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Post by Ray on Apr 14, 2020 9:04:00 GMT -5
Posted in the other thread, but seems like it deserves its own:
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Post by HC13 on Apr 14, 2020 9:19:35 GMT -5
Welcome Maureen, & guess we don't have to worry about hiring her husband by the sounds of it
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Post by rgs318 on Apr 14, 2020 9:31:54 GMT -5
As long as we are moving this over... 1. Nice job by HC on that announcement. 2. Good to see that all those who commented were other women coaches. We are finally getting there if giving women their due.
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Post by HC13 on Apr 14, 2020 9:54:47 GMT -5
Will be curious to see if any of the current staff is retained and who if anyone joins her from UNH
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Post by HC13 on Apr 14, 2020 10:25:10 GMT -5
First job, secure the commitments of the class or '20, Power hopefully signs her LOI tomorrow (I think the signing period is still opening on the 15th)
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 14, 2020 10:48:35 GMT -5
I have no sense there will be, but I hope there is no attempt to substitute players the new coach has had her eye on for players promised by HC. That strikes me as a poor trade off of Holy Cross values for the excesses of big time basketball that is almost guaranteed to not deliver the rewards of big time basketball in exchange.
You get your contract, you meet all the commitments made by your school, you coach up your roster and you get the chance to recruit the players you choose each year as existing players graduate.
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Post by HC13 on Apr 14, 2020 10:59:47 GMT -5
I have no sense there will be, but I hope there is no attempt to substitute players the new coach has had her eye on for players promised by HC. That strikes me as a poor trade off of Holy Cross values for the excesses of big time basketball that is almost guaranteed to not deliver the rewards of big time basketball in exchange. You get your contract, you meet all the commitments made by your school, you coach up your roster and you get the chance to recruit the players you choose each year as existing players graduate. Highly unlikely, My concern is players de-committing or going into the transfer portal. The class of '20 is pretty good I think and HC can ill afford to lose Labarbera or Ezemma
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Post by purplehaze on Apr 14, 2020 11:25:15 GMT -5
Just as the men's team brought in late recruits, I'm hoping Magarity can find one more frosh or a transfer - also, there's nothing wrong if one of her UNH recruits reaches out to her and expresses interest in HC if there's room. We have 11 or 12 on the projected roster now (Faulkner?) so we can use another body or two.
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Post by hc17 on Apr 14, 2020 11:33:30 GMT -5
For those that have seen UNH play over the last decade, any takeaways with respect to the play style? Obviously we're too early in the ballgame on the men's side, would think that ADMB would have aligned on a similar play style preference with Magarity as he did with Nelson.
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 14, 2020 12:20:11 GMT -5
If we have open spots it's open season to lasoo the moon and reel it in. But Faulkner is a good example of my thinking. I hope no one pressures her and instead I hope the AD, and now the new coach has assured her she is wanted back.
According to a post here, Avery liked the Atticus post about an impending announcement, so that indicated to me the AD had kept the existing players in the loop and on board during the search process. I hope that's the case.
Regarding Ezemma, her trajectory strikes me as similar to Meghan Swords in the sense she has strengths but not the complete polished package like Manis or Avery yet and good coaching can get the best out of her. So it will be great to see her progress like Swords did. I doubt anyone will enter the portal.
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 14, 2020 12:40:51 GMT -5
For those that have seen UNH play over the last decade, any takeaways with respect to the play style? Obviously we're too early in the ballgame on the men's side, would think that ADMB would have aligned on a similar play style preference with Magarity as he did with Nelson. I saw UNH get crushed by Dartmouth on NESN this season. I will not hold that game against the new coach but UNH did not play well and Dartmouth looked like world beaters, which they weren't at 10-17 for the season. ADMB and the BDS Agency has focused on how she built a winner out of nothing in the BB desert of Durham, NH., but there must be some explanation as to why the team regressed the last two years besides the admissions office. The HC admissions office is no pushover either. If general admissions are lowered to keep seats filled with paying students during the upcoming recession, would the admissions Dept. lower the standards for athletic scholarship applicants to match? Or would there be a desire to use those scholarships to nudge overall academic quality up a little because it had to be lowered elsewhere?
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Post by johnnyboy1 on Apr 14, 2020 13:57:31 GMT -5
For those that have seen UNH play over the last decade, any takeaways with respect to the play style? Obviously we're too early in the ballgame on the men's side, would think that ADMB would have aligned on a similar play style preference with Magarity as he did with Nelson. Yeah I know their play style, it’s losing to Holy Cross and Coach AM by 20+ points. Also, we better hope Magarity doesn’t have the same play style as Nelson because apparently his play style is 3 win seasons and losses to D3 teams. 0-2 on basketball hires AD Blossom.
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Post by lou on Apr 14, 2020 14:04:19 GMT -5
...or winning by 12 over AM the year before
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Post by rgs318 on Apr 14, 2020 14:05:37 GMT -5
Get real, please. You do know that UNH under Magarity split two games with HC. I guess you didn't see (or count) their win over HC in 2018-19. Are you really saying that Coach Nelson planned to have a 3 win season? Nonsense. You prematurely judge Nelson's hire as a negative (even with an apparently very strong recruiting class coming on board in the fall). You judge Magarity's hire as a negative before the first day of her coaching career at HC, but you neglect her very strong season and Coach of the Year honors as part of turning around UNH. Could you possibly be more unfair? Hard to see how.
Now in another 2 years, if things go as you seem to expect for HC, you may be shown to have real insight. However, I believe that is unlikely. Is your hatred of ADMB that extreme that you use such a foolish argument (based on so little) to say he is 0-2 on hires? I hope that is not the case.
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Post by bfoley82 on Apr 14, 2020 14:24:31 GMT -5
Get real, please. You do know that UNH under Magarity split two games with HC. I guess you didn't see (or count) their win over HC in 2018-19. Are you really saying that Coach Nelson planned to have a 3 win season? Nonsense. You prematurely judge Nelson's hire as a negative (even with an apparently very strong recruiting class coming on board in the fall. You judge Magarity's hire as a negative before the first day of her coaching career at HC, but you neglect her every strong season and Coach of the Year honors as part of turning around UNH. Could you possibly be more unfair? Hard to see how. Now in another 2 years, if things go as you seem to expect for HC, you may be shown to have real insight. However, I believe that is unlikely. Is your hatred of ADMB that extreme that you use such a foolish argument (based on so little) to say he is 0-2 on hires? I hope that is not the case. Turn around? Magarity is third out of sixth UNH coaches in winning percentage. She is Average at best.
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Post by johnnyboy1 on Apr 14, 2020 14:32:23 GMT -5
...or winning by 12 over AM the year before False, it was BG not AM as head coach in the 18-19 loss against UNH. IIRC, Ann Mac took over on Feb 2 against Lafayette which, let me remind you, was the first of her 26 wins in just 13 months.
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 14, 2020 14:47:35 GMT -5
I like ADMB. I give him an incomplete on both hires and am rooting for both young coaches to ignite a renaisance of winning BB at HC. I didn't warm up to FADNP as much as I have to MB for whatever reason, but Pine hit it out of the park with the Chesney hire. I have been a fan of that hiring model since.
As an admirer of Bill Parcells ("You are what your record says you are") I am apprehensive about replacing a coach coming off two winning seasons with one coming off two losing seasons at what I assume is higher pay for more years heading into a huge recession with no certainty the next season will be played. But men can multitask, too so I am rooting for Coach Magarity at the same time. Welcome aboard Coach. Here's your whistle, gloves and facemask.🙂
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Post by rgs318 on Apr 14, 2020 14:48:30 GMT -5
Get real, please. You do know that UNH under Magarity split two games with HC. I guess you didn't see (or count) their win over HC in 2018-19. Are you really saying that Coach Nelson planned to have a 3 win season? Nonsense. You prematurely judge Nelson's hire as a negative (even with an apparently very strong recruiting class coming on board in the fall. You judge Magarity's hire as a negative before the first day of her coaching career at HC, but you neglect her every strong season and Coach of the Year honors as part of turning around UNH. Could you possibly be more unfair? Hard to see how. Now in another 2 years, if things go as you seem to expect for HC, you may be shown to have real insight. However, I believe that is unlikely. Is your hatred of ADMB that extreme that you use such a foolish argument (based on so little) to say he is 0-2 on hires? I hope that is not the case. Turn around? Magarity is third out of sixth UNH coaches in winning percentage. She is Average at best. Yes, turned around a team that had several straight losing seasons. You need to actually look at the records of her predecessor at UNH. In the 3 years before Magarity came to UNH the Wildcats were 24-67 (13-35 in league games). In her second year, she had them post a winning record (16-14 / 9-7 in their league). In her 4th year they were 19-12 / 12-4) and in her 5th year they were 17-12/9-5). Then in 2016-2017 they were 26-6 / 15-1 and league champs and she won multiple coach of the year honors. Turn around? Yes, without a doubt.
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Post by Tom on Apr 14, 2020 15:28:35 GMT -5
I was surprised that she is the 7th head coach. The program only existed about 10 years before Gibbons took over. Quite the revolving door in the early days
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Post by HC13 on Apr 14, 2020 15:35:09 GMT -5
Good news is that several of the players, Labarbera, Demski, Petro & Cross liked various tweets, as dod a couple of former players.
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Post by timholycross on Apr 14, 2020 15:58:31 GMT -5
I was surprised that she is the 7th head coach. The program only existed about 10 years before Gibbons took over. Quite the revolving door in the early days Forgot Kevin McAuley coached the two years before Togo. Never heard of the other two people.
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Post by rgs318 on Apr 14, 2020 15:59:20 GMT -5
I was surprised that she is the 7th head coach. The program only existed about 10 years before Gibbons took over. Quite the revolving door in the early days Here are the Holy Cross WBB head coaches (years as head coach) won/loss records. Bill Gibbons (34 years) 613 wins / 410 losses Togo Palazzi (5 years) 103 wins / 28 losses Pat Corcoran (3 years) 21 wins / 26 losses Kevin McAuley (2 years) 16 wins / 22 losses Ann McInerney (1+ years) 26 wins / 15 losses Sharon DuPree (1 year) 0 wins / 12 losses
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Post by gks on Apr 14, 2020 16:24:00 GMT -5
For those that have seen UNH play over the last decade, any takeaways with respect to the play style? Obviously we're too early in the ballgame on the men's side, would think that ADMB would have aligned on a similar play style preference with Magarity as he did with Nelson. I saw UNH get crushed by Dartmouth on NESN this season. I will not hold that game against the new coach but UNH did not play well and Dartmouth looked like world beaters, which they weren't at 10-17 for the season. ADMB and the BDS Agency has focused on how she built a winner out of nothing in the BB desert of Durham, NH., but there must be some explanation as to why the team regressed the last two years besides the admissions office. The HC admissions office is no pushover either. If general admissions are lowered to keep seats filled with paying students during the upcoming recession, would the admissions Dept. lower the standards for athletic scholarship applicants to match? Or would there be a desire to use those scholarships to nudge overall academic quality up a little because it had to be lowered elsewhere?I know this is only a hypothetical but.....Thought in the Patriot League athlete are supposed to be representative of the student body as a whole?
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Post by purplehaze on Apr 14, 2020 16:43:50 GMT -5
There is a UNH player already in the transfer portal - soph center 6'3" Mary Foster from Elmira, NY - but she played very little in her two seasons so maybe not a consideration despite her obvious size
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 14, 2020 17:11:11 GMT -5
I saw UNH get crushed by Dartmouth on NESN this season. I will not hold that game against the new coach but UNH did not play well and Dartmouth looked like world beaters, which they weren't at 10-17 for the season. ADMB and the BDS Agency has focused on how she built a winner out of nothing in the BB desert of Durham, NH., but there must be some explanation as to why the team regressed the last two years besides the admissions office. The HC admissions office is no pushover either. If general admissions are lowered to keep seats filled with paying students during the upcoming recession, would the admissions Dept. lower the standards for athletic scholarship applicants to match? Or would there be a desire to use those scholarships to nudge overall academic quality up a little because it had to be lowered elsewhere?I know this is only a hypothetical but.....Thought in the Patriot League athlete are supposed to be representative of the student body as a whole? I wonder if recruited athletes who have been offered a scholarship can and do get placed on the waiting list like other applicants?
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