coachrt
Climbing Mt. St. James
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Post by coachrt on Mar 13, 2019 20:57:52 GMT -5
Once again in today's world too many AD's worried about wining the press conference and hiring someone with a name. Just goes to show that winning can happen anywhere. If you hire a good person and give them time to do their job results will happen. I think if your program is down 3-4 years to turn it around isn't long enough in most cases. There was a time people were calling for Langel's job at Colgate but the administration was patient and believed in him. The biggest problem is most of you people posting on here don't understand that and want immediate results.
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Post by classof83 on Mar 13, 2019 20:59:13 GMT -5
Will Bucknell accept a CIT or CBI Tournament invite?
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Post by cmo on Mar 13, 2019 20:59:40 GMT -5
How long is long enough?
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 13, 2019 21:00:46 GMT -5
If they sign with their right hand they'll be holding their nose with their left hand. Any chance for NIT?
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Post by classof83 on Mar 13, 2019 21:05:46 GMT -5
I don't think they have any chance at an NIT invite
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Post by notjuanjones on Mar 13, 2019 21:11:39 GMT -5
I suspect you'll be hearing from some about the transfers/prep route Colgate went to build its team the last few years. I doubt they care much about that tonight in Hamilton.
Congrats to the Raiders.
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 13, 2019 21:23:10 GMT -5
If Colgate doesn't show up in the Varsity Blues sting I have no criticism of their recruiting.
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Post by timholycross on Mar 13, 2019 23:28:59 GMT -5
If Colgate doesn't show up in the Varsity Blues sting I have no criticism of their recruiting. It would be one way for their coach to get a bump in pay
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 14, 2019 7:02:28 GMT -5
If Colgate doesn't show up in the Varsity Blues sting I have no criticism of their recruiting. In the ultimate con job, it will be revealed that Singer bribed Colgate's baseball coach to get some actor's kid admitted to the school....
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Post by Tom on Mar 14, 2019 7:55:27 GMT -5
Once again in today's world too many AD's worried about wining the press conference and hiring someone with a name. Just goes to show that winning can happen anywhere. If you hire a good person and give them time to do their job results will happen. I think if your program is down 3-4 years to turn it around isn't long enough in most cases. There was a time people were calling for Langel's job at Colgate but the administration was patient and believed in him. The biggest problem is most of you people posting on here don't understand that and want immediate results. After 5 seasons Langel was 71- 114 (42-58) Somewhat skewed by a horrible first season
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Post by sader81 on Mar 14, 2019 8:20:50 GMT -5
I was impressed with Colgate all year. They were the best in the PL. They play hard and shoot well, and will be a tough out in the tourney! Congrats and good luck to them.
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Post by hopjim on Mar 14, 2019 8:33:39 GMT -5
I suspect you'll be hearing from some about the transfers/prep route Colgate went to build its team the last few years. I doubt they care much about that tonight in Hamilton. Congrats to the Raiders. Interesting point. Colgate followed a path few Patriot League teams employ in any sport. Looking back in 2-3 years, wonder if Colgate's transfer/prep approach will have caused a material change.
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Post by timholycross on Mar 14, 2019 8:57:17 GMT -5
Prep meaning they "hid" kids for a post graduate year?
Getting back to the game itself, there were similarities between last night and CU's game with HC a couple weeks ago. In each case CU had a big lead, it evaporated; then the Raidahs blew the game wide open featuring some incredible shooting.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 14, 2019 9:25:00 GMT -5
I suspect you'll be hearing from some about the transfers/prep route Colgate went to build its team the last few years. Clearly, this is how Langel determined was the best way to bring in talent and build a program. Do you think there's something wrong with it?
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Post by Tom on Mar 14, 2019 9:35:13 GMT -5
Semi off topic, but what are we guessing for a seed?
15?
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 14, 2019 9:48:55 GMT -5
I suspect you'll be hearing from some about the transfers/prep route Colgate went to build its team the last few years. Clearly, this is how Langel determined was the best way to bring in talent and build a program. Do you think there's something wrong with it? Saying it's just been transfers is short changing Langel a bit with what he's been able to do with "standard" recruiting. In the last three years, these recruits have picked up: -PL 2nd Team (3) -PL ROY (2) -PL Rookie Team (3) Meanwhile in Worcester, HOF HCBC's 13 recruits have accumulated more expulsions/getting kicked off the teams/disappearings (3) than PL awards (2 - PL Rookie Team).
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 14, 2019 10:07:41 GMT -5
Jeez, that's really bad when you look at it that way. It is amazing that after four seasons, not one Carmody recruit has made a PL First, Second, or Third team.
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Post by rickii on Mar 14, 2019 10:40:03 GMT -5
Couple months ago we discussed the United Nations profile of Colgate's Men Soccer roster.
Today we discuss the rise of Colgate's Men Basketball program from hapless to PL Champs with a peek at the roster.
Of their top 8 in minutes played, we find the leading scorer is from Austrailia, the 6'10" center - a Junior - went to HS, then prep school, then spent 2 years at Northwestern ( how old is he ? ). Of the remaining 6, 4 attended prep school after HS before coming to Colgate. Lastly, a transfer from Bowling Green appears to be sitting per NCAA rules.
Like was done with HC's men soccer, anyone want to compare the above to HC's hoops roster ? Maybe recruiting budgets as well ?
Am I questioning Colgate's recruiting ? Nope. This is just another example of Colgate's administration being brighter and better than HC and how far behind we were, and still are, despite the reconstuction efforts of Nate Pine.
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 14, 2019 10:49:28 GMT -5
Chess vs checkers.
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Post by classof83 on Mar 14, 2019 10:58:28 GMT -5
Haven't we taken kids who had an extra Prep Year? Wasn't that the case for Justin Burrell? And I know we have taken Transfers.
I wonder if the issue could be as much due to transfer admissions requirements when it comes to Prep School kids and Transfers and not so much the coach.
At HC does a transfer have to meet stricter guidelines to get into the school? And do athletes get special consideration or do they have to meet the same restrictions any other transfer student would have?
Maybe Langel is getting special consideration from Colgate's admission office - something HC's Admissions is not willing to give to our coaches.
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Post by classof83 on Mar 14, 2019 11:04:54 GMT -5
PB also spent a year at Worcester Academy after graduating from Roxbury Latin.
His year at Worcester Academy had nothing to do with getting his grades up
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Mar 14, 2019 11:15:40 GMT -5
Ryan Serravalle, Jave Meade, Eric Green, Robert Champion (I think).......I say the more the merrier. Patriot League Redshirting!
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Post by rickii on Mar 14, 2019 11:16:21 GMT -5
Colgate vs HC administration.... gocolgateraiders.com/staff.aspx?staff=481She's only been AD for a few months...first timer. Per her resume', don't see any experience at her previous stops in hiring/firing coaches....more in using her degree in psych and some fundraising. Based on the mood of some here toward Nate Pine, wonder how this hire would have been greeted by the the sandbox here. Who did she succeed ?
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Post by WorcesterGray on Mar 14, 2019 11:16:44 GMT -5
Semi off topic, but what are we guessing for a seed? 15? Yes. As of this morning Lunardi projects them playing Duke
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Post by WorcesterGray on Mar 14, 2019 11:18:27 GMT -5
Ryan Serravalle, Jave Meade, Eric Green, Robert Champion (I think).......I say the more the merrier. Patriot League Redshirting! When FCMB recruited Jehyve, believe the original idea was to have him prep - but failure to land a "ready" big changed that plan
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