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Post by hchoops on Jul 24, 2024 10:23:47 GMT -5
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Post by midwestsader05 on Jul 24, 2024 11:56:28 GMT -5
Wow, Robinson as a Soph surprised me. Big expectations for him. Also Jaworski as DPOY a bit of a dark horse. He’s very good (and I actually think better than Conway) but I would have guessed he would have been 3rd in voting.
Lafayette overwhelming favorites to repeat. Only 3 points separating HC at #2 and Fordham at #3. Interesting the Lafayette voters choose Fordham and Colgate as their #1 instead of HC as team reps can’t vote for themselves.
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Post by hcnj on Jul 24, 2024 12:57:37 GMT -5
And incoming frosh class is stacked on D. I’m on record will be a top 20 FCS D in 2025 and 2026 if they stay together and healthy. do you mean already or hoping to fill 2-3 more level 1 spots like DB, DE, DL? If you mean "already" this could really be quite a recruiting class if those openings close favorably. Thanks for sharing your projections, always helps to have a solid starting point going into camp.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Jul 24, 2024 13:06:28 GMT -5
And incoming frosh class is stacked on D. I’m on record will be a top 20 FCS D in 2025 and 2026 if they stay together and healthy. do you mean already or hoping to fill 2-3 more level 1 spots like DB, DE, DL? If you mean "already" this could really be quite a recruiting class if those openings close favorably. Thanks for sharing your projections, always helps to have a solid starting point going into camp. I mean the incoming freshman this fall who I didn’t list on the two deep since they would have to win battles in camp. Prichard-Sewell, Croley, Gardner, Coleman etc.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Jul 25, 2024 14:31:04 GMT -5
Phil Steele Preseason All PL teams - philsteele.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/2024-Patriot.pdfSaders listed: SR Jordan Fuller - 1st team RB SR Justin Shorter - 1st team KR / 3rd team WR 5TH Christo Kelly - 2nd team OL SOPH Will Robinson - 2nd team DL SR Frankie Monte - 2nd team LB SOPH Brice Stevenson - 3rd team DL SR Curtis Harris-Lopez - 3rd team DB
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Post by purplehaze on Jul 25, 2024 18:54:33 GMT -5
I don't know much about Fordham's depth at QB after Montes, but I do know that Lehigh and Lafayette have very little to show in their QB rooms after their starters. Outbound portal transfers have decimated quality depth for both squads. In Lehigh's case this is the worst year to be facing Army in their opener. Forget the score, if their starter Perri survives that game they will be very happy.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jul 25, 2024 18:55:47 GMT -5
I don't think Lehigh has much to show at QB even with their starter.
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Post by hcpride on Jul 26, 2024 5:53:21 GMT -5
2024 Patriot League Football Preseason Poll 1. Lafayette, 72 (12 first-place votes) 2. Holy Cross, 56 3. Fordham, 53 (1) 4. Colgate, 46 (1) 5. Georgetown, 27 6. Lehigh, 24 7. Bucknell, 16
While the voting is admittedly close (between 2nd and 4th), the 2nd place prediction surprises me as I was thinking a .500-ish season is in the cards (with at least a couple of PL losses). If we stay healthy at key positions.
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Post by hc6774 on Jul 26, 2024 6:02:56 GMT -5
Pre-season 3 deep All PL picks, understandable, no JoeP
Which of Matt's '23 passing stats could he match or exceed? 122 completes / 197 attempts / 5 ints / 20 tds
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Post by hcpride on Jul 26, 2024 6:58:04 GMT -5
Pre-season 3 deep All PL picks, understandable, no JoeP Which of Matt's '23 passing stats could he match or exceed? 122 completes / 197 attempts / 5 ints / 20 tds I think there is a hope senior Joe P can be at least an average starting PL QB in terms of arm strength/accuracy and footspeed/escapability. Coach Curran has repeatedly complimented his leadership and the fact the rest of the team really respects him.
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 26, 2024 7:21:50 GMT -5
Leadership can, at times, be more important than arm strength or physical ability.
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Post by hc6774 on Jul 26, 2024 8:21:13 GMT -5
Pre-season 3 deep All PL picks, understandable, no JoeP Which of Matt's '23 passing stats could he match or exceed? 122 completes / 197 attempts / 5 ints / 20 tds I think there is a hope senior Joe P can be at least an average starting PL QB in terms of arm strength/accuracy and footspeed/escapability. Coach Curran has repeatedly complimented his leadership and the fact the rest of the team really respects him. Sluka factor, we were 65% rush attempts last season; designed QB power runs + pass plays that turned into runs rather than throw aways. We should be close to 50/50 this season?
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jul 26, 2024 8:35:39 GMT -5
2024 Patriot League Football Preseason Poll 1. Lafayette, 72 (12 first-place votes) 2. Holy Cross, 56 3. Fordham, 53 (1) 4. Colgate, 46 (1) 5. Georgetown, 27 6. Lehigh, 24 7. Bucknell, 16 While the voting is admittedly close (between 2nd and 4th), the 2nd place prediction surprises me as I was thinking a .500-ish season is in the cards (with at least a couple of PL losses). If we stay healthy at key positions. Honestly, a sixth straight PLC wouldn't surprise me. Yeah, Lafayette beat us on our home turf last year and we lost more than they did...but they're not world beaters. Lost to Colgate at home, didn't exactly spank Georgetown (35-25), snuck by Fordham. There's still a lot of talent on this team. I think having a chip on their shoulder heading into the season will only help. The dark horse is Colgate, IMO. After Stan Dakosty wrote that letter on Sept 25 (two days after we obliterated them, 47-7), they finished the year 6-1.
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Post by alum on Jul 26, 2024 9:02:50 GMT -5
I think that all of these teams will lose a game or two they thought they had in the bag. While I wouldn't say that is more likely than not, I wouldn't be shocked to see our guys go 4-2 which might well tie for the PL title although I would guess we would lose the head to head tiebreaker.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 26, 2024 9:07:57 GMT -5
Leadership can, at times, be more important than arm strength or physical ability. So glad we hired an experienced head coach and had a clear succession plan for #1 QB. A first time head coach or new phenom QB recruit figuring out how to lead through trial and error would be quite challenging after Chesney and Sluka.
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Post by hcnj on Jul 26, 2024 11:06:02 GMT -5
I think we'll be as good as our offensive line turns out to be. If the mostly new starters aren't ready we'll struggle against good teams, if they're ready we'll do very well. Defense may be young and lacking obvious star power but they were better late with a slew of newcomers.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jul 26, 2024 20:26:40 GMT -5
Interesting thread on X by Chris Grautski —
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Post by lehighowl on Jul 26, 2024 23:41:37 GMT -5
I don't think Lehigh has much to show at QB even with their starter. Lehigh continues to have questions at quarterback and offensive line which is generally a recipe for disaster. The good news is the staff was able to land two of the top QB prospects in PA last year which was an incredible feat. Overall, the recruiting class was very good. However, how many will stick around? How many are simply trying to leverage a downtrodden program at a historic low into immediate playing time so they can have 2-3 years of eligibility somewhere else? Regardless of a recruit's/player's agenda, Cahill and company have to show the ship is headed in the right direction. The head coach, OC, DC dynamic is in itself is a bit weird since Hunt and Nagy were former head coaches. Plus, Hunt was never known as an offensive guru during his time as Colgate's OC/head coach. Lehigh's offense is desperate for development and imagination. Personally, I think Fordham is the most talented team but Lafayette has the best combo of talent and coaching. I simply don't trust Conlin/Fordham in big games/critical situations. As long as Troxell is at Lafayette the Leopards will be a factor. He can coach! Everyone else, including Curran? There's still a lot to prove. Colgate has @ Maine, Villanova, @ Akron, Cornell, @ Penn, Holy Cross to start the year. It would not shock me if Dakosty is penning another letter after a 1-5 start. With that said, outside of Villanova and maybe Akron, those should be winnable games if Colgate is indeed going to elevate from 6-5.
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Post by purplehaze on Jul 27, 2024 8:59:00 GMT -5
Owl seems to think Troxell is the best coach in the league. I’m not convinced - I have to see more than one good season from the ‘Pards to be a believer
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Post by lehighowl on Jul 27, 2024 10:16:25 GMT -5
Owl seems to think Troxell is the best coach in the league. I’m not convinced - I have to see more than one good season from the ‘Pards to be a believer Troxell has been a head coach for 18 years.
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 27, 2024 13:34:21 GMT -5
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Post by midwestsader05 on Jul 27, 2024 13:40:31 GMT -5
If he wins another PL title this year he will be on the short list for the likely opening Temple job or a MAC in 2025 or latest 2026. He’s legit.
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Post by hcnj on Jul 27, 2024 17:27:45 GMT -5
Projected Defensive Two Deep Heading into Training Camp: DE1 SO Will Robinson - DE2 JR Colin Reynolds DT1 SO Brice Stevenson - DT2 SR Damon Danolds DT1 SO Jovan George - DT2 SR Josh Williams DE1 JR Christian Ross - DE/OLB (Edge Rush) 5TH Matt Kane LB1 SR Frankie Monte - LB2 SO Cam Santee (will also play Edge Rush) LB1/2 SO Drew Spinogatti OR JR Sam Boyer CB1 SO Donovan Comestro - CB2 SO Cam Mills SS1 SO Carlo Crocetti - SS2 SO Adam Due FS1 SR Jake Jarmolowich - FS2 SR Jon Wood WS1 SR Curtis Harris-Lopez - WS2 SO Chiz Onwuzurigbo (starting nickel) CB1 SO Eli Thompson - CB2 SO Cam Jones P - wide open P/K - JR Luiz Palenzuela OR SO Daniel Porto Just in terms of what I expect on D; I think the D line is most "settled" with your 2 sophs and Ross who's really a third soph. The guy I'm most hoping gets spotted in is frosh Pritchard-Sewell who who may someday turn into an outstanding penetrator and disrupter. LB for me will be slightly less settled because Monte is really solid but other than Kane (who's listed as an edge DE now) no one has had a chance to play much LB. Frosh Croley is another guy who I hope gets spotted in at LB, he's light for LB but he's another guy who looked like a missile in HS (like Spino). After last season I feel most unsettled about DB, so many injuries, Dcomestro getting thrown into the fire early, and getting some burns, but I thought he played safety not CB probably because of injuries? Eli, Cro, Chiz O'Rigbo, Santee, AD, all played a lot as freshmen and it seems to me there might be a couple of high po frosh plus Cam Jones and Jon W neither of whom we've seen play here (JW-xfer, Cam-youngster). So I have no strong feeling about DB other than Jarmo. DL should be like last year but a year better, LB Monte + ??, DB should be as good as last yr with lots of upside. Just trying to keep the onfield conversation moving along behind the experts. Thanks 05, Harry, 44 etc
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Post by midwestsader05 on Jul 27, 2024 18:12:13 GMT -5
Good perceptive points NJ! I’ll add a couple :
DL - It’s actually FOUR Soph starters with Ross’ medical redshirt and 5 with the top Reserve DL as Colin Reynolds will play a lot and also has 5th year eligibility! FIVE potential Sophomore DL tells me this group should be solid this year but won’t hit their ceiling until 2025/2026!
LB - Spins v Boyer is probably the most intriguing camp battle to me. I think both will see run regardless but someone will emerge (similar to Monte v. Bolden heading into camp last fall as Frankie eventually won that battle) Kane is still technically a LB but he doesn’t play inside in the 4-2. He’s been strictly a specialty OLB rusher in nickel packages, which is why I have him listed on the edge.
DB - you mentioned Jarmo as the only sure thing but I’m sure you just forgot Curtis Harris-Lopez has the most experience of any of the returning defensive backs. He should contend for All-PL this year. I think our three safety spots all have a legit two-deep and feel really good about them heading into camp.
Again, my biggest question is how the corner positions shake out.
You are correct that Comestro “DC” can play both free safety or corner and had to move to FS last year after Jarmo went down in the Yale game and Jon Wood had already been injured before the season started.
Eli “ET” got a lot of good reps as a freshman but as happens often when frosh have to play, hurt his shoulder trying to make a tackle at the 2nd level in the Lafayette game.
That’s why I have those 2 starting as of now. Cam Jones is going to be really interesting to watch because he was more of an “athlete” in high school playing running back, returner and some corner. He needed at least a full year to develop technically and IQ wise.
The frosh CB I’m most interested in pushing the current two deep is Amari Gardner. Really loved his game coming out of Archbishop Curley in MD. Probably only ~170 pounds right now but he brings it all when he tackles, has very good hips and ball skills as well.
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Post by hcnj on Jul 27, 2024 21:13:32 GMT -5
Absolutely forgot Harris-Lopez, talented safety. The non-player related "new" factor is the point Harry or you made about Curran favoring playmaking and more aggressive defenses vs Chesney and staff who I thought leaned to super conservative contain but don't give up big play approach, especially DBs, especially safeties.
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