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Post by sader81 on Dec 19, 2018 10:57:16 GMT -5
Very significant changes in golf rules starting on 1-1-19. Among them - ground club in hazard; can keep pin in on green; out of bounds now lateral penalty; only 3 mins to look for a ball.
Will definitely speed up play and make the game more fun for the hackers (like me!)
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Post by alum on Dec 19, 2018 13:33:09 GMT -5
Very significant changes in golf rules starting on 1-1-19. Among them - ground club in hazard; can keep pin in on green; out of bounds now lateral penalty; only 3 mins to look for a ball. Will definitely speed up play and make the game more fun for the hackers (like me!) Thanks for posting this. Anything which speeds up play is great. |
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 19, 2018 15:38:28 GMT -5
Not everyone wants to play at George H.W. Bush’s pace.😊
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Post by thecrossisback on Dec 19, 2018 15:43:13 GMT -5
I like some of the changes, like if you hit a ball out of bounds, you can drop. Definitely speeds up play.
As a caddy, what slows up play is when people are not ready hit.
But as a golfer, I hate slow play.
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Post by Tom on Dec 19, 2018 22:02:09 GMT -5
I like some of the changes, like if you hit a ball out of bounds, you can drop. Definitely speeds up play. As a caddy, what slows up play is when people are not ready hit. But as a golfer, I hate slow play. That one isn't covered in the video Actually I don't even think it's a real rule. As I understand it, clubs will have the option of having a local rule that will allow the drop (with a two stroke penalty) excluding competitions. Not that big a deal. Most people I play with are quick with provisionals, so there isn't much running back to the tee. |
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Post by hc87 on Dec 19, 2018 23:42:56 GMT -5
Golf is a good walk spoiled....
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Post by hcpride on Dec 20, 2018 5:49:31 GMT -5
I like some of the changes, like if you hit a ball out of bounds, you can drop. Definitely speeds up play. As a caddy, what slows up play is when people are not ready hit. But as a golfer, I hate slow play. That one isn't covered in the video Actually I don't even think it's a real rule. As I understand it, clubs will have the option of having a local rule that will allow the drop (with a two stroke penalty) excluding competitions. Not that big a deal. Most people I play with are quick with provisionals, so there isn't much running back to the tee. As a dedicated public course player I welcome anything that might speed up pace of play (including tweaks to the "Rules of Golf", local rules and encouragement of ready golf) If the 'out-of-bounds 2-stroke penalty drop' doesn't affect your group because they take a pretty quick provisionals, it might very well affect your speed of play in any case (if any group in front of you on the course speeds up their play, it helps you). I sometimes see errant tee shots resulting in ridiculous ball searches…this rule might limit those searches too. "Basically, if you blow your first drive into the woods, you no longer have to hit your third from the tee box. Instead, you can play your fourth from the fairway—basically, the best case scenario (save for a hole-in-three) with your third shot. This was done to help pace of play". The new ruling on a 3-minute search (instead of 5) for a lost ball similarly may not affect your personal group, but... (and BTW this should [IMHO] be done by the individual while the rest of the group hits in ready-golf fashion) And the new 40-second rule might also help with speed of play (where enforced). (Now, if there was a rule on extensive gabbing in the tee box or the ridiculous putting green antics of certain recreational golfers we'd really be talking about improving the golfing experience for all.) All the new tweaks (especially the ones aimed at pace of play) are welcome. |
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Post by Tom on Dec 20, 2018 9:18:48 GMT -5
I'm thinking where the rule will help is people who think they'll find the ball and then can't or it's found out of bounds and are forced to go back to the tee. Many people don't take the provisional shot if something is borderline. I don't see this reducing the time people look for a lost ball. Lengthy searches are as much about the score versus the walk back to the tee.
If you really blow it into the woods, a lot will depend where you drop the ball. Is it at point of entry into the woods or best guess where it landed? There will likely be a pretty significant difference in distance. Also, playing the fourth from the fairway is a pretty generous drop or in an area where there's very little rough
Worse than extensive gabbing on the tee is when the gabbing is done on the cell phone with someone not even there.
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Post by alum on Dec 20, 2018 9:58:58 GMT -5
If you are playing on a public course in a friendly round with your buddies and can't find your drive, you have no business going 200 yards (not you guys, I am sure all the drives are 300) back to the tee. Drop a ball near where it went out, add a couple of strokes to your score, and keep playing. It is about having fun.
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Post by hcpride on Dec 20, 2018 10:29:36 GMT -5
I'm thinking where the rule will help is people who think they'll find the ball and then can't or it's found out of bounds and are forced to go back to the tee. Many people don't take the provisional shot if something is borderline. I don't see this reducing the time people look for a lost ball. Lengthy searches are as much about the score versus the walk back to the tee.It'll be a time saver given the new time limits on searching for a ball (I put it in my post)…as well as eliminating the trip back to the tee (if, when and where that occurs)...and (most significantly) given that the two stroke penalty means you are shooting 4 from the fairway it might curtail the search even more:
"Basically, if you blow your first drive into the woods, you no longer have to hit your third from the tee box. Instead, you can play your fourth from the fairway—basically, the best case scenario (save for a hole-in-three) with your third shot. This was done to help pace of play". Golf Digest www.golfdigest.com/story/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-new-rules-of-golf
(yes, it is a generous 'drop',that means many recreational golfers thinking of their score will be less than motivated for the time-consuming search)
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Post by hcpride on Dec 20, 2018 11:24:08 GMT -5
If you are playing on a public course in a friendly round with your buddies and can't find your drive, you have no business going 200 yards (not you guys, I am sure all the drives are 300) back to the tee. Drop a ball near where it went out, add a couple of strokes to your score, and keep playing. It is about having fun. I'm with you on this one. |
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