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Nov 15, 2020 6:24:33 GMT -5
Post by Non Alum Dave on Nov 15, 2020 6:24:33 GMT -5
aah, bet you're right possum
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Nov 15, 2020 10:01:54 GMT -5
Post by sader1970 on Nov 15, 2020 10:01:54 GMT -5
Well, now if that's the correct answer, I'd have no shot at knowing it as his playing days were during my interregnum watching HC athletics having been in the hinterlands at the time.
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Nov 15, 2020 10:31:45 GMT -5
Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 15, 2020 10:31:45 GMT -5
Dwight Pernell is correct--led in steals for all four years he played
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Nov 15, 2020 10:42:09 GMT -5
Post by sader1970 on Nov 15, 2020 10:42:09 GMT -5
Who is Dwight Pernell? Never saw him!
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Nov 15, 2020 11:31:46 GMT -5
Post by rgs318 on Nov 15, 2020 11:31:46 GMT -5
1986-87 - 36 1987-88 - 55 1988-89 - 50 1989-90 - 63 Impressive, but I never saw him play either.
For one season, in 2006-07 Torey Thomas had 95 steals in 34 games, the year after Kevin Hamilton had 102 steals (after having years with 72 steals and 92 steals for a career total of 266 steals)
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Nov 15, 2020 12:13:27 GMT -5
Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 15, 2020 12:13:27 GMT -5
Who is Dwight Pernell? Never saw him! Nor did I. He stands #4 all-time in HC scoring, ahead of Tom Heinsohn. He was a great scorer and a tremendous three point shooter according to his stats
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Nov 15, 2020 12:15:41 GMT -5
Post by trimster on Nov 15, 2020 12:15:41 GMT -5
Who is Dwight Pernell? Never saw him! Very, very good guard from late in the Blaney Era who I believe is an HC Hall of Famer. Scored more than 2,000 points and was one of the leaders of a team that had an outstanding year in 89-90 which I believe was his senior year. He could play.
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Nov 15, 2020 12:22:24 GMT -5
Post by possum on Nov 15, 2020 12:22:24 GMT -5
Yes Pernell was a very good player. He was a slightly built lightening quick guard who led the team in scoring 3 of his 4 years. As Trimster mentioned the team in his senior year won 24 games and the MAAC regular season title. Unfortunately lost to Fordham in tournament then lost a first round NIT game.
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Post by trimster on Nov 15, 2020 12:33:09 GMT -5
Who is Dwight Pernell? Never saw him! the obvious Very, very good guard from late in the Blaney Era who I believe is an HC Hall of Famer. Scored more than 2,000 points and was one of the leaders of a team that had an outstanding year in 89-90 which I believe was his senior year. He could play. Correction. 1891 career points which is 4th all time. Outstanding shooting %, especially for a guard. 50.4% on field goals, 45.6% on threes, 81.7% on charity tosses. 17 ppg career wise. I think he is one of those guys like Vicens, Kissane, Doyle, McCaffrey, off the top of my head, for whom you'd say, "I would give him a look" if you were talking about names for the rafters beyond the obvious next group we have discussed.
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Nov 15, 2020 12:44:46 GMT -5
Post by trimster on Nov 15, 2020 12:44:46 GMT -5
Very, very good guard from late in the Blaney Era who I believe is an HC Hall of Famer. Scored more than 2,000 points and was one of the leaders of a team that had an outstanding year is n 89-90 which I believe was his senior year. He could play. Correction. 1891 career points which is 4th all time. Outstanding shooting %, especially for a guard. 50.4% on field goals, 45.6% on threes, 81.7% on charity tosses. 17 ppg career wise. I think he is one of those guys like Vicens, Kissane, Doyle, McCaffrey, off the top of my head, for whom you'd say, "I would give him a look" if you were talking about names for the rafters beyond the obvious next group we have discussed. Plus Wendelken. Knew he was good but didn't realize he averaged 19.5 ppg for his career. (He was also an excellent ss or 3rd sacker in baseball). OT, where have all those tremendous two sport athletes gone. Victim of specialization I guess. Very sad.
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Nov 15, 2020 12:49:57 GMT -5
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Nov 15, 2020 12:49:57 GMT -5
DP always seems to float under the radar (note my guess of Ant), but he was a really good player who got better each year.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 15, 2020 13:05:30 GMT -5
Correction. 1891 career points which is 4th all time. Outstanding shooting %, especially for a guard. 50.4% on field goals, 45.6% on threes, 81.7% on charity tosses. 17 ppg career wise. I think he is one of those guys like Vicens, Kissane, Doyle, McCaffrey, off the top of my head, for whom you'd say, "I would give him a look" if you were talking about names for the rafters beyond the obvious next group we have discussed. Plus Wendelken. Knew he was good but didn't realize he averaged 19.5 ppg for his career. (He was also an excellent ss or 3rd sacker in baseball). OT, where have all those tremendous two sport athletes gone. Victim of specialization I guess. Very sad. Wendy was a star SS. He was one of the gentlest, kindest (off the court, field) people I have known. If Lloyd Hinchey had not blown out his knee, he and Wendy would have rivaled Blaney-Shea as a super backcourt. www.nmnathletics.com/ViewArticle.dbml?&ATCLID=210238365&DB_OEM_ID=33100a very insightful article hudsonreporter.com/2018/05/20/their-winning-ways/
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Nov 15, 2020 13:09:26 GMT -5
Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 15, 2020 13:09:26 GMT -5
We sure have had a number of star basketball players who also played, or even starred at, baseball for HC: Perry SR, Perry Jr, Dwight Pernell (did not know about his baseball playing until today), Brian Reale, Billy Doran, John Wendelken,
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Post by hchoops on Nov 15, 2020 13:16:39 GMT -5
Add Bud Knittel, ‘65, classmate of Wendy, maybe not a star, but a solid 2 sport athlete Not hoops, but Tom Kelly, ‘67, a star in baseball and a solid defensive back who made the interception that led to the winning TD vs BC in ‘66.
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Post by efg72 on Nov 15, 2020 13:59:36 GMT -5
DP always seems to float under the radar (note my guess of Ant), but he was a really good player who got better each year. And a remarkable man -he lights up most rooms with his smile and personality. He lives in Northern Virginia and was my life insurance agent until he moved into a new career.
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Nov 15, 2020 16:15:36 GMT -5
Post by trimster on Nov 15, 2020 16:15:36 GMT -5
Add Bud Knittel, ‘65, classmate of Wendy, maybe not a star, but a solid 2 sport athlete Not hoops, but Tom Kelly, ‘67, a star in baseball and a solid defensive back who made the interception that led to the winning TD vs BC in ‘66. Phil ONeil and Pat Bourque, both football and baseball. The former played in the Cardinals organization, the latter with the A's.
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Nov 15, 2020 18:06:12 GMT -5
Post by timholycross on Nov 15, 2020 18:06:12 GMT -5
Yes Pernell was a very good player. He was a slightly built lightening quick guard who led the team in scoring 3 of his 4 years. As Trimster mentioned the team in his senior year won 24 games and the MAAC regular season title. Unfortunately lost to Fordham in tournament then lost a first round NIT game. George Blaney built the program back up from a lull in the mid 80s; Pernell was a big part of that. Only to have Fr. You Know Who sabotage all that by making the Patriot Leage an all-sports conference.
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Nov 16, 2020 0:16:35 GMT -5
Post by longsuffering on Nov 16, 2020 0:16:35 GMT -5
If George stayed at HC and retired the same year Ralph left for Louisville, do you think he would have had the same success as Willard or even brought HC past the first round of the NCAA tournament once scholarships had been restored and we had a fairly easy runway for a while in the PL?
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Post by hchoops on Nov 16, 2020 8:08:02 GMT -5
No need to compare two very good coaches who are also alums
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 16, 2020 18:50:48 GMT -5
Fine. My query was a bit of a loaded question. The comparison is a tie in my mind anyway as both coaches won at Holy Cross in the environments they were given while their replacements in similar environments did not, with an asterisk for Coach Carmody's PL Championship and NCAA win after a losing season. Coach Nelson has a chance to break out of that pattern, which is exciting to look forward to.
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Nov 16, 2020 19:49:38 GMT -5
Post by hchoops on Nov 16, 2020 19:49:38 GMT -5
Bill Raynor did not have the benefit of scholarships
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Nov 16, 2020 19:55:26 GMT -5
Post by rgs318 on Nov 16, 2020 19:55:26 GMT -5
That lack of scholarships is overlooked by some. Rough timing for him.
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Post by timholycross on Nov 16, 2020 21:15:09 GMT -5
Is the vulgarity necessary, especially when discussing a priest who has done so much for our college ? Changed it.
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Nov 16, 2020 22:43:38 GMT -5
Post by longsuffering on Nov 16, 2020 22:43:38 GMT -5
Bill Raynor did not have the benefit of scholarships Good point. I was able to follow HC fairly closely through Potter, Vicens, Perry and then got busy before having the chance to be a season ticket holder for most of the Willard and Brown years so I am a little fuzzy about the in between years. However, I do remember attending a game during the non-scholarship era and noting the difference from the teams that played in the Colonial Classics at Boston Garden and won against the best teams in New England.
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Nov 16, 2020 23:57:46 GMT -5
Post by timholycross on Nov 16, 2020 23:57:46 GMT -5
Bill Raynor did not have the benefit of scholarships Good point. I was able to follow HC fairly closely through Potter, Vicens, Perry and then got busy before having the chance to be a season ticket holder for most of the Willard and Brown years so I am a little fuzzy about the in between years. However, I do remember attending a game during the non-scholarship era and noting the difference from the teams that played in the Colonial Classics at Boston Garden and won against the best teams in New England. It put Bill in a terrible position while still trying to establish an identity as a coach. The talent just wasn't there for the most part. He was able to identify and recruit some players (Juan Pegues, Jared Curry, Ryan Serravalle, Pat Whearty, and a couple others) that were the backbone of RW's successful 01 and 02 champions....so not all went poorly.
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