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Post by WorcesterGray on Nov 21, 2018 6:31:08 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on Nov 21, 2018 7:01:29 GMT -5
Some positive stats JF now tied for 11th in blocks per game at 3.17 Team stays at third in assists per FGM at .712
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Post by possum on Nov 21, 2018 7:11:11 GMT -5
Yeah 17 offensive rebounds not good although Albany only turned it into 13 2nd chance points. Surprisingly 2nd chance points were even despite our getting only 7 offensive rebounds. Nice to see the boys regroup and dominate in OT after such a poor performance to end regulation play. Grandison is becoming a consistent scorer which is huge for this team. Would like to see Floyd get more aggressive in looking for his shot as was the case in OT. Niego's minutes have decreased last few games and other than Benzan not getting much help from bench. Nice to see Hargis get a few minutes maybe a glimpse at things to come.
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 21, 2018 7:12:13 GMT -5
Did our offense get overly dependent on the back door cuts. It seemed that once Albany wised up to that, we didn't have a lot of other options. Missed a few 3s and a couple short jumpers. It just seemed like players and coaches put it in cruise control too early. Credit Carm with calming everyone after what must have been the shock of going into OT. Did anyone else think we were the beneficiary of a lot of the refs' calls? All good points, but we have seen cold spell (0 for 7) before. The shots were set up well but just didn't drop. Cam did a great job as it was a poised group that came out in OT. The refs did seem to help HC in the first half, burin the second there wee a few "phantom calls" that helped Albany and set the numbers in balance.
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 21, 2018 7:13:32 GMT -5
HC was leadings in rebounds through the first half and the early part of the second - until the last 10 minutes - then all rebounding seemed to disappear for HC for a while.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 21, 2018 7:17:14 GMT -5
Yeah 17 offensive rebounds not good although Albany only turned it into 13 2nd chance points. Surprisingly 2nd chance points were even despite our getting only 7 offensive rebounds. Nice to see the boys regroup and dominate in OT after such a poor performance to end regulation play. Grandison is becoming a consistent scorer which is huge for this team. Would like to see Floyd get more aggressive in looking for his shot as was the case in OT. Niego's minutes have decreased last few games and other than Benzan not getting much help from bench. Nice to see Hargis get a few minutes maybe a glimpse at things to come. Benzan at 26.5 is getting the 5th most minutes Faw at 21.7 is 6th agree about Hargis It takes most freshmen a while to grasp the offense and the D, both very uncommon in high school competition
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 21, 2018 7:17:33 GMT -5
One positive for Albany...their uniforms are not as ugly this year as in some past years.
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 21, 2018 7:19:21 GMT -5
Yeah 17 offensive rebounds not good although Albany only turned it into 13 2nd chance points. Surprisingly 2nd chance points were even despite our getting only 7 offensive rebounds. Nice to see the boys regroup and dominate in OT after such a poor performance to end regulation play. Grandison is becoming a consistent scorer which is huge for this team. Would like to see Floyd get more aggressive in looking for his shot as was the case in OT. Niego's minutes have decreased last few games and other than Benzan not getting much help from bench. Nice to see Hargis get a few minutes maybe a glimpse at things to come. Benzan at 26.5 is getting the 5th most minutes Faw at 21.7 is 6th Fouls will again be a factor for Faw's minutes if he continues to pick them up as he did in the second half last night.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 21, 2018 7:23:07 GMT -5
Though last night’s foul trouble limited his minutes, Faw’s 18 total fouls for the season are a great improvement from last season and have not usually affected his minutes
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 21, 2018 7:25:33 GMT -5
I saw Faw's improvement but last night did give me some concern.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Nov 21, 2018 7:35:48 GMT -5
In the Telegram article Jehyve bemoans his own offensive performance this year. But he does himself a disservice - his O-Rating thus far (124.7 - KPom may differ slightly) is significantly higher than last year.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 21, 2018 7:39:02 GMT -5
In that quote JF may mean that he is not looking enough to shoot. His drastic improvement in passing ability may have him thinking like a traditional point guard
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Post by efg72 on Nov 21, 2018 7:48:41 GMT -5
Perhaps our offensive issues start when we sub in the backcourt.
While it adds energy on defense and helps push the ball in transition, we start to shoot too early in the half court sets. It appears we tend to hold the ball and look to attack 1v1 which doesn’t necessarily help ball and people movement.
Just a thought and easily corrected.
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Post by alum on Nov 21, 2018 7:50:27 GMT -5
I didn't get a chance to watch this game, but reviewed the comments here and looked at the box score and write-ups. Being a "keg half full kind of guy," (see SNL skit on recent Supreme Court nomination) my take away is that we had a bad lapse but still found a way to win. It sounds like BC wants to let his guys learn to work their way through problems without calling timeouts and it seems that the strategy almost backfired. If we want to lay the blame on him for that, I guess we should give him the credit for righting the ship in overtime.
If I am willing to cut BC some slack, I am certainly willing to do the same for PB. While he takes some ill-advised shots (and takes them too early in the shot clock,) he isn't afraid. I like that in kids. I guarantee you that there will be a game this year after which we will be singing his praises for putting the team on his back when the going gets tough.
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Post by efg72 on Nov 21, 2018 8:21:11 GMT -5
Though last night’s foul trouble limited his minutes, Faw’s 18 total fouls for the season are a great improvement from last season and have not usually affected his minutes Would like to see the stats and see if there is a relationship to the offensive droughts and the number of fouls we pick up, who is on the floor, and where on the floor these fouls are taking place.
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Post by Tom on Nov 21, 2018 8:58:22 GMT -5
Couldn't watch or listen. Just read thread and box. Approx when in the game did Hargis get his run?
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 21, 2018 9:02:57 GMT -5
From memory when we were up about 12-15 points and maybe 7-10 minutes left. Definitely not the usual game over, a minute or less left.
Not saying there was any causal relationship but my impression was Carmody thought the game was at hand and let’s see what the kid can do.
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 21, 2018 9:04:25 GMT -5
Late in each half, IIRC.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 21, 2018 9:17:53 GMT -5
From memory when we were up about 12-15 points and maybe 7-10 minutes left. Definitely not the usual game over, a minute or less left. Not saying there was any causal relationship but my impression was Carmody thought the game was at hand and let’s see what the kid can do. Few coaches, esp CBC, would think the game was in hand with that much time left and the difference not 20+. Esp with the 3 point shot, as Albany proved.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 21, 2018 9:23:50 GMT -5
Hoops, were you surprised that Carmody didn't use either of his two remaining timeouts to try and slow the Albany run?
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Post by hchoops on Nov 21, 2018 9:27:19 GMT -5
Somewhat But he has let previous teams try to figure it out first, so I was not totally surprised It is the Dean Smith philosophy to very rarely call a timeout to stop an opponent’s run
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Post by WorcesterGray on Nov 21, 2018 9:36:34 GMT -5
Bigger question is why we didn't foul Albany with a 3-point lead and under 10 seconds. Most coaches (including Carmody, based on his past behavior in this situation) know that this is the percentage play. I wonder if players simply whiffed here, or whether there was another reason
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 21, 2018 9:47:36 GMT -5
Woo, in watching the replay, Benzan was guarding Clark as he brought the ball up. He made no attempt to foul him as he drove inside the three point line before passing it to Campbell. It's possible that they weren't instructed to commit a foul until a certain amount of time remained on the clock (Clark passed it to Campbell with about nine seconds remaining.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 21, 2018 9:58:43 GMT -5
CBC was implying in his post game interview that he wanted HC to foul. Lutsk had said during the broadcast at that time that CBC usually tells his teams to foul when under 10 seconds and thus to expect it.
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Post by sader81 on Nov 21, 2018 9:59:13 GMT -5
Bigger question is why we didn't foul Albany with a 3-point lead and under 10 seconds. Most coaches (including Carmody, based on his past behavior in this situation) know that this is the percentage play. I wonder if players simply whiffed here, or whether there was another reason Carmody spoke of that on radio interview - said he told them to foul and they did not execute.
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