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Post by hchoops on Jul 24, 2018 12:39:01 GMT -5
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 24, 2018 13:46:56 GMT -5
I heard this rumor for the first time about 40 years ago. I look forward to seeing the case they make.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 24, 2018 15:43:08 GMT -5
I heard this rumor for the first time about 40 years ago. I look forward to seeing the case they make. You need to read through the comments section to the end for the answer. ________________________________________________________ Henry Heth, prominently featured in the article, was the valedictorian of Georgetown's class of 1837. Lewis Armistead was in the same class. John Dooley, captured in Pickett's charge, returned to Georgetown after the war and became a Jesuit.
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 24, 2018 15:54:26 GMT -5
Thanks for the tip. No answer in those comments, I am afraid...just (almost) unlimited unsubstantiated nonsense and name calling. I love history and a enjoy historic fiction but one must be careful to avoid conflating the two.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 24, 2018 17:03:13 GMT -5
Thanks for the tip. No answer in those comments, I am afraid...just (almost) unlimited unsubstantiated nonsense and name calling. I love history and a enjoy historic fiction but one must be careful to avoid conflating the two. The last comment was by the co-author, in rebuttal.. Bolding mine.
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Post by hcpride on Jul 24, 2018 19:32:11 GMT -5
Seems our Declan Cronin is a pretty smart guy.
WORCESTER, Mass. – The Holy Cross baseball team had 17 student-athletes named to the 2018 Patriot League Academic Honor Roll, as announced by the league on Friday. Junior Declan Cronin led the Crusaders with a 4.00 GPA during the spring semester.
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 24, 2018 19:48:41 GMT -5
Which rumor? The shoes? I heard that one probably 50+ years ago from my father who was an expert on Civil War history. I grew up assuming that was a given.
Guess now that I am retired I should find the time to read his 3 volume "Lee's Lieutenants" and the 4 volume Carl Sandburg's "Abraham Lincoln" that sit in my office at home.
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 24, 2018 21:15:39 GMT -5
You might also check out Bruce Caton's Army of the Potomac - 3 volumes. The story started during the War itself, but it was about shoes in anther city entirely. Lee''s army was headed to Harrisburg when (without their cavalry screen since Nathan Forest was off behind Federal lines) they ran into Buford and his cavalry. It was not to get shoes for men who had none. It was to get a supply for the needs of current and future Confederate soldiers.
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 25, 2018 5:54:16 GMT -5
Have you seen Ted Turner's "Gettysburg?" An epic. The score is outstanding and Chamberlain's (my personal hero) charge is perhaps the Civil War equivalent of the D-Day scene from "Saving Private Ryan" as it gives a taste of the exhaustion of both sides in that heroic battle within the battle.
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 25, 2018 5:56:09 GMT -5
P.S. Yes, my Dad always said the search for shoes was in Harrisburg, not Gettysburg.
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Post by hchoops on Jul 25, 2018 6:06:42 GMT -5
Seems our Declan Cronin is a pretty smart guy. WORCESTER, Mass. – The Holy Cross baseball team had 17 student-athletes named to the 2018 Patriot League Academic Honor Roll, as announced by the league on Friday. Junior Declan Cronin led the Crusaders with a 4.00 GPA during the spring semester.Not surprising a grad of Regis HS in NYC
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 25, 2018 11:22:14 GMT -5
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Post by beaven302 on Jul 25, 2018 13:11:00 GMT -5
P.S. Yes, my Dad always said the search for shoes was in Harrisburg, not Gettysburg. This was always my understanding. An Ohio State University Department of History website entitled "The Myths of Gettysburg" (https://ehistory.osu.edu/articles/myths-gettysburg) calls the story of shoes at Gettysburg a myth. The Shoe Factory® of Gettysburg Myth: The Battle of Gettysburg was fought over a shipment of shoes housed at the Gettysburg Shoe Factory. Fact: Not only was there not a shoe factory in Gettysburg in 1863, but the Army of Northern Virginia and the Army of the Potomac did not engage in three days of battle to gain control of a mythical shipment of shoes—even though both sides were in need of them, especially the Confederates. Fannie Buehler, wife of Gettysburg postmaster described Confederate General John Gordon's infantry as it marched into town. They were "dirty, …hatless, shoeless, and footsore." Additionally, when Confederate General Jubal Early marched his troops into the town for the first time on June 26 (on his way to Hanover Junction and York), he ordered the town to hand over 1,000 pairs of shoes and 500 hats, or as an alternative $10,000 cash. Gettysburg authorities knew they couldn't fill Early's bill and instead offered to open their stores to him. Early's inspection of the town's shops yielded him little in way of supplies (especially shoes) except for a hefty supply of horseshoes and nails. Source: Coddington, Edwin The Gettysburg Campaign: A Study in Command, 1968 Charles Scribner Sons.
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Post by hcpride on Jul 25, 2018 13:21:43 GMT -5
Seems our Declan Cronin is a pretty smart guy. WORCESTER, Mass. – The Holy Cross baseball team had 17 student-athletes named to the 2018 Patriot League Academic Honor Roll, as announced by the league on Friday. Junior Declan Cronin led the Crusaders with a 4.00 GPA during the spring semester.Not surprising a grad of Regis HS in NYC And played a little hoop for that team (#23)
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 25, 2018 13:43:29 GMT -5
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 25, 2018 17:49:58 GMT -5
The Confederates at Harrisburg. journals.psu.edu/phj/article/download/22936/22705This article describes the hurried defense of Harrisburg in the several weeks before Gettysburg, mostly by regiments of hastily recruited volunteers sent from New York. A Confederate cavalry brigade, part of Ewell's corps, led by Jenkins, was scouting the countryside, and commandeering all the supplies they could find. A full account of Jenkins brigade in Pennsylvania. www.emmitsburg.net/archive_list/articles/history/civil_war/jenkins_brigade.htmFrom reading the account of Jenkins brigade, I think 'shoes' was shorthand for supplies. If there was indeed a warehouse of shoes to be found at Gettysburg, Jenkins would have seized it before the Union forces ever arrived. Jenkins was 8-10 miles west of Gettysburg on June 22, more than a week before the battle began.
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 25, 2018 18:17:28 GMT -5
There was no supply of shoes at Gettysburg. The factory and supplies were in Harrisburg and the Confederates knew that.
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