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Post by bringbackcaro on Jan 23, 2019 20:59:26 GMT -5
You can’t fire a coach with no AD. I bet Carmody walks after this year. I don’t like being right, but besides the 4 game run, this guy has been a disaster like MB And SK. No different, the program is in shambles AGAIN!!!! Three coaching disasters in a row? Tough to coach when talent is just not there and hasn't been for years. Not making excuses for the coaching performances but the program has been talent starved for a long time. Yeah too bad the coach isn’t responsible for recruiting and managing a program so multiple guys don’t get kicked off the team. We should sure the guy responsible for that!
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Post by cmo on Jan 23, 2019 21:00:34 GMT -5
We just can’t make the right basketball hire.
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Post by purplehaze on Jan 23, 2019 21:00:35 GMT -5
It's so easy to complain and have all the answers - when did any of you guys really think this was a very good team. Our two home court PL losses have really set us back. Stony Brook is our only good win this season. This team's ceiling is to get a home game in the playoffs and that would be an accomplishment Baseball and lax start in less than 4 weeks.
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Post by classof83 on Jan 23, 2019 21:00:42 GMT -5
When does baseball season start?
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Post by cfrivals on Jan 23, 2019 21:01:34 GMT -5
You can’t fire a coach with no AD. I bet Carmody walks after this year. I don’t like being right, but besides the 4 game run, this guy has been a disaster like MB And SK. No different, the program is in shambles AGAIN!!!! Three coaching disasters in a row? Tough to coach when talent is just not there and hasn't been for years. Not making excuses for the coaching performances but the program has been talent starved for a long time. Who recruited them? The fans? Carmody’s recruiting has been awful! Administration takes an awful on this also!
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Post by gks on Jan 23, 2019 21:03:40 GMT -5
Three coaching disasters in a row? Tough to coach when talent is just not there and hasn't been for years. Not making excuses for the coaching performances but the program has been talent starved for a long time. Yeah too bad the coach isn’t responsible for recruiting and managing a program so multiple guys don’t get kicked off the team. We should sure the guy responsible for that! Of course he's responsible...so are the players that got thrown off. Three straight coaches....three straight bad recruiters?
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Post by thecrossisback on Jan 23, 2019 21:03:46 GMT -5
When does baseball season start? I know. Looking toward the Football season to. Can the baseball team get a thread? How many national championships do you need in baseball to get a thread.
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Post by hcpride on Jan 23, 2019 21:06:09 GMT -5
We weren't very good last year and this year with (essentially) the same players we don't seem to be very good either.
The theory that because so many frosh played last year we would be better this year v our Patriot opponents is not proving out.
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Post by possum on Jan 23, 2019 21:14:13 GMT -5
PL has figured out Carmody's offense and defense. Army picked apart the defense and the offense is creating no easy shots. In a tough spot with Carmody no AD in place to make a change and also could run the risk of incoming recruits opting out as was the case when Brown was fired. No way can extend him so in all likelihood will be operating with a lame duck coach next season unless Carmody has had enough and resigns. Really need to get a hungry young coach who looks at our situation as a stepping stone to the next level.
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 23, 2019 21:22:43 GMT -5
We are 2/3rds of the way through the season. The excuses that the team is young and inexperienced doesn't fly anymore. Most of the sophomores have played extensive minutes all last season and the same for this season. They are not freshmen anymore. They've had almost 2 years to "get" Carmody's system.
I don't buy the theory that we don't have good enough players. Are we to really believe that Army, Navy, Loyola have more highly skilled players? Opponents get wide open 3s game after game. We don't get rebounds, especially not offensive ones. You'll get almost none of the rebounds you don't even try to get.
Would be interested in whatever comments CWC made after this game as I don't listen to WEEI.
There needs to be changes and we aren't changing the players.
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Post by cfrivals on Jan 23, 2019 21:22:52 GMT -5
Maybe PL sees that it’s time to dump us because we are a constant bottom feeder! We could be in first place in the MAAC! 😂
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Post by Bleed Purple on Jan 23, 2019 21:41:16 GMT -5
Yet another disappointing outcome. To say that Coach Carmody has not thrived at HC is an understatement. I doubt he voluntarily quits a $300k+ gig unless he has another job lined up (doubtful) or he concludes that it is time to retire and he is in a financial position to do so. Agree nothing happens until new AD is placed. And waiting for a new AD will delay the necessary decisions, further exasperating the situation. What a cluster.
Agree also that a young, charismatic, up and coming coach is what is needed. In the Chesney mold. Effective recruiting will get us out of this mess.....but it will take time.
Hire new coach. Achieve mediocre results. Fire 4 years into a 5 year contract. Repeat as necessary.
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Post by bikeman on Jan 23, 2019 21:48:34 GMT -5
If your a young, charismatic, up and coming coach, avoid this job like the plague. You won't get great players to come here and you'll get zero support from the administration.
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Post by timholycross on Jan 23, 2019 21:58:26 GMT -5
Yeah too bad the coach isn’t responsible for recruiting and managing a program so multiple guys don’t get kicked off the team. We should sure the guy responsible for that! Of course he's responsible...so are the players that got thrown off. Three straight coaches....three straight bad recruiters? 1 out of 3 for sure. Kearney wasn't around that long and he did bring in Dudz, a pretty good player. Milan brought in players, MM, MA, Justin, Green...better as a group than the guys we have playing now.
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Post by cfrivals on Jan 23, 2019 21:59:33 GMT -5
Agree at the present state, this is a very unattractive job for any coach. Why do you think after MB, the best we could get is a coach who was basically retired at a part time assistant position, (zero interest by any other school)
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Post by timholycross on Jan 23, 2019 22:04:26 GMT -5
Before tonight's games, Bill Gibbon's freshman class has contributed 311 points. Bill Carmody's freshman class has contributed 17 minutes. Let's see what the kids can do. When people start holding up Gibbons as a shining example it shows you how bad things are with the men. He's playing freshmen for the same reason Carmody was last year- he has no seniors! One is fairly good but cannot play due to injury. The other is not a good player at all. I'd like to see #13 get a few minutes, how can it hurt.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Jan 23, 2019 22:07:59 GMT -5
Agree at the present state, this is a very unattractive job for any coach. Why do you think after MB, the best we could get is a coach who was basically retired at a part time assistant position, (zero interest by any other school) For the record, we could have had Kevin Willard if our illustrious AD didn’t screw it up.
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Post by Bleed Purple on Jan 23, 2019 22:09:41 GMT -5
Bike man, to the extent your post is true, then I am afraid HC basketball is doomed. I still believe if I'm a 32 year old D2 head coach who has won, is charismatic and can recruit effectively making $120k per year, I might at least consider a D1 job.that more than doubles my salary. Not as a life long commitment, but as a career stepping stone. Do you think coach Chesney made a bad career move?
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Post by billy72 on Jan 23, 2019 22:18:34 GMT -5
When did Pine leave ?
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Post by bikeman on Jan 23, 2019 22:20:26 GMT -5
I believe football recruiting at our level to be a bit easier than bball. The administration has to make a bold statement,decision about athletics soon.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jan 23, 2019 22:20:38 GMT -5
Just got back to the Bronx from West Point. Was not at all surprised by tonight’s result. We were lucky to even be within single digits well into second half. Insane how much deeper the Cadet bench is compared to ours. They actually have ten guys who belong on a Division I basketball court,
If not for blowing a 26 point lead at home against Bucknell, Army would be in first place in the Patriot League right now. Time to give Copeland more minutes. We need SOMEONE to be a spark off the pine and he’s our best bet and worth the time investment.
Nice to see Verbeek score his first college points (I think?). With some development he could be Greg McCarthy on a good day.
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Post by timholycross on Jan 23, 2019 22:28:05 GMT -5
Just got back to the Bronx from West Point. Was not at all surprised by tonight’s result. We were lucky to even be within single digits well into second half. Insane how much deeper the Cadet bench is compared to ours. They actually have ten guys who belong on a Division I basketball court, If not for blowing a 26 point lead at home against Bucknell, Army would be in first place in the Patriot League right now. Time to give Copeland more minutes. We need SOMEONE to be a spark off the pine and he’s our best bet and worth the time investment. Nice to see Verbeek score his first college points (I think?). With some development he could be Greg McCarthy on a good day. Was Carmody pissed at Faw or did Faw not respond well after twisting his ankle? Only 10 minutes, seemed out of it on several occasions.
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Post by lou on Jan 23, 2019 22:33:54 GMT -5
Just got back to the Bronx from West Point. Was not at all surprised by tonight’s result. We were lucky to even be within single digits well into second half. Insane how much deeper the Cadet bench is compared to ours. They actually have ten guys who belong on a Division I basketball court, If not for blowing a 26 point lead at home against Bucknell, Army would be in first place in the Patriot League right now. Time to give Copeland more minutes. We need SOMEONE to be a spark off the pine and he’s our best bet and worth the time investment. Nice to see Verbeek score his first college points (I think?). With some development he could be Greg McCarthy on a good day. Was Carmody pissed at Faw or did Faw not respond well after twisting his ankle? Only 10 minutes, seemed out of it on several occasions. He was nursing the foot all night. Working with the trainer several times. May have been reason why he sat
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Jan 23, 2019 22:38:45 GMT -5
For those longing for the "great coach that is RW's son, he possesses a .549 winning percentage as a head coach compared to Carm's .529. WOW! That would mean sh*tload more wins!
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jan 23, 2019 22:39:58 GMT -5
Faw also found himself in the usual foul trouble landing his third 40 seconds into the second half. It’s tough to keep him on the floor for 30+ minutes. Plus he got absolutely manhandled by Matt Wilson.
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