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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 21, 2017 7:53:08 GMT -5
At the recent reunion weekend, at the meeting with ADNP in the Bud Ryan room, I have heard that men's lacrosse coach Lattimore said that his budget has increased threefold in his short time at Holy Cross.
HC men's lacrosse spending.
2013-14 $370K
14-15 $497K
15-16 $631K
16-17 ?
17-18 ?
If 2014-15 is the reference year for Lattimore's first year, that would mean the budget for the current year 17-18 is $1.5 million. (I am pretty sure 16-17 budget was not $1.5 million.)
If the reference year is 2013-14, then the 17-18 budget would be $1.2 million, which seems more likely.
^^^ This assumes that Lattimore was heard correctly, and that the increase does not come with an asterisk. (An asterisk meaning a component of the budget increased threefold, not the whole budget.)
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Post by sarasota on Jul 21, 2017 19:20:02 GMT -5
For a lot of reason, we should emphasize LAX.
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Post by hc87 on Jul 21, 2017 23:58:56 GMT -5
LAX is the Spring sport going forward.....baseball is dying on the vine at the collegiate level in the Northeast
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Jul 22, 2017 8:47:28 GMT -5
The broken record is back on the turntable...
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 22, 2017 8:58:30 GMT -5
Well, baseball is defending PL baseball champion and is, IMHO, more likely than LAX to be the next of the two to get the next Spring PL championship, so I am not sure about that 87. I like lax, and it rapidly growing the high school level, but I believe it is still not considered the "spring sport" even at that level. (OK, except for some elite prep schools.)  |
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Post by bison137 on Jul 22, 2017 9:26:48 GMT -5
Well, baseball is defending PL baseball champion and is, IMHO, more likely than LAX to be the next of the two to get the next Spring PL championship, so I am not sure about that 87. I like lax, and it rapidly growing the high school level, but I believe it is still not considered the "spring sport" even at that level. (OK, except for some elite prep schools.) I think it goes beyond some elite prep schools. For example, in Southwestern CT, much of Maryland, most of Long Island and Westchester, much of the Philly metro area, and parts of NJ, lacrosse has passed baseball in terms of general interest. |
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Post by hchoops on Jul 22, 2017 9:47:43 GMT -5
Well, baseball is defending PL baseball champion and is, IMHO, more likely than LAX to be the next of the two to get the next Spring PL championship, so I am not sure about that 87. I like lax, and it rapidly growing the high school level, but I believe it is still not considered the "spring sport" even at that level. (OK, except for some elite prep schools.) I think it goes beyond some elite prep schools. For example, in Southwestern CT, much of Maryland, most of Long Island and Westchester, much of the Philly metro area, and parts of NJ, lacrosse has passed baseball in terms of general interest. Lax is certainly very big on Long Island, but I would not agree that it has passed baseball in general interest. The loyalty to the Mets and the Yankees assures this. |
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Jul 22, 2017 11:03:15 GMT -5
Well, baseball is defending PL baseball champion and is, IMHO, more likely than LAX to be the next of the two to get the next Spring PL championship, so I am not sure about that 87. I like lax, and it rapidly growing the high school level, but I believe it is still not considered the "spring sport" even at that level. (OK, except for some elite prep schools.) I think it goes beyond some elite prep schools. For example, in Southwestern CT, much of Maryland, most of Long Island and Westchester, much of the Philly metro area, and parts of NJ, lacrosse has passed baseball in terms of general interest. Yes- it does go beyond elite prep schools. It includes "elite" zip codes as well. That's it. Lax gets nearly zero run in the majority of bourgeois America. |
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Post by hchoops on Jul 22, 2017 11:14:44 GMT -5
I think it goes beyond some elite prep schools. For example, in Southwestern CT, much of Maryland, most of Long Island and Westchester, much of the Philly metro area, and parts of NJ, lacrosse has passed baseball in terms of general interest. Yes- it does go beyond elite prep schools. It includes "elite" zip codes as well. That's it. Lax gets nearly zero run in the majority of bourgeois America. As well as very little in the major cities. Non-existent in NYC. |
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 22, 2017 12:14:45 GMT -5
Looking forward a decade or two, concussion protocols, parental concerns, and the possibility of long term financial liability by sponsoring institutions may greatly alter the face of football at the college level.
IMO, the underlying 'problem' is that speed and increased mass (weight) are increasing the kinetic energy associated with collisions, and while players have gotten bigger, the brain and skull remain the same old.
IMO, lacrosse could be well-positioned to take advantage of a decline in college football.
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Post by bison137 on Jul 22, 2017 12:27:20 GMT -5
I think it goes beyond some elite prep schools. For example, in Southwestern CT, much of Maryland, most of Long Island and Westchester, much of the Philly metro area, and parts of NJ, lacrosse has passed baseball in terms of general interest. Yes- it does go beyond elite prep schools. It includes "elite" zip codes as well. That's it. Lax gets nearly zero run in the majority of bourgeois America. A bit more than that. It includes all of Long Island - even the non-elite parts - and almost all of Maryland, including some areas with incomes well below average. Also plenty of middle class areas that are not "elite zip codes" in many areas. Also there has been enormous growth in areas of the southeast, Texas, California that are middle class. Same with much of Pennsylvania that is far from elite. The participation rate of lax has more than doubled in the past 15 years and the number of high schools sponsoring it has grown dramatically. |
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Post by bison137 on Jul 22, 2017 12:28:37 GMT -5
Yes- it does go beyond elite prep schools. It includes "elite" zip codes as well. That's it. Lax gets nearly zero run in the majority of bourgeois America. As well as very little in the major cities. Non-existent in NYC. Yes, it is unlikely it will develop in cities other than Baltimore. But growing rapidly in thousands of middle class areas across the nation. |
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Post by hchoops on Jul 22, 2017 12:38:33 GMT -5
On Long Island the more affluent areas dominate lax: Garden City, Manhasset, shoreham-Wading River, etc almost all on the richer North .shore. The poorer towns perform consistently worse.
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Post by hchoops on Jul 22, 2017 12:40:32 GMT -5
Looking forward a decade or two, concussion protocols, parental concerns, and the possibility of long term financial liability by sponsoring institutions may greatly alter the face of football at the college level. IMO, the underlying 'problem' is that speed and increased mass (weight) are increasing the kinetic energy associated with collisions, and while players have gotten bigger, the brain and skull remain the same old. IMO, lacrosse could be well-positioned to take advantage of a decline in college football. Possibly, but since they are in different seasons, less likely. Soccer is more likely to benefit more if football declines |
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Post by sarasota on Jul 22, 2017 18:47:06 GMT -5
Let's remember......the PL is a higher level LAX league than a baseball league. Let's get on that band wagon. If a recruit can't play LAX at Loyola or Navy he can at least play against them in the PL at HC.
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Post by hccape on Jul 24, 2017 12:50:02 GMT -5
No question more money should flow to the LAX program. We play in one of the toughest D-1 leagues and we are making progress. Just by looking at the numbers that have been spent already and the results, its hard to argue. That's a pretty quick turn around. It use to be a private school sport, but if you look at the clubs that have grown and the middle school and high school, huge tournaments in the summer you can see its growth. The sport just announced University of Utah going D-1 for the 2019 season. That's the first Pac-12 school to jump plus it's a public school. I truly think the Football program will have trouble catching up to the D-1 programs that consistently win, even BC programs struggles. We want to be current in LAX and show we will not fall behind as new programs are added. Our spend should me no less than BU and Loyola, 1+ million a year gets us around 8-10 schollies and a lot of time on TV.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 24, 2017 16:41:16 GMT -5
No question more money should flow to the LAX program. We play in one of the toughest D-1 leagues and we are making progress. Just by looking at the numbers that have been spent already and the results, its hard to argue. That's a pretty quick turn around. It use to be a private school sport, but if you look at the clubs that have grown and the middle school and high school, huge tournaments in the summer you can see its growth. The sport just announced University of Utah going D-1 for the 2019 season. That's the first Pac-12 school to jump plus it's a public school. I truly think the Football program will have trouble catching up to the D-1 programs that consistently win, even BC programs struggles. We want to be current in LAX and show we will not fall behind as new programs are added. Our spend should me no less than BU and Loyola, 1+ million a year gets us around 8-10 schollies and a lot of time on TV. First MEN'S Pac-12 program...The Pac-12 sponsors women's lacrosse with USC, Colorado being national powers and Stanford, Cal, St. Mary's, Oregon, Stanford, San Diego State having programs. |
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 24, 2017 16:44:05 GMT -5
Looking forward a decade or two, concussion protocols, parental concerns, and the possibility of long term financial liability by sponsoring institutions may greatly alter the face of football at the college level. IMO, the underlying 'problem' is that speed and increased mass (weight) are increasing the kinetic energy associated with collisions, and while players have gotten bigger, the brain and skull remain the same old. IMO, lacrosse could be well-positioned to take advantage of a decline in college football. Possibly, but since they are in different seasons, less likely. Soccer is more likely to benefit more if football declines Soccer has a ton of concussions also. www.nytimes.com/2017/02/02/well/move/soccer-ball-heading-may-cause-concussion-symptoms.html |
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Post by hccape on Jul 24, 2017 17:58:00 GMT -5
No question more money should flow to the LAX program. We play in one of the toughest D-1 leagues and we are making progress. Just by looking at the numbers that have been spent already and the results, its hard to argue. That's a pretty quick turn around. It use to be a private school sport, but if you look at the clubs that have grown and the middle school and high school, huge tournaments in the summer you can see its growth. The sport just announced University of Utah going D-1 for the 2019 season. That's the first Pac-12 school to jump plus it's a public school. I truly think the Football program will have trouble catching up to the D-1 programs that consistently win, even BC programs struggles. We want to be current in LAX and show we will not fall behind as new programs are added. Our spend should me no less than BU and Loyola, 1+ million a year gets us around 8-10 schollies and a lot of time on TV. First MEN'S Pac-12 program...The Pac-12 sponsors women's lacrosse with USC, Colorado being national powers and Stanford, Cal, St. Mary's, Oregon, Stanford, San Diego State having programs. |
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 27, 2017 7:57:11 GMT -5
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 27, 2017 8:20:40 GMT -5
What next? You'll want to ban boxing!
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 27, 2017 8:22:48 GMT -5
Yup!!!!
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Post by ncaam on Jul 27, 2017 9:15:37 GMT -5
What is cte in general population?
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Post by sarasota on Jul 27, 2017 9:53:50 GMT -5
as long as they leave MMA alone. i'm addicted.
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 27, 2017 9:57:23 GMT -5
Here is some info on CTE in the general population.
"There's not sufficient evidence to justify the assumption that CTE exists.CTE is typically only diagnosed in dead brains, during autopsy, as was the case with Finnerty. Earlier this year, a breakthrough study scanned the brains of five (still living) former players and found a buildup of an abnormal protein called tau, in patterns consistent with those found in CTE-diagnosed brains during autopsy.
However, Randolph says that doesn't necessarily point to football-related cognitive impairment. "The question really is, does having tau in your brain mean anything?" he told PopularScience.com. 'There's not sufficient evidence to justify the assumption that CTE exists at this point.' "
CTE is a political football at this point with many agendas in play. There is still a need for more study before a definitive statement can be made.
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