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Post by unhfan on Jun 18, 2017 21:26:21 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on Jun 18, 2017 21:51:34 GMT -5
Thanks, unhfan
A bit surprising that the PL is ranked ahead of the Ivies.
I guess the highest HC could be in the PL would be fourth, according to this.
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Post by deep Purple on Jun 18, 2017 22:12:25 GMT -5
I thought the PL had seven teams.
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Post by rgs318 on Jun 19, 2017 8:23:11 GMT -5
I am still looking for any role for HC in the PL ranking. Perhaps the 2017 season will mark the beginning of that turn-around.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jun 19, 2017 19:57:40 GMT -5
Thanks, unhfan A bit surprising that the PL is ranked ahead of the Ivies. I guess the highest HC could be in the PL would be fourth, according to this. The Ivy League, in particular its top teams, tend to be a bit underrated by those that deeply follow FCS football. And to be fair, the Ivies don't particularly do anything to "prove themselves" by playing anyone outside the PL or their traditional longtime rivals. Harvard is a great program but they maintain the likes of Rhode Island and San Diego on the schedule when they could be getting the likes of UNH and William & Mary on there.
To many diehard fans of North Dakota Sate, Jacksonville State and Montana, the Ivies might as well be on par with the Pioneer League. These people legitimately think that Harvard or Penn would lose 56-0 in the playoffs if their conference let them in. The FCS pundits at least afford a shred of respect to the PL for sending our auto-qualifier to the NCAA Playoffs. Go on AGS.com and see how many fans completely leave the Ivy League out of their Top 25 rankings each week, even when Harvard and Dartmouth were ranked 5th and 6th in the Sagarins a couple years back (the same rating system these guys use to beat their chests to the fact that their schools are rated higher than teams in the Sun Belch and Conference USA). And not to knock these fans - these guys know FCS football in and out - but because they never see the Ivies play any of the power programs at our level, they don't understand that there's a difference in quality between Harvard-Yale and Williams-Amherst.
Take a look at NFL training camp rosters and you'll see the Ivies as well represented as any FCS conference but you have to remember that in North Dakota, the Bison are the equivalent to what the New England Patriots are here. And because the Ivies don't participate in the same postseason format as the beloved Bison, the quality of football is viewed as far inferior to what it really is.
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Post by hcpride on Jun 20, 2017 11:49:46 GMT -5
This recent article may suggest one reason why the PL is not particularly respected nationwide:
"CENTER VALLEY, Pa. – Bucknell offensive tackle Julie’n Davenport was selected in the fourth-round, 130th overall by the Houston Texans on Saturday during the 2017 NFL Draft in Philadelphia, Pa. Davenport is the first Patriot League student-athlete selected since 2011 and the first Bucknell player drafted since 1969."
I do agree the Ivy League is often underrated - although those that rank incoming FCS recruiting classes ordinarily acknowledge the very high quality of some of their recruits.
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Post by purplehaze on Jun 20, 2017 15:30:45 GMT -5
the ivies have always sent many more to the NFL and have consistently out-recruited the PL. Take a look at this attachment. Ivies have 5 of the top 30 fcs classes this year (and 2 of the top 5). They pour $ into all sorts of athletic recruiting across the board herosports.com/news/fcs-recruiting-top-50-recruiting-classes-2017 |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jun 20, 2017 15:38:25 GMT -5
Among 33 D-1 conferences (Sagarin now breaks out such entities as ACC, Big Ten, and SEC into East & West) here is how IVY and PL have ranked
2013 PL= 27th Ivy= 23rd
2014 PL=27th Ivy= 29th
2015 PL=28th Ivy=25th
2016 PL= 27th Ivy= 29th
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