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Post by hchoops on Apr 11, 2024 16:54:25 GMT -5
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Apr 11, 2024 17:37:13 GMT -5
No
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Post by efg72 on Apr 11, 2024 17:39:19 GMT -5
Likely under realignment
Why wouldn't this be item 1 or 2 for the power schools
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Apr 11, 2024 17:44:19 GMT -5
Only a matter of time. FCS for basketball is coming.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Apr 11, 2024 18:10:28 GMT -5
Won't happen. The NCAA takes in $1 billion in revenue from the post-season tournaments; some of this revenue is then distributed to the member schools. For example, HC receives money from the NCAA for fielding x number of sports. Division I FBS is split into autonomy schools, and non-autonomy schools. The autonomy schools control the major bowls, and the playoffs. They receive all the revenue from such, and don't share. The NCAA Division I revenue distribution to member schools for 2023 can be found here: ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/ncaa/finance/d1/2023D1Fin_RevenueDistributionPlan.pdfpdf file ^^^ |
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Apr 11, 2024 19:06:26 GMT -5
Only a matter of time. FCS for basketball is coming. SAD! |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Apr 11, 2024 21:09:31 GMT -5
They are rushing to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs
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Post by Tom on Apr 12, 2024 7:54:58 GMT -5
I don't think ESPN wants to get rid of the automatic bids. The post season tournaments would become meaningless so that's the end of championship week, This would also affect the majors. With no automatic bid, NC State doesn't dance this year so even that tournament becomes kind of meaningless
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Post by timholycross on Apr 12, 2024 8:01:22 GMT -5
I don't think ESPN wants to get rid of the automatic bids. The post season tournaments would become meaningless so that's the end of championship week, This would also affect the majors. With no automatic bid, NC State doesn't dance this year so even that tournament becomes kind of meaningless I'm thinking there's a better chance they make the tournament a little (4 more or 8 more) larger than junking the current format. |
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Post by Tom on Apr 12, 2024 8:53:37 GMT -5
I don't think ESPN wants to get rid of the automatic bids. The post season tournaments would become meaningless so that's the end of championship week, This would also affect the majors. With no automatic bid, NC State doesn't dance this year so even that tournament becomes kind of meaningless I'm thinking there's a better chance they make the tournament a little (4 more or 8 more) larger than junking the current format. In the immortal words of Liza Minnelli - Money makes the world go around |
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Post by CHC8485 on Apr 12, 2024 9:06:23 GMT -5
Are they really Liza's words or are they Fred Ebb's, the lyricist??  |
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Post by rf1 on Apr 12, 2024 9:17:44 GMT -5
It has already been done in the NIT.
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Post by crusader1970 on Apr 12, 2024 10:23:44 GMT -5
It has already been done in the NIT. True. But frankly no one really cares about the NIT any more. |
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Post by efg72 on Apr 12, 2024 10:50:46 GMT -5
The NIT might become the NCAA tournament for all who are left out of the Super Conference structure- once it comes to basketball
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Post by Tom on Apr 12, 2024 10:54:19 GMT -5
It has already been done in the NIT. No long standing tradition there. The concept of a regular season champion that doesn't win a conference tournament and doesn't get an at large bid getting a free pass to the NIT is fairly new. In 2005, the Crusader NIT bid was not a consolation for a regular season champion who lost. HC sat on pins and needles waiting for the NIT field to be announced because that was not an automatic bid. |
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Post by Tom on Apr 12, 2024 10:56:01 GMT -5
Are they really Liza's words or are they Fred Ebb's, the lyricist?? Just another example that all Crusaders and the class of 1985 in particular are true renaissance men |
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Post by WCHC Sports on Apr 12, 2024 13:40:15 GMT -5
FBS =/= FCS is horrible. IF they did it for basketball, it would be 10x worse.
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 12, 2024 17:24:56 GMT -5
FBS =/= FCS is horrible. IF they did it for basketball, it would be 10x worse. How are you viewing FCS? I prefer HC's opponents, post-season opportunities and budget over the UMass opponents, budget and post-season opportunities in the MAC they sold their soul (leaving A-10 BB) to get. How could Holy Cross spend what UMass, UConn and BC, our three FBS neighbors spend on FB every year? |
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Apr 13, 2024 9:20:28 GMT -5
It has already been done in the NIT. No long standing tradition there. The concept of a regular season champion that doesn't win a conference tournament and doesn't get an at large bid getting a free pass to the NIT is fairly new. In 2005, the Crusader NIT bid was not a consolation for a regular season champion who lost. HC sat on pins and needles waiting for the NIT field to be announced because that was not an automatic bid. The first year that the NIT started doing auto-bids for teams that won their conference regular season was 2006-2007. I actually like the NIT better WITHOUT the auto-bids because it provides more opportunities for high-quality mid-major teams to make runs. For example, Bucknell 06-07 was a team that didn't make the NIT because of this rule and was stronger than some of the low-major auto-bids that got in. I think if the NIT ever went back to 48 teams, then it would be a better tourney with the auto-bids. Why is the Women's NIT tournament 48 but the Men's 32? If schools are willing to participate in the CBI and CIT, tourneys that so few care about that not even ESPN the Ocho will broadcast them, why not an expanded NIT? Another random thought: If schools like Brown and Columbia have been willing to bid to host CIT games, why won't the Ivies send their football teams to the FCS playoffs? Make it make sense!!! |
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Apr 13, 2024 9:23:26 GMT -5
I don't think ESPN wants to get rid of the automatic bids. The post season tournaments would become meaningless so that's the end of championship week, This would also affect the majors. With no automatic bid, NC State doesn't dance this year so even that tournament becomes kind of meaningless I'm thinking there's a better chance they make the tournament a little (4 more or 8 more) larger than junking the current format. Here's my prediction for what they MIGHT try to do: They may go off the CFP model and instead of allowing an auto-bid from every conference, they will have a system where 10 total bids out of the 68 are reserved for low and mid majors. This of course, would make conference tournaments disappear, but instead power schools would just allow for an extension of the regular season and additional home game revenues. This of course would involve an overhaul of NCAA rules, which govern the requirements for conferences to receive an auto-bid as well as the % of auto and at large bids that must be awarded for all championship tournaments. |
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Post by WCHC Sports on Apr 15, 2024 9:03:38 GMT -5
FBS =/= FCS is horrible. IF they did it for basketball, it would be 10x worse. How are you viewing FCS? I prefer HC's opponents, post-season opportunities and budget over the UMass opponents, budget and post-season opportunities in the MAC they sold their soul (leaving A-10 BB) to get. How could Holy Cross spend what UMass, UConn and BC, our three FBS neighbors spend on FB every year? They can't. I know why they did it. But what it did was establish a separate-but-not-equal setup for football, where there are champions, and there are champions and there are also winners of the Tostitos Doritos Fritos Dos Toros Taco Bell Locos Tacos Bowl.
Hockey = National Champion Basketball = National Champion
Football = Well, we have some champions and some winners and some are the "real" big time leagues and some are pocket leagues and some....
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Post by Ray on Apr 15, 2024 16:35:59 GMT -5
I feel like this thread comes around every spring. I'm still not worried.
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Post by efg72 on Apr 15, 2024 16:43:48 GMT -5
Better prepare, but not act
If change takes place and we haven't reinvented ourselves.….
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 15, 2024 16:51:16 GMT -5
If a mid range Natty was established and HC made a run at it against our peer schools, Holy Cross fans would be all over it like every time any HC team has made a run, or even had a great close loss in the national post season.
The question is which way would the better mid major teams and leagues like URI and UMass in the A-10 and MAC go? Would they compete against HC and UVM in the post season or against BC, PC, UConn in the Big Dance?
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Apr 16, 2024 6:45:51 GMT -5
If a mid range Natty was established and HC made a run at it against our peer schools, Holy Cross fans would be all over it like every time any HC team has made a run, or even had a great close loss in the national post season. The question is which way would the better mid major teams and leagues like URI and UMass in the A-10 and MAC go? Would they compete against HC and UVM in the post season or against BC, PC, UConn in the Big Dance? Only way this kind of thing happens is if the power schools break away from the NCAA. So current P4 + the Big East would be in their own league. I don't think this will happen in basketball. 100% about to happen in football. |
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