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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Apr 15, 2020 18:03:41 GMT -5
Traits mentioned so far: -Dynamic -Reliable -Leader -Experience -Toughness -Physicality Nelson's culture shift is coming through loud and clear. Yes-- big contrast from the Carmody days as he specifically was recruiting for Dull Unreliable Follower Newcomer Wussiness Wimpiness
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Post by bringbackcaro on Apr 15, 2020 18:09:30 GMT -5
BCC I apologize if an overreaction, but I helped transform two fortune 100 companies and a major non- profit so I am very passionate about how we use the culture word I don’t understand how you’re trying to equate this to Nelson’s situation at HC. Rewind yourself back to those situations and imagine all of the teams in those orgs had high school grads who struggled reading and writing. Would you be upset if you were able to turn over the talent in the orgs? Nelson didn’t inherit a Fortune 100 company. He inherited a company in the sh*tter on the verge of bankruptcy. If the guys who left the program start appearing on the radar of successful D1 programs and/or there are other 3-29 seasons on the horizon, that’s a different story.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Apr 15, 2020 18:18:18 GMT -5
Traits mentioned so far: -Dynamic -Reliable -Leader -Experience -Toughness -Physicality Nelson's culture shift is coming through loud and clear. Yes-- big contrast from the Carmody days as he specifically was recruiting for Dull Unreliable Follower Newcomer Wussiness Wimpiness -Dynamic: Did Carmody care about anything other than shooting? -Reliable: At least 10 of 16 Carmody recruits will not graduate from HC, including 3 (+ a recruited walk-on) getting chucked off the team/out of school. -Leader: see Reliable -Experience: see Reliable -Toughness: Ranked 300+ in defensive rebounding in Carmody’s final three years -Physicality: see Toughness Adding Bo Montgomery: -Versatile: see Dynamic -Unselfish: see Reliable -Winner: 5 losing seasons in a row
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Post by bringbackcaro on Apr 15, 2020 18:21:47 GMT -5
Reading between the lines a bit, but Humphrey is listed as a Guard (same as RJ) and Townsend is listed as a Wing. Hopefully that means Nelson sees Humphrey as being capable of filling in a combo guard role to help back up RJ next year.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Apr 15, 2020 18:24:59 GMT -5
Traits mentioned so far: -Dynamic -Reliable -Leader -Experience -Toughness -Physicality Nelson's culture shift is coming through loud and clear. Or these are the puff words the guy behind the social media keyboard has been punching. Give it a rest.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Apr 15, 2020 18:27:04 GMT -5
BCC I apologize if an overreaction, but I helped transform two fortune 100 companies and a major non- profit so I am very passionate about how we use the culture word Right on, efg. The word “culture” has become a term that is used in every introductory press conference by a new head coach, and continuously gets thrown around in the first couple of years of their tenure. It gets to the point where it actually loses its meaning.
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Post by efg72 on Apr 15, 2020 18:28:58 GMT -5
BCC I apologize if an overreaction, but I helped transform two fortune 100 companies and a major non- profit so I am very passionate about how we use the culture word I don’t understand how you’re trying to equate this to Nelson’s situation at HC. Rewind yourself back to those situations and imagine all of the teams in those orgs had high school grads who struggled reading and writing. Would you be upset if you were able to turn over the talent in the orgs? Nelson didn’t inherit a Fortune 100 company. He inherited a company in the sh*tter on the verge of bankruptcy. If the guys who left the program start appearing on the radar of successful D1 programs and/or there are other 3-29 seasons on the horizon, that’s a different story. It is your interpretation of culture that is grossly misplaced. His philosophy might represent those characteristics, but culture is about values and trust built over time. he has a potentially bright future, but he hasn’t earned or proven that he deserves that trust and respect. Four straight 20 plus wins a season with few if any transfers is the beginning of reestablishing a culture, but that only matters if the graduates and players of his program are aligned around the values and behaviors he promotes. i want to win as much as anybody posting, but I bet you a ton of phantom dollars if you asked Ralph or George if this is about culture they would either laugh or cry
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Post by bringbackcaro on Apr 15, 2020 19:14:26 GMT -5
I don’t understand how you’re trying to equate this to Nelson’s situation at HC. Rewind yourself back to those situations and imagine all of the teams in those orgs had high school grads who struggled reading and writing. Would you be upset if you were able to turn over the talent in the orgs? Nelson didn’t inherit a Fortune 100 company. He inherited a company in the sh*tter on the verge of bankruptcy. If the guys who left the program start appearing on the radar of successful D1 programs and/or there are other 3-29 seasons on the horizon, that’s a different story. It is your interpretation of culture that is grossly misplaced. His philosophy might represent those characteristics, but culture is about values and trust built over time. he has a potentially bright future, but he hasn’t earned or proven that he deserves that trust and respect. Four straight 20 plus wins a season with few if any transfers is the beginning of reestablishing a culture, but that only matters if the graduates and players of his program are aligned around the values and behaviors he promotes. i want to win as much as anybody posting, but I bet you a ton of phantom dollars if you asked Ralph or George if this is about culture they would either laugh or cry So, by your definition, Ralph Willard did not establish a new culture within the HC program after nearly beating Kentucky in the NCAA Tournament in Year 2, nearly beating Kansas in the NCAA Tournament in Year 3, OR after nearly beating Marquette in the NCAA Tournament in Year 4. I completely disagree with your last line. If Ralph Willard took over this program last July, the number of player defections would have looked very similar to Nelson's first year. RW would not have tolerated where this program was headed and the mindset that had developed.
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Post by rgs318 on Apr 15, 2020 19:37:41 GMT -5
So from a prior post, are we looking start a culture that can "nearly win?" Please stop trying so hard with this.
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Post by efg72 on Apr 15, 2020 19:41:07 GMT -5
It is your interpretation of culture that is grossly misplaced. His philosophy might represent those characteristics, but culture is about values and trust built over time. he has a potentially bright future, but he hasn’t earned or proven that he deserves that trust and respect. Four straight 20 plus wins a season with few if any transfers is the beginning of reestablishing a culture, but that only matters if the graduates and players of his program are aligned around the values and behaviors he promotes. i want to win as much as anybody posting, but I bet you a ton of phantom dollars if you asked Ralph or George if this is about culture they would either laugh or cry So, by your definition, Ralph Willard did not establish a new culture within the HC program after nearly beating Kentucky in the NCAA Tournament in Year 2, nearly beating Kansas in the NCAA Tournament in Year 3, OR after nearly beating Marquette in the NCAA Tournament in Year 4. I completely disagree with your last line. If Ralph Willard took over this program last July, the number of player defections would have looked very similar to Nelson's first year. RW would not have tolerated where this program was headed and the mindset that had developed. Again that is not culture-change the language and you might have a valid point—words matter
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Post by HC92 on Apr 15, 2020 19:50:54 GMT -5
Seems like a good time to break out the Circle of Opportunity.
If we do execute these 8 things, we will win 95% of our games and have a chance to win the other 5%:
1. Deflections: our goal is 40 a game. 40+ deflections a game = .900 winning percentage. 2. Blockouts: we go back through tape and chart everyone on this. 3. Shot Contest: Every shot the opponent takes need to be contested on the ballside of their shot. If it is a righty shooting, we are flying directly at his right shoulder with 2 hands up as you can. There is a 4-5% difference between contesting on the player’s shooting side to his non-shooting side. 4. Offensive Rebounding: If you have an opportunity to go to the glass, you better get there. From the corner, Willard teaches his players to go baseline-out (meaning a player runs along the baseline to underneath the rim before jumping back into play). After the shooter shoots the defender runs along the baseline before jumping in front of the basket to get a hand on the missed shot. Teaches bigs to do the same. 5. Charges: Chart the number of times your guys step up to take a charge when they have an opportunity. This is a sign of sacrifice—giving yourself up for the team. 6. Bull Pursuit: Loose balls are OURS. All great rebounders/ rebounding teams do 2 things: They get great position and they pursue the ball. Use the stat “Out of Area Rebounds” and really emphasize it to your team. 7. Confidence & Emotion: Players must be confident going into every game that they can win. 8. Transition Defense: Take away easy baskets.
There’s nothing in this circle of 8 that we can’t do. We’re not asking you to do anything which you’re not capable of doing. It comes down to execution and effort.
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Post by sarasota on Apr 15, 2020 20:07:14 GMT -5
90% of Defense is Effort--not intelligence, not coaching. EFFORT. You want throw-yourself-on-the-grenade types not Toreador types.
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Post by rgs318 on Apr 15, 2020 20:21:02 GMT -5
Sounds like we may finally be getting that team of "hubcap stealers" that RW said so often he wanted.
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 15, 2020 20:54:25 GMT -5
Sounds like we may finally be getting that team of "hubcap stealers" that RW said so often he wanted. There was (is?) a business called "Hub cap Annies" in Central Mass. that sold used hubcaps. I damaged a rear hubcap and mentioned it to my buddy who worked at a car dealership. He said no problem, he'd call Hub Cap Annie and they'd drop one for my car off at the dealership. I never asked where they got their used hub caps.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Apr 16, 2020 7:13:24 GMT -5
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Post by efg72 on Apr 16, 2020 7:24:52 GMT -5
Thanks PP
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Post by timholycross on Apr 16, 2020 9:10:12 GMT -5
Sounds like we may finally be getting that team of "hubcap stealers" that RW said so often he wanted. There was (is?) a business called "Hub cap Annies" in Central Mass. that sold used hubcaps. I damaged a rear hubcap and mentioned it to my buddy who worked at a car dealership. He said no problem, he'd call Hub Cap Annie and they'd drop one for my car off at the dealership. I never asked where they got their used hub caps. Having seen Pulp Fiction and other movies/shows similar to that: always wondered about places like Frankenstein's (car demo place), which used to have ads on HC football. Just sayin'
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Post by efg72 on Apr 17, 2020 11:48:51 GMT -5
Anything out there announcing the formal signing vs commitment from Louth?
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Apr 17, 2020 12:25:53 GMT -5
Canada is on a metric NLI calendar, isn't it?
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Post by trimster on Apr 17, 2020 12:57:33 GMT -5
Anything out there announcing the formal signing vs commitment from Louth? Maybe the basketball office mailed it to him on Tuesday and he is going to mail it back. Tough times for the post office and HC is doing its part to support it.
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Post by dharry13 on Apr 21, 2020 13:14:50 GMT -5
At this point has anything surfaced on Louth's signing of the NLI?
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Post by dharry13 on Apr 22, 2020 11:15:28 GMT -5
Nelson just tweeted that Louth is signed. Entire class if officially signed.
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Post by rgs318 on Apr 22, 2020 11:31:06 GMT -5
Very good news indeed!
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Post by hchoops on Apr 22, 2020 11:48:29 GMT -5
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Post by trimster on Apr 22, 2020 12:06:13 GMT -5
That didn’t take long. I assume the hoops site will have something soon on our four new recruits.
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