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Post by hchoops on May 1, 2019 15:45:57 GMT -5
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 1, 2019 18:24:22 GMT -5
IMO, this honor is very big with TPTB.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on May 1, 2019 21:43:48 GMT -5
No men’s basketball.
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Post by bison137 on May 1, 2019 23:31:23 GMT -5
They got dinged for a problem during the 2016-17 season, and the calculation is a four-year rolling average. I am sure the problem is Tyrone Cohen, and he will affect the APR for the next few years.
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Post by timholycross on May 2, 2019 8:31:06 GMT -5
What happens when a player transfers to another school outright; no academic or disciplinary issues...which is the case in men's soccer this year (Becher leaving for U St. Louis)?
And does Yale basketball get knocked down a peg if their star player stays in the NBA draft?
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Post by alum on May 2, 2019 9:17:01 GMT -5
What happens when a player transfers to another school outright; no academic or disciplinary issues... which is the case in men's soccer this year (Becher leaving for U St. Louis)?
And does Yale basketball get knocked down a peg if their star player stays in the NBA draft? I hadn't seen this. I am disappointed but not terribly surprised. We got him because he committed early, before being a U20 national team player, and to his credit he honored that commitment. It would have been great to have a player of his caliber for four years, but apparently it was not to be.
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Post by matunuck on May 2, 2019 9:27:18 GMT -5
More impressive that schools like Villanova, BC, and ND are consistently ranked near the top to be honest.
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Post by bison137 on May 2, 2019 10:16:34 GMT -5
What happens when a player transfers to another school outright; no academic or disciplinary issues...which is the case in men's soccer this year (Becher leaving for U St. Louis)? And does Yale basketball get knocked down a peg if their star player stays in the NBA draft? Teams don't get penalized for that if the player leaves in good standing with a GPA of 2.6 or better.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on May 2, 2019 11:02:00 GMT -5
Bison, do you know if / how non-scholarship players are factored in?
I'm curious how the Charles, Stevens, and Powers fiasco will hurt the APR in coming years.
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Post by bison137 on May 2, 2019 11:08:10 GMT -5
Bison, do you know if / how non-scholarship players are factored in? I'm curious how the Charles, Stevens, and Powers fiasco will hurt the APR in coming years. Non-scholarship players are not included - except for the Ivy's where the calculation is based on students who were admitted as coaches' picks. As for those three, it depends on their status when they left. If they concluded all courses for the spring semester and then transferred with a GPA of 2.6 or better, then there will be no effect. If they didn't finish the semester or transferred with a low GPA, then it will have an impact. Due to the time lag, any effect won't be seen until next year.
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Post by hcpride on May 2, 2019 11:27:06 GMT -5
When a school that does well in sports also finishes near the top of this I am very impressed.
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Post by Tom on May 3, 2019 8:53:28 GMT -5
They got dinged for a problem during the 2016-17 season, and the calculation is a four-year rolling average. I am sure the problem is Tyrone Cohen, and he will affect the APR for the next few years. Cohen is still going to college and is listed as a junior for Pace so I assume he will actually graduate on time in the class of 2020. That still could potentially count against HC in the APR? I am assuming he didn't take a bunch of incomplete's to be listed as junior this year. I am also assuming if he needed more academic time than he had eligibility he would have sat out a year like most transfers. Don't know, just asking. Charles and Stevens I have no clue if they're in college anywhere. I would assume that counts against HC, or will if the calculation is a year behind. They both finished the spring semester and to the best of my knowledge were in good academic standing, but we don't know if they transferred anywhere at all. I would think they would count against the APR until they land somewhere and start progressing towards a degree
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 3, 2019 9:51:32 GMT -5
If KC as a matriculating junior in good standing at the end of the academic year, would typically need to enroll for two years at another institution to get a degree from such. I believe that the great majority of schools allow you to transfer up to 60 credits. .
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Post by bison137 on May 3, 2019 10:16:11 GMT -5
They got dinged for a problem during the 2016-17 season, and the calculation is a four-year rolling average. I am sure the problem is Tyrone Cohen, and he will affect the APR for the next few years. Cohen is still going to college and is listed as a junior for Pace so I assume he will actually graduate on time in the class of 2020. That still could potentially count against HC in the APR? I am assuming he didn't take a bunch of incomplete's to be listed as junior this year. I am also assuming if he needed more academic time than he had eligibility he would have sat out a year like most transfers. Don't know, just asking. Charles and Stevens I have no clue if they're in college anywhere. I would assume that counts against HC, or will if the calculation is a year behind. They both finished the spring semester and to the best of my knowledge were in good academic standing, but we don't know if they transferred anywhere at all. I would think they would count against the APR until they land somewhere and start progressing towards a degree Anything he does after he walks out the door at Holy Cross doesn't count in HC's APR. He will count against the HC APR for three more years. If Charles and Stevens completed the spring semester and had a GPA of 2.6 or better, then they will not count against the APR ever. Doesn't matter if they go on to get a degree.
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Post by timholycross on May 6, 2019 10:49:38 GMT -5
What happens when a player transfers to another school outright; no academic or disciplinary issues... which is the case in men's soccer this year (Becher leaving for U St. Louis)?
And does Yale basketball get knocked down a peg if their star player stays in the NBA draft? I hadn't seen this. I am disappointed but not terribly surprised. We got him because he committed early, before being a U20 national team player, and to his credit he honored that commitment. It would have been great to have a player of his caliber for four years, but apparently it was not to be. He tweeted he was leaving; I was looking for it because I've seen a message board for soccer where a couple posters have a deep, incessant hatred for Koolman and they (gleefully) mentioned it.
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