024 16:45:41 GMT -5
We are going after a big time QB here in the second period (highly recruited and high accolades) High school not portal. Also, I think DHarry’s board here is still spot on. I might just clarify I think it’s 2 DEs (speed edge guys) plus one future DT. So three DL total. Forcucci also a prospective starter in the future….? Forcucci has left HC. Heading back to Chicago. Great kid done with football.
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Post by newadvisor on Jan 17, 2024 20:33:05 GMT -5
Forcucci also a prospective starter in the future….? Forcucci has left HC. Heading back to Chicago. Great kid done with football. He's a good kid, not sure why he would leave?? Maybe he was on a partial and didn't see much of an opportunity to play. But, he was absolutely the second best QB left on the roster. No other Qb left on the roster saw 1st or 2nd team reps last year at anytime or are prepared to lead this team other than Joe P.....
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Post by inhocsigno on Jan 17, 2024 20:36:23 GMT -5
I liked tape of Jenkins athletically. Not sure how he is progressing at college level.
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Post by dharry13 on Jan 18, 2024 7:17:03 GMT -5
Forcucci has left HC. Heading back to Chicago. Great kid done with football. He's a good kid, not sure why he would leave?? Maybe he was on a partial and didn't see much of an opportunity to play. But, he was absolutely the second best QB left on the roster. No other Qb left on the roster saw 1st or 2nd team reps last year at anytime or are prepared to lead this team other than Joe P..... I think the Frosh Is QB they are recruiting will battle with Frattura and Jenkins. The growth for year 1 to year 2 - particularly at QB is massive.
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Post by hcpride on Jan 18, 2024 7:43:04 GMT -5
Notwithstanding the title if the thread, is there any indication that we will be hitting the portal to bring in transfers this year?
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Post by dharry13 on Jan 18, 2024 8:19:34 GMT -5
I don’t believe any transfers are coming to Holy Cross. Classes start for the students on Monday. First team meeting is Tuesday Jan 23rd.
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