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Post by purplehaze on Oct 15, 2020 12:09:31 GMT -5
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Post by rgs318 on Oct 15, 2020 12:11:25 GMT -5
Sad to hear...but this won't be the only such story this year.
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Post by hcpride on Oct 15, 2020 17:54:37 GMT -5
Turns out the test, test, test tactic utilized by Yale certainly doesn’t prevent college-age kids from catching covid. Yale tests every kid at least two times a week. Obviously, they’ll be fine given the scientific realities of covid and I’m sure nobody is surprised.
(Update: It is 18 players on the Yale men’s hockey team.)
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Post by hchoops on Oct 15, 2020 18:48:12 GMT -5
“Obviously“ ??
If so, I hope they have not infected, and will not infect, those for whom it is not so obvious.
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Post by hcpride on Oct 15, 2020 19:49:57 GMT -5
/\ Must be a great relief to hear they are not at home living with their parents (and maybe grandparents), circulating throughout their hometown, and doing the socializing and smooching young people do. Instead, they’ve been tested and are in quarantine at Yale.
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Post by hchoops on Oct 15, 2020 20:39:03 GMT -5
Yes it is.
It will be a better relief if none Have infected anyone such as a coach (See Nick Saban ) or staff member yet or are hospitalized themselves.
Must be good to be so positive about others’ health.
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Post by hcpride on Oct 15, 2020 20:54:31 GMT -5
/\ Maybe a staff member or elderly person spread covid to a college hockey player. Or spread it to someone who spread it to a hockey player. You never know. There’s a covid pandemic going on right now.
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Post by hchoops on Oct 15, 2020 20:55:54 GMT -5
How true
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Post by crossbball13 on Oct 15, 2020 22:48:12 GMT -5
/\ Maybe a staff member or elderly person spread covid to a college hockey player. Or spread it to someone who spread it to a hockey player. You never know. There’s a covid pandemic going on right now. The schtick has grown tired, pride. Golly if everyone was just as smart as you! |
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Post by WCHC Sports on Oct 16, 2020 8:32:22 GMT -5
Testing repeatedly doesn't do anything to stop infection. There's some hope or trust I am guessing that knowing who is infected will allow for isolation... but the virus seems to be too transmissible. We keep putting a boat with holes into the water, and testing every couple of days for leaks. Uh, leaks are going to happen.
I'm a broken record saying "IS ANYONE GETTING SICK?" Having COVID19 means lots of different things for lots of different people. We've spoken at length about young, healthy folks, infected, giving the virus to someone else who is not as hearty or lucky to fare well. Reasonable/fair. But among college athletes and their coaches? Among professional teams? It's akin to cancelling all operations because somebody as type AB blood. It's inside of them, and it's not affecting them, but they-- and all around them-- need to stay in isolation?
I'm all for mitigating risk. I'm not commuting to work for the last six months. Deliveries to the house. Masks, the works. I have asthma. Why risk it. But then again, if someone is healthy, who cares what they "have?"
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Post by hchoops on Oct 16, 2020 9:26:30 GMT -5
See Nick Saban and the SEC for some who were not as careful as you.
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Post by sader1970 on Oct 16, 2020 10:33:23 GMT -5
Thank God I have O+ blood! So, despite my age and diabetes, I believe I am immune to covid. Or, did I misread that news?
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Post by Tom on Oct 16, 2020 12:56:25 GMT -5
Testing repeatedly doesn't do anything to stop infection. There's some hope or trust I am guessing that knowing who is infected will allow for isolation... but the virus seems to be too transmissible. We keep putting a boat with holes into the water, and testing every couple of days for leaks. Uh, leaks are going to happen. As I understand it, the logic in testing kids twice a week is you find out who has it. The young athletic kids can be totally asymptomatic and unwittingly transmitting the disease for a couple of weeks. If students are tested twice a week, they likely will only be unwittingly transmitting it for a couple of days before getting quarantined. Testing does not stop the infection, but intelligent use of the data from testing can slow the spread. |
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Post by bison137 on Oct 16, 2020 14:20:20 GMT -5
Looking at Bucknell, I think there is also another benefit of testing. Students know that they will be tested and if they test positive, they will be put into a quarantine facility for 10+ days. Not a pleasant prospect - and a good reason to follow the rules. If it weren’t for the testing, infected students likely would have few or no symptoms and continue on in a normal fashion. Thus there might be less incentive to socially distance and wear masks appropriately.
Fwiw, Bucknell is testing everyone frequently and has had exactly one Covid case in the past month. Hopefully that will continue, although nothing is certain when it comes to Covid.
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Post by hcpride on Oct 16, 2020 15:55:50 GMT -5
Testing repeatedly doesn't do anything to stop infection. There's some hope or trust I am guessing that knowing who is infected will allow for isolation... but the virus seems to be too transmissible. We keep putting a boat with holes into the water, and testing every couple of days for leaks. Uh, leaks are going to happen. As I understand it, the logic in testing kids twice a week is you find out who has it. The young athletic kids can be totally asymptomatic and unwittingly transmitting the disease for a couple of weeks. If students are tested twice a week, they likely will only be unwittingly transmitting it for a couple of days before getting quarantined. Testing does not stop the infection, but intelligent use of the data from testing can slow the spread. Agreed. Some might be surprised how often Nick Saban and the football team are being tested at Alabama: Saban added that he was surprised by the diagnosis because he has taken every precaution to avoid contracting the virus.
According to sources, Saban is tested nearly every day, while Alabama's players, coaches and staff members are being administered PCR tests on Sundays, Tuesdays and Thursdays. Alabama previously tested the players daily following an initial spike when students returned to campus but has recently followed SEC protocols of three tests per week.
www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/30123045/business-usual-no-panic-alabama-nick-saban-positive-coronavirus-test |
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Post by lou on Oct 16, 2020 18:06:27 GMT -5
Positive tests are conclusive, negative tests are not
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Post by hcpride on Oct 17, 2020 15:17:22 GMT -5
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Post by purplehaze on Oct 17, 2020 16:00:33 GMT -5
According to sec protocols that positive in now considered a false positive in view of his three consecutive negatives Thursday-Friday and this morning
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Post by bison137 on Oct 17, 2020 16:04:14 GMT -5
According to sec protocols that positive in now considered a false positive in view of his three consecutive negatives Thursday-Friday and this morning A couple of recent reports stated that the rate of false positives for antigen tests is 0.6% or 0.8%. However if laboratories don't have rigid controls in place, that lab may turn out a much higher pct of false positives. |
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