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Post by carlin96 on Sept 28, 2016 12:50:06 GMT -5
I know this was touched on in another thread but I was embarrassed as an alum and long time season ticket holder this past weekend. I understand NP and the athletic department wants fans in the seats but the antics keep getting worse each year. Police sirens as the game was going- Bullhorns urging fans to leave the baseball field during the first quarter- It was ridiculous. Dartmouth fans were perplexed as well. I'm sure glad the RSIG security made my 5 year old empty his Poland Springs bottle too! Sorry to vent - but the new guidelines are ruining tailgating experiences. I will always support my Saders but enough is enough.
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Post by lou on Sept 28, 2016 13:37:31 GMT -5
I was in the stands. Assumed here was a health emergency. Was this not the case?
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Post by hc87 on Sept 28, 2016 13:42:06 GMT -5
Heard more than a few gripes about this firsthand and then later on social media. My brother and I got to the game late and had to park on Clay St so we weren't exposed to this. I will say, that we met some friends/alums at the game and went out to their tailgate on the baseball field at half and there was hardly any (if any) intrusion from cops/security people. We stayed into some of the 3rd Q and went back in without any hassle.
Very tone deaf of HC imo...I know it's the norm today but a little leeway, particularly on Homecoming would have been the better course of action.
People are simply not going to go anymore (they hardly do now)....why bother? The product on the field stinks, you get hassled around etc etc...what's the appeal?
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Post by matunuck on Sept 28, 2016 13:51:05 GMT -5
Navy allows tailgating with no hassle whatsoever. Perhaps HC can travel to Annapolis and learn something.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Sept 28, 2016 14:19:37 GMT -5
I know this was touched on in another thread but I was embarrassed as an alum and long time season ticket holder this past weekend. I understand NP and the athletic department wants fans in the seats but the antics keep getting worse each year. Police sirens as the game was going- Bullhorns urging fans to leave the baseball field during the first quarter- It was ridiculous. Dartmouth fans were perplexed as well. I'm sure glad the RSIG security made my 5 year old empty his Poland Springs bottle too! Sorry to vent - but the new guidelines are ruining tailgating experiences. I will always support my Saders but enough is enough. I concur Carlin. Never used happen when the team was good.
Also - welcome to the board, and love your avatar!
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Post by WCHC Sports on Sept 28, 2016 14:42:20 GMT -5
HoCroPo has been hassling folks on Freshman Field since 2004 when they want to. This is not a new development, and has been raised in threads traditionally here [meaning the old Crossports]. I went to homecoming in 2009 and faced similar tactics.
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Post by hcgrad94 on Sept 28, 2016 15:29:07 GMT -5
HoCroPo has been hassling folks on Freshman Field since 2004 when they want to. This is not a new development, and has been raised in threads traditionally here [meaning the old Crossports]. I went to homecoming in 2009 and faced similar tactics. I was at game, parked on Fitton and had no such issues. Was a great environment and day.
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Post by carlin96 on Sept 28, 2016 17:18:22 GMT -5
[/quote] I concur Carlin. Never used happen when the team was good.
Also - welcome to the board, and love your avatar!
[/quote] Thanks. I've been a member since the early days but just re-registered.
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Post by breezy on Sept 28, 2016 17:23:37 GMT -5
From Twitter:
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Sept 28, 2016 19:13:11 GMT -5
I feel like PD breaking up the tailgate to get people inside the stadium has been going on since I was a student. Don't believe that's anything new. The ONLY thing that irked me this year was the sirens and megaphones briefly blaring from the baseball field during the game. And I was only annoyed because I was trying to follow the game and listen to what was being said on the PA.
Speaking of the PA, I found it tougher to hear than in the past. Is it just the new stadium voice or is it the equipment/acoustics? Our PA guy that left after 2010 was great - he was there dating back to at least 2006 when I got to campus. He also did a couple basketball games at the DCU.
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Post by hc2489 on Sept 28, 2016 20:44:47 GMT -5
Went to homecoming this year and was yelled at via megaphone to go to the game. I headed to go get a ticket with a classmate because we both spontaneously decided to go and had to wait in a line for 25 minutes to buy a ticket. Wonderful gameday experience.
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Post by unhfan on Sept 29, 2016 5:33:14 GMT -5
Call me crazy but why not get to the game for kickoff? We have the same issue at UNH and I don't get it. Drinking is that important that you can't get into the game for kickoff. Go support your team and have a beer afterwards if you must.
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Post by joe on Sept 29, 2016 5:54:29 GMT -5
I fully support people being told to get into the game by kickoff or shortly thereafter, same after the half. In the past too many people just sat in the parking lot and drank and never went into the game and we need people in the stands. That being said, I can understand the challenge for the WPD, who are law enforcers and not hospitality agents, in doing so both graciously and expeditiously. If I was subject to sirens and bullhorns I probably would have gotten pissed off myself.
Solution?
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Post by sader1970 on Sept 29, 2016 6:16:24 GMT -5
I think there should be a designated lot for people who have no interest or intention of attending the game and just want to socialize and drink. It should be no where near Fitton field so that those who do want to go to the game and tailgate before it and drink responsibly can do so close to the field. Perhaps the baseball field and garage? The non-attendees perhaps up near Hogan? Worcester PD would not have to harass anyone and could easily get some additional municipal revenue by sitting at the exits picking off the people who spent 3 hours doing nothing but drinking for DUIs. My "modest proposal."
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Post by matunuck on Sept 29, 2016 7:40:36 GMT -5
Enough of the nanny state. If some folks want to stay and tailgate until after kickoff or whenever so be it.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Sept 29, 2016 7:44:06 GMT -5
Call me crazy but why not get to the game for kickoff? We have the same issue at UNH and I don't get it. Drinking is that important that you can't get into the game for kickoff. Go support your team and have a beer afterwards if you must. I agree with you but the truth is tailgating at most any sporting event tends to bring people in after the start of the game. At 12:35 on Homecoming, when I announce to my friends that I am heading over to Fitton to buy my ticket, everyone looks at me like I have ten heads. My girlfriend also has given me a hard time for being quite the party-pooper at Stan's before Yankee games as I abruptly finish my last drink twenty minutes before game time and start heading in. Sader1970's proposal could work but the best solution would be to serve beer and wine at the stadium. Even then, I still feel that a ton of people won't go in for the game because they get caught up chatting with people they haven't seen in years on Freshman Field and probably don't care about football anyway. The school wants to make money by forcing people to buy tix and obviously wants the stadium to look somewhat full but some people just aren't into Homecoming because of the athletics side and they should be left alone to enjoy themselves however they please.
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Post by sader81 on Sept 29, 2016 8:39:00 GMT -5
As equally outrageous was the actions of security before halftime. I left my seat with 3 minutes to go and proceeded to the hat/shirt booth in the endzone and bought over $100 worth of goods to bring home. (I watched the punt giveaway TD from there!) As I tried to go to the baseball field to drop off my bag of HC garb with about a minute to go in the half, I was informed that I could not leave the stadium; and there were no ifs, ands, or buts about it. I guess RSIG Security is unaware of the tort known as false imprisonment.
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Post by sader1970 on Sept 29, 2016 9:19:25 GMT -5
My last post was half in jest and half serious. I understand and support the social aspects of the tailgate and especially Homecoming for those who don't get to the games on a regular basis. I am one of those unique individuals that I actually want to watch the game and cheer on my team. Nothing drives me more crazy than someone who maybe goes once a year, couldn't give a rat's a$$ about the game or the team, and wants to distract me during crucial moments and I miss a big play. I would love to talk and catch up about all those big and semi-big things in your life before the game or after the game, so come early for the tailgate not moments before kick-off. Or, we can go out somewhere after the game and chat all night. But tailgates, for me, means you are there to support the team - in the stadium, or in the Hart Center for basketball. . If you have no interest in the game, park up at Hogan and go to Crossroads or go to Breen's or Miss Woo or wherever else your favorite place might be. Don't take up a parking space on the baseball field or Freshman field for those who came for the football game. End of rant.
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Post by HC1843 on Sept 29, 2016 11:18:49 GMT -5
As equally outrageous was the actions of security before halftime. I left my seat with 3 minutes to go and proceeded to the hat/shirt booth in the endzone and bought over $100 worth of goods to bring home. (I watched the punt giveaway TD from there!) As I tried to go to the baseball field to drop off my bag of HC garb with about a minute to go in the half, I was informed that I could not leave the stadium; and there were no ifs, ands, or buts about it. I guess RSIG Security is unaware of the tort known as false imprisonment. did they physically restrain you, block you, or suggest that they would do so? Cheers.
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Post by Tom on Sept 29, 2016 11:27:35 GMT -5
I'm sure glad the RSIG security made my 5 year old empty his Poland Springs bottle too! Serious question - was the seal broken? I know at Fenway Park you're allowed to bring in bottled water or soda if the seal is intact but not if it's broken. I imagine the assumption is that if the seal is broken that you really don't know the contents of the bottle. It seems like a reasonable compromise Always a long line right at kick-off. If I'm on the baseball field and don't have a ticket, I'll either get one as soon as I arrive or if they're not open, grab my ticket an hour or so early when there's no line. If you're on freshman field you're out of luck Not an option. NCAA regulations prohibit sale of alcohol at on campus venues. That is why, even though there is no beer at Hart, there will be beer at the basketball and hockey games at the Centrum --------------------------------------------- In general, I think there's a double standard between the baseball field and freshman field. Since everyone parked on the baseball field is a season ticket holder, there are fewer people just hanging out and not moving towards the game, so historically security has been a little more gentile about prodding people inside. In years past I remember police/campus security car driving through and announcements being made over the car's PA. I don't recall that on the baseball field. That was a more individual suggestion to get it moving if you didn't look like you were packing up
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Post by Tom on Sept 29, 2016 11:33:04 GMT -5
As equally outrageous was the actions of security before halftime. I left my seat with 3 minutes to go and proceeded to the hat/shirt booth in the endzone and bought over $100 worth of goods to bring home. (I watched the punt giveaway TD from there!) As I tried to go to the baseball field to drop off my bag of HC garb with about a minute to go in the half, I was informed that I could not leave the stadium; and there were no ifs, ands, or buts about it. I guess RSIG Security is unaware of the tort known as false imprisonment. did they physically restrain you, block you, or suggest that they would do so? Cheers. There were a couple of security people blocking the gate and telling us we had to wait until half-time. When I arrived there there was less than a minute in the half and there was a semi circle of fans about 3 deep waiting for security to let us out. Heck - even the players are leaving the field, but we weren't allowed out until the clock reached 0:00
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Post by carlin96 on Sept 29, 2016 11:46:00 GMT -5
I'm sure glad the RSIG security made my 5 year old empty his Poland Springs bottle too! Serious question - was the seal broken? I know at Fenway Park you're allowed to bring in bottled water or soda if the seal is intact but not if it's broken. I imagine the assumption is that if the seal is broken that you really don't know the contents of the bottle. It seems like a reasonable compromise No the seal wasn't broken. Regardless, it was ridiculous. I've had season tickets forever. My father has had his seats for over 60 years. This is the 2nd or 3rd year now that season ticket holders have to pay to park on the baseball field - which is fine but let's allow some flexibility! I'm over it today, just had to vent, but I'm hoping the athletic department and security can soften their stance somewhat. Just trying to figure out the rest of the season (or several games) w/out Pujals!!!
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Post by sader81 on Sept 29, 2016 12:28:05 GMT -5
As equally outrageous was the actions of security before halftime. I left my seat with 3 minutes to go and proceeded to the hat/shirt booth in the endzone and bought over $100 worth of goods to bring home. (I watched the punt giveaway TD from there!) As I tried to go to the baseball field to drop off my bag of HC garb with about a minute to go in the half, I was informed that I could not leave the stadium; and there were no ifs, ands, or buts about it. I guess RSIG Security is unaware of the tort known as false imprisonment. did they physically restrain you, block you, or suggest that they would do so? Cheers. As Tom stated, we were blocked; and short of committing a breach of the peace, we were not getting out of the stadium. My days of making a scene over things like this are over, but I was a bit peeved. I could see someone in the future taking a stand and making a real issue out of it.
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Post by HC92 on Sept 29, 2016 12:35:12 GMT -5
Seems like NP needs to re-evaluate some of these policies and then issue an explanation for whatever policies are settled upon. If there's a good reason for some of the seemingly over-aggressive security measures, people would probably understand. In the absence of any explanation, people are going to wonder why little kids can't bring in their water bottle and why people can't leave the stadium with 0:10 left in the half.
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Post by hc87 on Sept 29, 2016 13:23:03 GMT -5
I don't think it's going to be much of an issue (in terms of #'s anyway) the rest of this Fall.
As I've said in the past on this issue, I know multiple people who either don't go or rarely go to Fitton anymore due to the tailgating policies.
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