Caleb Green Rookie of the Week

Nice to see Caleb get recognized..He played a very solid game..Only 2 turnovers in 34 minutes, a GREAT start in his career!

Great start Caleb! Hopefully this will be one of many for him and his classmates!

Frosh looked great. Go Caleb!

I thought it might be interesting to compare Caleb's first game to Torey's debut. TT (still my favorite Crusader basketball player) had a sensational debut as the Crusaders beat Boston University 59-57 to open the 2003-2004 season:

21 minutes played
3-3 on two point shots
3-4 on threes (he went 11 for 50 the rest of the season...)
3-3 on free throws
3 rebounds
2 assists
0 turnovers
2 steals
18 points

The HC archives does not go back as far as Jave's first season (as least as far as I can tell)

I'm really looking forward to seeing CG in action against Harvard, having been limited to live stats in the SHU game

You can still watch the SHU game here


necfrontrow.com/webcast.php/SHU-4848/

iirc TT [& Keith] came off the bench in that game

looking ahead it appears that CG will get more minutes than TT in his first year... It will be interesting to see how CBC manages these minutes in conjunction with PB's, as both appear to be effective offensively when playing together.   

Is that shot really necessary?  Nicer guys and representatives of our college you could not meet.
I think you are better than that.

I have a less fond memory of RS. In RW's first year at HC, we shocked PC 54-43 in the Dunk. The following year, our team was even better but no element of surprise against the Friars as we had a re-match at the Dunk. The game was a back & forth affair but we found ourselves down by 3-5 points with about 2 minutes left. RS brought the ball up in a very lackadaisical (slow) way despite no pressure on the ball. It appeared that he was trying to run the clock down as if we were the ones holding the lead. Now, I am sure my frustration was misplaced as he was likely following RW's orders but it was a winnable game but not the way we played those last couple of minutes. Almost like we were going to settle for a close loss. We ended up losing 63-57. 

Never forgave RS for that. Would love to ask him about that game and what the thought process was. As for RW, not happy about other things . . . . like putting RP ahead of HC. Understandable if Ricky was a salt of the earth guy but  . . . . 

Now, CG, great young man and glad to see his initial success which I hope he can translate into a long, successful career at Holy Cross. 

Have you tried counseling ?

With some benefits . . . . I don't lose sleep over it anymore. In fact, I don't even think about it unless someone brings it up like posts extolling RS. I promise to work on it though. 

Thanks for the suggestion. Counseling might help many others on this board as well. 

give me a break. where did sov call into question whether our recent point guards were "nice guys" or "good representatives of the college"?

he is simply posting the observation that the quality of our point guard play appears to be better now - and most likely into the future - with the pb and cg combo than it has been for a long time.

this is what people do on a discussion forum. they discuss the strengths and weaknesses of a team. in doing so, comparison to previous years' teams strengths and weaknesses is a common frame of reference.

by these standards, i suppose we can't talk about poor rebounding of the carmody teams because malachi, husek, floyd, faw, et al are "good guys" who "represent the college well". i like carmody and think he will bring us back to the big dance sooner rather than later, but i'm concerned about our rebounding and i think the rw teams rebounded much better than our recent teams. the quality of play at the center position and rebounding in general is not a strength of the carmody teams so far. conversely, our team will likely shoot the ball better and demonstrate more offensive efficiency than rw or mb teams. that isn't a slight at pegues, kinsey, hurley, avb, green or other players who don't shoot as well at their positions as the current team. certainly not a slight at the quality of their character or how they represent us.

plus, why is there the assumption that the observation is only about thompson?!? the quality of point guard play has not been the strong suit of holy cross teams for a number of years now through several different rounds of starting point guards. thompson struggled the most out of our recent point guards, but none of burrell (seemingly more of a 2 guard at heart), beinert (definitely more of a 2 guard, albeit a decent point guard with good size), and the oft-injured pat doherty (who missed a ton of games, including a number of key games, during his career) were dominant strengths of their respective teams under three different coaches.

the play of pb, who was productive last year, and cg, who has all the tools/instincts/early signs of being a great floor general, appear as if it will be a strength of this team and into the future... and the quality of point guard play hasn't been one of the main strengths of our teams for a long time. i would argue this relative weakness goes back to torey, which is a big reason why it is so exciting to be a holy cross basketball fan now.

p.s. - suggesting that any poster has "hate" for a holy cross graduate, no matter how he or she performed in their sport, is simply ridiculous.