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Post by hchoops on Nov 14, 2020 0:09:55 GMT -5
Another legend
Flaget HS, Louisville
UND
Green Bay Packers
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 14, 2020 0:24:43 GMT -5
He was a real legend here in Louisville, born and raised here, a three sport superstar at Flaget, and he returned here after his football career. Howard Schnellenberger was a high school teammate, I believe he was very successful in business--maybe real estate investments. I saw him often around town at favorite East End watering holes but never tried to engage with him. He was a regular at Churchill Downs. He would sell autographed pictures-one famous shot of himself & Lombardi-and donated the proceeds to the Lombardi Foundation. He golfed with his wife and lost to her regularly. In an interview he told local sportscaster Jody Demling, "Jody, I've lived my whole life on scholarship and it's been a damn good ride".
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 14, 2020 6:43:42 GMT -5
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 14, 2020 7:30:01 GMT -5
My his soul rest in peace and the accomplishments of his life (both inside and outside of sports) not be forgotten.
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Nov 14, 2020 7:51:21 GMT -5
In 1955, my Uncle Pat was a first team AP AA at ND when Hornung was a junior, playing qb and safety. The next year Hornung won the Heisman when ND was 2-8! Met him at Mardi Gras in 1967 (he was drafted by the Saints but never played a game for them). He asked me to pass on his regards to my Uncle who played guard and blocked for him.
P.S. Schnellenberger was also on that AA team in '55.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 14, 2020 8:06:49 GMT -5
My grammar school CYO coach in 1958-59 was a Bro. Duane, CFX(Xaverian brother)
He showed us a photo from his Flaget HS hoops team with himself and Paul Hornung.
We were duly impressed
i was at the December 1962 NFL Championship game at Yankee Stadium when his Packers beat my Giants, 16-7, on one of the two coldest games I have attended.
The other was a year later, HC over BC at Fitton. That was a much happier cold.
That 13-1 ‘62 Packer team was ranked the 5th best team in NFL history when the Sporting News did that ranking a few years ago.
Their average margin of victory was 19.1. Points
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Post by timholycross on Nov 14, 2020 14:25:49 GMT -5
IMHO the worst Giants loss in the NFCCG was the next year, to the Bears.
I wasn't old enough to experience the loss to the Colts in 1958, I can see where a lot of people would consider that one the worst one.
The 1961 and 62 Packers were just too good, although playing frozen tundra conditions was certainly to their advantage.
Hornung was perhaps the last position player to regularly place kick for a team, excluding George Blanda.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 14, 2020 14:28:43 GMT -5
I was at the ‘58 game
That was the worst.
Called by some “ The greatest game ever played”
Not for this young Giant fan
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Post by Xmassader on Nov 14, 2020 21:51:17 GMT -5
Alan “The Horse” Ameche with the winning TD.
One of many stars on both teams...Unitas, Lenny Moore, Raymond Berry, Gino Marchetti, Frank Gifford, Sam Huff, Rosey Brown et al.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 14, 2020 22:15:43 GMT -5
Alan “The Horse” Ameche with the winning TD. One of many stars on both teams...Unitas, Lenny Moore, Raymond Berry, Gino Marchetti, Frank Gifford, Sam Huff, Rosey Brown et al. Shh. |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 14, 2020 23:28:52 GMT -5
Alan “The Horse” Ameche with the winning TD. One of many stars on both teams...Unitas, Lenny Moore, Raymond Berry, Gino Marchetti, Frank Gifford, Sam Huff, Rosey Brown et al. and don't forget the tremendous Colt lineman Jim Parker, a true all-time great |
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Post by hchoops on Nov 14, 2020 23:35:54 GMT -5
And NY Giants first team All pros Jimmy Patton, Andy Robustelli, Ray Wietecha
DC—Tom Landry
OC— Vince Lombardi
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Post by nhteamer on Nov 19, 2020 16:07:39 GMT -5
when Jim lee Howell ended his run as Giants coach, they had three assistants from whom to pick
Tom Landry
Vince Lombardi
Allie Sherman
Boggles the mind that Sherman got the job.
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 19, 2020 16:59:07 GMT -5
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 19, 2020 18:20:59 GMT -5
As a young Giants fan ( all New England was “New York Football Giants” territory pre AFL) I remember the fans chanting “Goodbye Allie” when the Giants were finishing a disappointing loss
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Post by hchoops on Nov 19, 2020 18:28:09 GMT -5
How about an airplane flying over the stadium with the same phrase during a game !
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Post by timholycross on Nov 20, 2020 21:20:46 GMT -5
when Jim lee Howell ended his run as Giants coach, they had three assistants from whom to pick Tom Landry Vince Lombardi Allie Sherman Boggles the mind that Sherman got the job. Howell hung on a year or two more than he should have, Vince and Tom were gone already. Of course, they could have thrown a lot of money at one of them to come back, I guess. Not sure if it was Sherman that made the draft picks and the moves (like trading Sam Huff for a bag of balls) that decimated that team for the next 12-15 years; but both the Giants and the other Yankee Stadium tenant both fell apart at the same time. |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 20, 2020 22:51:33 GMT -5
Wikipedia reports it this way:
" The Giants then visited the championship under new coach Allie Sherman in 1961, 1962, and 1963, but lost every one of them. To improve what he thought was a defensive problem, Sherman then traded many defensive players, including Cliff Livingston, Rosey Grier, and Dick Modzelewski. After these trades, Huff went to owner Wellington Mara and was assured he would not be traded. But in 1964, Giants head coach Allie Sherman traded Huff to the Washington Redskins for defensive tackle Andy Stynchula and running back Dick James. The trade made front-page news in New York City and was greeted with jeers from Giants fans, who crowded Yankee Stadium yelling "Huff-Huff-Huff-Huff."
Stynchula played a couple of years for the Giants and then, about to become a free agent, went to Baltimore in a trade for Wendell Harris. Harris was a starter on defense for two years and then was out of the league at age 28.
James (who trades for a 30YO running back?) played one year for the Giants and then one for the Vikings
Huff was 1st team all-conference his first two years with the Redskins and was a starter for two more years, He retired but after one year on the beach he was talked out of retirement by new coach Vince Lombardi
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 22, 2020 0:14:14 GMT -5
Today's Courier Journal carried stories on Paul Hornung's funeral at St Louis Bertrand Church and some additional feature reporting on his life. I found some of the details interesting. I do understand that at this time of his death we are not going to hear negative stories. Still, I think it's appropriate to read some positive copy. The eulogist, a family friend , not a teammate, said Paul would have been happy with the one hour service and would have said "Let's get out of here. Let's get some dinner. Let's beat the rush. Go to Cracker Barrel, Red Lobster, Silvio's, Vincenzo's." He recalled a moment when Paul was in NY signing autographs at the NYSE and then visited a bar near Ground Zero. and afterwards went to the firehouse next door. He invited the firefighters to the Notre Dame-Navy game and provided the tickets, food, beverages, hotel, and two busses for the 40 fire fighters. Nice story. Catholic Charities sent out a release about how he was instrumental in leading the fund-raising at the Sister Visitor Center in his boyhood neighborhood (he grew up in the "Portland" neighborhood in a low-income part of Louisville) that helps the needy people of the area.
Another column told about how he sold his Heisman Trophy for $250,000 and started a fund at ND to help kids from Louisville pay for college expenses. The fund has grown to $709,000 and I guess it provides a few thousand $$$ for each Louisvillian at ND each year.
Great football player, colorful character, and a loyal son of Louisville.
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