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Post by timholycross on Jul 22, 2019 10:55:51 GMT -5
/\ It is indeed odd (peculiar?) that we have 2 (two) outgoing transfers who are neither disgruntled bench-type players nor guys playing well who are looking to go big time. Even in these transfer-happy times those are two standard reasons. There may be an internal dynamic going on we do not know about or it could be just about anything. With Green, seems like it's a combination of the coaching change (and a long rebuilding ahead with or without him), having friends and a familiar coach at his destination school, Fairfield being a good university; and, under the circumstances; getting a free year of grad school.
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Post by lou on Jul 22, 2019 11:07:53 GMT -5
What is Caleb's connection to new FU coach Jay Young?
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Post by WorcesterGray on Jul 22, 2019 11:11:18 GMT -5
Believe that when Young was an assistant at Stony Brook, he recruited Green.
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Post by hcpride on Jul 22, 2019 11:56:42 GMT -5
Speaking of Stony Brook (and to illustrate the degree of transferring we now see nationally ), they lost a grad transfer to Rutgers (SBU's best player who could have stuck around another year) and two non-starters also transferred out. So that is three outgoing. Incoming, they landed a talented transfer from Dayton (who must sit a year) and a good point guard who sat last year after transferring from University of Tennessee-Chattanooga. (Plus they added a Juco player but I am not counting that as a transfer).
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Post by Tom on Jul 22, 2019 12:42:20 GMT -5
With Green, seems like it's a combination of the coaching change (and a long rebuilding ahead with or without him), having friends and a familiar coach at his destination school, Fairfield being a good university; and, under the circumstances; getting a free year of grad school.
We assume
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Post by hchoops on Jul 22, 2019 14:45:25 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 22, 2019 15:14:55 GMT -5
Couldn't get through the whole list but old friend Jahad Proctor is heading to the Big Ten. I wouldn't want to play him or his father in chess. Also, looks like a jail break at William and Mary.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 22, 2019 15:32:23 GMT -5
It's amazing the number of players transferring from a "high academic" school to some lamentable state U. I guess they figure the move will help them pursue their pro basketball ambitions....
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Post by hchoops on Jul 22, 2019 15:43:45 GMT -5
It's amazing the number of players transferring from a "high academic" school to some lamentable state U. I guess they figure the move will help them pursue their pro basketball ambitions.... Did you have Andre in mind.? It May help his Europe contract, but he is not an NBA player
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 22, 2019 15:57:50 GMT -5
I was thinking more of the Vanderbilt to UT-Chattanooga, Brown to Nevada, or Wm & Mary to Central Florida transfers.
Re: "pro basketball", I'm thinking more of Europe than the NBA
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jul 22, 2019 16:07:51 GMT -5
I would like to see longitudinal data regarding transfers over the last 10 years and if the experience at the new school was positive or negative regarding their previous school. Is the grass really greener? In retrospect did the transfer provide the experience and education they were looking for, or was the transfer a mistake like fools gold.
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Post by hchoops on Jul 23, 2019 10:29:45 GMT -5
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Post by sader81 on Jul 24, 2019 19:44:12 GMT -5
Per a good source, HC is taking a hard look at him. He’s a legit 6’9”, and has put on 15 pounds in the weight room since the season. His mother is the all time leading scorer leader at Wachusett, then played at Providence. His dad was a coach at Siena, Drexel, LaSalle and Virginia. I noticed he didn’t get a lot of love from posters here; but none of the posters have listed proven scorers that are 6’9” and are knocking on the door to come to HC. He played pretty well against HC at the casino as a frosh and would be a steal!
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Post by bison137 on Jul 24, 2019 20:15:45 GMT -5
Per a good source, HC is taking a hard look at him. He’s a legit 6’9”, and has put on 15 pounds in the weight room since the season. His mother is the all time leading scorer leader at Wachusett, then played at Providence. His dad was a coach at Siena, Drexel, LaSalle and Virginia. I noticed he didn’t get a lot of love from posters here; but none of the posters have listed proven scorers that are 6’9” and are knocking on the door to come to HC. He played pretty well against HC at the casino as a frosh and would be a steal! Only time will tell, but I think you'll be disappointed if he ends up at HC. He can't put the ball on the floor, can't score inside, can't rebound at the offensive end, can't rebound at the defense end, can't draw fouls, and can't guard anyone. But he is a pretty good 3-point shooter.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jul 24, 2019 20:17:06 GMT -5
Per a good source, HC is taking a hard look at him. He’s a legit 6’9”, and has put on 15 pounds in the weight room since the season. His mother is the all time leading scorer leader at Wachusett, then played at Providence. His dad was a coach at Siena, Drexel, LaSalle and Virginia. I noticed he didn’t get a lot of love from posters here; but none of the posters have listed proven scorers that are 6’9” and are knocking on the door to come to HC. He played pretty well against HC at the casino as a frosh and would be a steal! Only time will tell, but I think you'll be disappointed if he ends up at HC. He can't put the ball on the floor, can't score inside, can't rebound at the offensive end, can't rebound at the defense end, can't draw fouls, and can't guard anyone. But he is a pretty good 3-point shooter. Carmody is smiling in Stone Harbor reading that description.
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Post by sader81 on Jul 24, 2019 20:24:55 GMT -5
Per a good source, HC is taking a hard look at him. He’s a legit 6’9”, and has put on 15 pounds in the weight room since the season. His mother is the all time leading scorer leader at Wachusett, then played at Providence. His dad was a coach at Siena, Drexel, LaSalle and Virginia. I noticed he didn’t get a lot of love from posters here; but none of the posters have listed proven scorers that are 6’9” and are knocking on the door to come to HC. He played pretty well against HC at the casino as a frosh and would be a steal! Only time will tell, but I think you'll be disappointed if he ends up at HC. He can't put the ball on the floor, can't score inside, can't rebound at the offensive end, can't rebound at the defense end, can't draw fouls, and can't guard anyone. But he is a pretty good 3-point shooter. I learned a long time ago when I was involved in politics: Whenever a member of the opposite party gave me advice on most any issue, I learned that I should have gone the other way! But thanks for the advice, bison!
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Post by hchoops on Jul 24, 2019 20:25:56 GMT -5
Here is some info from your own party Just checked his stats in the two games vs. HC last season. Eerily similar 23 mins, 8 pts on 2–10 from three, 1-1 from two, 0-0 ft, 0 rebounds, 0 fouls(not a positive for a big who plays 23 mins) 25 mins, 6 pts on 2-9 from three, 0-1 from two, 0-0 ft, 0 rebs, 0 fouls
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 24, 2019 20:30:49 GMT -5
On that second game he tied his personal record for most two point attempts in one game...,,
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Post by HC92 on Jul 24, 2019 22:13:19 GMT -5
Very tough crowd here. I’m sure Nelson will work him out and see what he thinks. What big guys do as Frosh often doesn’t resemble what they might do as upperclassmen. No idea if that’s the case here. Could blossom into a star. Could camp out at the three point line for three more years. I trust Nelson to assess his potential to develop other parts of his game.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jul 25, 2019 5:28:00 GMT -5
I'm not necessarily looking for the kid to come here, but I'm starting to root for him to succeed wherever he lands. I mean, if he drops 30 on Bucknell for someone down the road, I won't be sad. The fact that he gained the weight over the offseason tells me he at least recognizes he needs to improve other parts of his game. He most likely will never be a Dennis Rodman or Wes Unseld, but he still might end up being an all around better player as he goes on.
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Post by sader81 on Jul 25, 2019 5:56:20 GMT -5
Very tough crowd here. I’m sure Nelson will work him out and see what he thinks. What big guys do as Frosh often doesn’t resemble what they might do as upperclassmen. No idea if that’s the case here. Could blossom into a star. Could camp out at the three point line for three more years. I trust Nelson to assess his potential to develop other parts of his game. Exactly! People here have pretty short memories. They forget that at our level, no 6’10” player is going to come in and play right away. They are going BE or A10. We get big guys that are projects - Clifford, Whearty and even Floyd, who many here thought FCMB was insane for bringing him in. Here’s a guy who can shoot, is fairly athletic, has hit the weight room to add to his 6’9” frame, has Worcester ties and is very interested in HC. People point out his lack of rebounds and fouls. Well, how many rebounds per game did our frosh have last year?? He’s a MAAC all-rookie team member from this past year; and people here dismiss him as if Lew Alcindor just had lunch at Kimball. I too trust Nelson to assess him and take a pass if he he doesn’t feel he’ll work out. Maybe we need another wing!
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Post by Tom on Jul 25, 2019 8:29:22 GMT -5
His mother is the all time leading scorer leader at Wachusett, then played at Providence. Who's his mother?
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Post by sader81 on Jul 25, 2019 9:25:03 GMT -5
His mother is the all time leading scorer leader at Wachusett, then played at Providence. Who's his mother? Ferguson.
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Post by classof83 on Jul 25, 2019 10:12:45 GMT -5
When did she graduate from Wachusett?
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Post by dietpepsi on Jul 25, 2019 10:24:23 GMT -5
While it may not be popular on this board, I see little problem with the current state of transferring in the NCAA.
Some of you may remember a March Madness standout from this year, Texas Tech guard Matt Mooney. Originally started at Air Force and played for a year. Transferred to South Dakota, sat out a year, then had two stellar years there. With one year remaining in eligibility, transferred to Texas Tech as a grad transfer and was a key figure in their unlikely run to the national championship game. Mooney was most recently seen scoring 17 points in an NBA Summer League game. A more restrictive transfer system would likely not allow for a story like Mooney's.
Ultimately, it puts the power in the hands of the players. Is that the worst thing in the world? Coaches at the D1 level are compensated plenty well for the efforts. Hard for me to justify a more restrictive transfer process to make their lives easier at the expense of the players.
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