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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jan 18, 2017 16:12:59 GMT -5
You are guys are missing my point, which I explicitly stated above. The payoff is the branding, marketing, advertising--NOT the actual value of his/her teaching or scholarship. There is a Nobel winner available, and a professor to boot, with actual classroom teaching experience.
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Post by Chu Chu on Jan 18, 2017 16:58:20 GMT -5
You are guys are missing my point, which I explicitly stated above. The payoff is the branding, marketing, advertising--NOT the actual value of his/her teaching or scholarship. There is a Nobel winner available, and a professor to boot, with actual classroom teaching experience. He's not available until Friday afternoon, late. Prior engagement.
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Post by hchoops on Jan 18, 2017 17:02:06 GMT -5
Right up Sarasota's alley, too.
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 18, 2017 18:24:10 GMT -5
Can we get Professor Barak Obama to teach constitutional law at Holy Cross? Didn't he win an international award of some kind early in his presidency? That would get us a lot of publicity on the hill!!! And I heard in one of his recent interviews that he would love to go back and teach again!!!
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Post by matunuck on Jan 20, 2017 8:52:11 GMT -5
Sota, your concern about the academic direction/quality of HC is not without merit. In some ways, HC has become more about pushing intellectual conformity than true intellectual debate unfortunately. And, the reason has nothing to do with our Jesuit heritage, which, ironically, should foster rigorous debate, not stifle it. Our "for others" mantra is great but often it just provides convenient cover to advance an agenda that leans in one direction. It's not healthy for the college long term. I know others will disagree, which is why our board is so refreshing.
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 20, 2017 9:02:57 GMT -5
I can remember "back in the day" there were college Conservative clubs (one had Goldwater's daughter come to speak to the students in Kimball when her dad was running against LBJ in the 1960s) and several clubs that advanced various agendas that would be labeled "liberal" today. Debates were often spirited, but I can't remember anyone ever suggesting that there should be less diversity of opinion. If a school or faculty become "one" in beliefs, I find it stifles intellectual growth. I hope Jesuit tradition wins out in the long run...both in intellectual and spiritual concerns.
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Post by rickii on Jan 20, 2017 13:31:13 GMT -5
1970 -
Sarcasm noted....
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Post by beaven302 on Jan 21, 2017 13:31:54 GMT -5
I can remember "back in the day" there were college Conservative clubs (one had Goldwater's daughter come to speak to the students in Kimball hen her dad was running against LBJ in the 1960s) and several clubs that advanced various agendas that would be labeled "liberal" today. Debates were often spirited, but I can't remember anyone ever suggesting that there should be less diversity of opinion. If a school or faculty become "one" in beliefs, I find it stifles intellectual growth. I hope Jesuit tradition wins out in the long run...both in intellectual and spiritual concerns. I recall attending that event. If memory serves, the speaker was Libby Miller, a Newton College of the Sacred Heart student who was the daughter of William Miller, the N.Y. congressman who was Goldwater's running mate. Just outside the Kimball theater, they were giving away cans of "Goldwater" and various Goldwater campaign paraphernalia. One of my roommates was a totally Goldwater-phobic, so to spite him I took a Goldwater bumper sticker, and put it on the dorm room door, where it stayed until the election was over. As for the comments on intellectual growth --- +1.
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 21, 2017 13:41:25 GMT -5
Right you are, Beaven. I still have a can of "Goldwater" but whatever was in it, the can eroded and the liquid spilled out. (They were $1 a can, IIRC). I guess that Goldwater was a forerunner of "Billy Beer."
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 21, 2017 14:05:03 GMT -5
I'm sorry but this whole thread is starting to smack of "politics" and should be deleted! I know, I know. I started it with the suggestion of a certain community organizer coming to Holy Cross to teach but he was a Nobel Prize winner and that was the suggestion.
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Post by hcgrad94 on Jan 21, 2017 15:12:04 GMT -5
Sota, your concern about the academic direction/quality of HC is not without merit. In some ways, HC has become more about pushing intellectual conformity than true intellectual debate unfortunately. And, the reason has nothing to do with our Jesuit heritage, which, ironically, should foster rigorous debate, not stifle it. Our "for others" mantra is great but often it just provides convenient cover to advance an agenda that leans in one direction. It's not healthy for the college long term. I know others will disagree, which is why our board is so refreshing. And you know this how?
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Post by purple71 on Jan 21, 2017 15:12:47 GMT -5
I'm sorry but this whole thread is starting to smack of "politics" and should be deleted! I know, I know. I started it with the suggestion of a certain community organizer coming to Holy Cross to teach but he was a Nobel Prize winner and that was the suggestion. I wouldn't worry too much about a discussion of what occurred on campus more than 50 years ago turning into a banned political discussion.
As an historical, not political, reminiscence does anyone recall the fun poked at Congressman Miller: " I've got a riddle, it's a killer, who the hell is Bill Miller"? I was in high school in '64 but remember the campaign or at least some of it.
And as a further footnote to discussion, does anyone remember the ditty "Rootin', Tootin', Snootin' Newton?
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Post by hchoops on Jan 21, 2017 18:24:09 GMT -5
I am sure those in the class of '67 recall a classmate who has attained some liberal notoriety who was a leader of the conservative James Madison Society.
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 21, 2017 19:36:28 GMT -5
I am sure those in the class of '67 recall a classmate who has attained some liberal notoriety who was a leader of the conservative James Madison Society. Remembering that gave me a tingle up my leg.
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Post by purple71 on Jan 22, 2017 17:12:38 GMT -5
I am sure those in the class of '67 recall a classmate who has attained some liberal notoriety who was a leader of the conservative James Madison Society. I would assume you are referring to Chris Matthews who often references the fact that he started out in life as a Republican.
Without deprecating our conservative brethren, I am surprised that he was still a conservative 2 years prior to his entry into the Peace Corp. I wonder when his change of political views occurred. Certainly before he ran in the Democratic Congressional primary in Pennsylvania in 1974. Do any of his classmates have any insight into when his views changed?
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 22, 2017 17:47:51 GMT -5
Didn't Chris Matthews go to work for Tip O'Neill? Maybe that's what changed him??
I looked on Wikipedia and saw that he has a brother, Jim, also a Holy Cross graduate--listed as a Republican
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 22, 2017 17:57:56 GMT -5
Jim is class of 1970. Believe he also ran for Congress and also lost.
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Post by hchoops on Jan 22, 2017 19:14:09 GMT -5
The Peace Corps changed Chris in many ways, including political affiliation
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jan 22, 2017 21:05:00 GMT -5
Jim is class of 1970. Believe he also ran for Congress and also lost. Jim ran for the Lt. Gov. of PA on a ticket with Lynn Swann in 2006. Ironic that the Patriots are playing the Steelers tonight.
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Post by sarasota on Jan 22, 2017 22:55:54 GMT -5
I recommend Matthews' early book on retail politics and his days with Tip O'Neill, his mentor.
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Post by breezy on Feb 13, 2017 13:40:05 GMT -5
Regarding the fundraising event that takes place tomorrow, February 14 --
I received an e-mail today that includes this additional information:
"A gift during this challenge will help secure important resources for both the College and its athletics programs. If 4,000 donors show their love in 24 hours, a group of alumni will donate $1 million to the College! In addition, if 1,500 of those donors allocate their gift or a portion of their gift to our athletics teams, a group of alumni and parents will donate $150,000 directly to the Crusader Athletics Fund."
Just some additional incentive to make a donation (of whatever size) to the Crusader Athletics Fund tomorrow. Since the targets are based on number of donors, not the amount of the donations, even the donation of $1.00 will help to meet the goal.
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Post by sarasota on Feb 13, 2017 16:15:44 GMT -5
BTW, as a former professor myself, one of the things I LOVE about HC and similar colleges, is that their faculty is focused on every day teaching. I believe HC promotes that fact in their marketing. It cannot be overemphasized.
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Post by JoeHC on Feb 14, 2017 0:33:18 GMT -5
BTW, as a former professor myself, one of the things I LOVE about HC and similar colleges, is that their faculty is focused on every day teaching. I believe HC promotes that fact in their marketing. It cannot be overemphasized. Says the guy who IN THIS VERY THREAD proposed employing -any- Nobel Prize winner because..... So the college should continue to focus on employing faculty who engage and actively participate in their students' education, except for that one big name at the end of the hall?
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Post by JoeHC on Feb 14, 2017 1:23:40 GMT -5
Back on topic, here's the link.Quoting from upthread, last year's goal was 4,300 donors in 43 hours, just under 2 days. Result: 6,226 donors and $1,939,318. This year's goal, 4,000 donors in basically 24 hours, 1 day with $1 million matched if that goal is met. I just made a gift. As of this post, we're at 133 donors (3% of goal) having given $19,300. That averages out to $145/donor (vs. $311 per donor last year).
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Post by sarasota on Feb 14, 2017 1:28:04 GMT -5
joe- Exactly.
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