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Post by rf1 on Mar 13, 2020 10:39:34 GMT -5
Per the statistics maintained by each team, Holy Cross drew an average of 1,359 per game which ranked 11th in New England for 2019-20 D1 men's basketball home attendance. Providence once again led the region with a mark of 10,064 this past season. In a change from recent years, Vermont surpassed UMass-Amherst for 5th place. The Minutemen, completing their 5th straight losing season, continued to see their attendance decline recording an average of just 2,717 in the 9,493 seat Mullins Center (29% capacity).
NEW ENGLAND MEN'S BASKETBALL D1 HOME ATTENDANCE BY AVERAGE 2019-20
TEAM | GAMES | TOTAL | AVERAGE | LY AVERAGE | DIFF
PROVIDENCE | 16 | 161,029 | 10,064 | 9,542 | 5.5%
UCONN | 17 | 156,389 | 9,199 | 8,652 | 6.3%
URI | 15 | 92,156 | 6,144 | 5,797 | 6.0%
BOSTON COLLEGE | 18 | 97,527 | 5,418 | 5,243 | 3.3%
VERMONT | 16 | 48,501 | 3,031 | 2,693 | 12.5%
UMASS-AMHERST | 16 | 43,477 | 2,717 | 2,792 | -2.7%
FAIRFIELD | 13 | 21,714 | 1,670 | 1,357 | 23.1%
HARVARD | 12 | 17,678 | 1,473 | 1,550 | -5.0%
YALE | 11 | 16,073 | 1,461 | 1,597 | -8.5%
BROWN | 14 | 19,110 | 1,365 | 1,224 | 11.5%
HOLY CROSS | 14 | 19,019 | 1,359 | 1,361 | -0.2%
QUINNIPIAC | 14 | 17,647 | 1,261 | 1,225 | 2.9%
CCSU | 13 | 15,555 | 1,197 | 1,005 | 19.1%
NORTHEASTERN | 13 | 15,419 | 1,186 | 1,117 | 6.1%
MERRIMACK | 12 | 12,473 | 1,039 | - | -
BRYANT | 14 | 14,229 | 1,016 | 752 | 35.1%
UMASS-LOWELL | 17 | 16,368 | 963 | 1,203 | -20.0%
HARTFORD | 17 | 16,131 | 949 | 850 | 11.7%
MAINE | 12 | 10,711 | 893 | 1,009 | -11.5%
DARTMOUTH | 12 | 10,480 | 873 | 827 | 5.6%
BU | 15 | 11,734 | 782 | 735 | 6.4%
SACRED HEART | 13 | 8,140 | 626 | 648 | -3.3%
UNH | 13 | 7,185 | 553 | 383 | 44.3%
TOTAL | 327 | 848,745 | 2,596 | 2,590 | 0.2%
*Note that this was Merrimack's first year competing as a provisional member of D1.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 13, 2020 10:53:35 GMT -5
So a few points
1-the capacity for Vermont’s new for 20-21 facility is 3200
The current one is 3228.
WHY ?
When they average 3031 ??
2- will UConn surpass PC when they enter the Big East ? I think so.
3- Surprising that our attendance went down by only 0.2
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Post by timholycross on Mar 14, 2020 7:20:38 GMT -5
If they play the "bigger" opponents at the XL Center, then, yes.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Mar 14, 2020 11:22:32 GMT -5
So a few points 1-the capacity for Vermont’s new for 20-21 facility is 3200
The current one is 3228.
WHY ?
When they average 3031 ??2- will UConn surpass PC when they enter the Big East ? I think so. 3- Surprising that our attendance went down by only 0.2 Probably looked at college athletics attendance trends in the region and concluded that a 5K seat arena would probably not be necessary down the road, even assuming continued success at UVM. Also, home-court advantage is an asset. 3,200 people in a 3,200 seat arena provides that more so than 3,600 people in a 6,000 seat arena. |
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Post by trimster on Mar 14, 2020 11:32:59 GMT -5
Like program heights, I’d say our figures are padded. My guess is the same applies to almost every other program in New England.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Mar 14, 2020 11:47:41 GMT -5
Prov is not "padded"- they don't need to. And as to "padded" numbers - if they were, I guarantee UMass would "pad" it to more than 29% cap.
Tickets sold vs actual rears in the seats is the only gray area.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 14, 2020 12:00:10 GMT -5
So a few points 1-the capacity for Vermont’s new for 20-21 facility is 3200
The current one is 3228.
WHY ?
When they average 3031 ??2- will UConn surpass PC when they enter the Big East ? I think so. 3- Surprising that our attendance went down by only 0.2 Probably looked at college athletics attendance trends in the region and concluded that a 5K seat arena would probably not be necessary down the road, even assuming continued success at UVM. Also, home-court advantage is an asset. 3,200 people in a 3,200 seat arena provides that more so than 3,600 people in a 6,000 seat arena. During their Brennan-Coppenrath-Sorrentine season it was very hard to get a ticket. They could have sold 4-5 thousand tiks. today ? I do not know. But I guess they would sell 3500-4000 |
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Post by rf1 on Mar 14, 2020 12:08:27 GMT -5
Prov is not "padded"- they don't need to. And as to "padded" numbers - if they were, I guarantee UMass would "pad" it to more than 29% cap. Tickets sold vs actual rears in the seats is the only gray area.
I believe that PC stopped padding their numbers several years ago when their deal with the DDC instituted a per ticket facility fee.
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Post by hc87 on Mar 14, 2020 12:42:58 GMT -5
Brutal #'s outside of the Power conferences (and even those are't great)....there is also no way on God's (still) green Earth that we averaged 1,300 souls at Hart this season. As ACTP stated, taken from ticket sales no doubt.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 14, 2020 12:50:26 GMT -5
Having attended only the BU game, I believe that attendance figure of 2063 was accurate.
it seemed as if even more were there.
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Post by trimster on Mar 14, 2020 13:51:53 GMT -5
Having attended only the BU game, I believe that attendance figure of 2063 was accurate. it seemed as if even more were there. I was there for most of the games and I thought there were more people there than 2,000. Also when I said almost all schools in New England pad their attendance figures, I was thinking of Providence as one school that didn’t. Probably could add UVM as well and maybe URI. |
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Post by rf1 on Mar 14, 2020 14:17:04 GMT -5
Most of the top attendance schools in New England already are drawing well for their so called "bigger" games. It is the lack of fans for the early OOC games against unexciting opponents that mostly keeps attendance down.
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Post by timholycross on Mar 14, 2020 14:17:55 GMT -5
Having attended only the BU game, I believe that attendance figure of 2063 was accurate. it seemed as if even more were there. I was there for most of the games and I thought there were more people there than 2,000. Also when I said almost all schools in New England pad their attendance figures, I was thinking of Providence as one school that didn’t. Probably could add UVM as well and maybe URI. Judging by the game I went to a couple of years ago, BC sells a good number of season tickets (either to individuals or ticket brokers); but the tickets that are actually used are for the bigger ACC opponents (and PC when they play there). The other games those seats are empty, but they count them. We counted no more than a thousand people at that aforementioned game, they announced the crowd between 3K and 3.5K. So BC cashes in for the seats, but nothing ancillary. |
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Post by Tom on Mar 14, 2020 15:29:37 GMT -5
Isn't it generally accepted that all published attendance figures are for paid attendance?
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Mar 14, 2020 15:47:30 GMT -5
Isn't it generally accepted that all published attendance figures are for paid attendance? For schools that don't draw- yes it is. But it's not some random # made up by the ticket office as some think. |
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Post by Tom on Mar 14, 2020 16:03:38 GMT -5
Isn't it generally accepted that all published attendance figures are for paid attendance? For schools that don't draw- yes it is. But it's not some random # made up by the ticket office as some think. Not just colleges, but don't pro sports teams also publish paid attendance? |
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 14, 2020 22:18:43 GMT -5
The Celtics published 13,909 as the attendance figure every game for years and years in a row.
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Post by timholycross on Mar 15, 2020 8:47:29 GMT -5
...the strange thing us old guys remember is that the 13,909 was more accurate for the Bruins vis-a-vis the Celtics in the early to mid 60s; during this time the Bruins always finished sixth (out of 6 teams) and the Celtics always won the NBA championship.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Mar 15, 2020 9:06:11 GMT -5
A few of us commented at the games that the attendance was half decent, considering the circumstances.
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Post by hc87 on Mar 15, 2020 12:12:05 GMT -5
The Celtics published 13,909 as the attendance figure every game for years and years in a row. The Fancy Pants A.C. regularly drew 13,909 back in the day..... |
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