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Post by cruskater31 on Oct 1, 2017 10:09:55 GMT -5
Richard Rodgers Sr. He is already in Mass for the Pats game
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Post by nhteamer on Oct 1, 2017 10:44:19 GMT -5
try for McGovern
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Post by rgs318 on Oct 1, 2017 10:55:51 GMT -5
I remember some folks early on saying that they would wait until the entire season as completed before taking a position on CTG. They did not say he should get an extension after the UNH win and they are silent now. I am in that group. At the end of the season I will make up my mind. Nothing is going to happen until then in any case....except perhaps on this board.
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Post by HC92 on Oct 1, 2017 11:00:55 GMT -5
I remember some folks early on saying that they would wait until the entire season as completed before taking a position on CTG. They did not say he should get an extension after the UNH win and they are silent now. I am in that group. At the end of the season I will make up my mind. Nothing is going to happen until then in any case....except perhaps on this board. Fair, and I want to be in the same group as you but yesterday was just too much to take.
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Post by rgs318 on Oct 1, 2017 11:09:42 GMT -5
I did say it was painful to watch. It was not a good game for many reasons, but it was one game. My enthusiasm has taken a major hit after that game, but I still try to be optimistic for the players.
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Post by hc811215 on Oct 1, 2017 11:19:33 GMT -5
I suppose if the team wins the remainder of its games and went 8-3 on the season his job might be safe. Unfortunately, after yesterday, that seems highly unlikely. Having made the drive from New York and tailgating on what appeared to me to be a very crowded Freshman field, I really was looking forward to the game. Just before half time with us up only 7-0, I said to my daughter's boyfriend that I was worried that we only had a 7 point lead. Many people left at half-time of what was a very boring game. I bet there was less than half the crowd still in the stands for the end of the game. It was a very frustrating game to watch. The defense played very well. the offense was just terrible. I am no expert on football but the play calling seemed atrocious throughout. There simply were too many errant long throws on first down. Also, Pujals seemed to be getting frustrated with his receivers being covered and him having to run for his life quite a bit. I believe we had only 79 yards in the second half. We had no turnovers and our defense had three interceptions of Lafayette and we still couldn't score more than 7 points. With the defense playing so well and the offense sputtering it is simply unfathomable how a D-1 head coach would go for it on 4th and 1 on his own 33 with less than two minutes to go. When we didn't make it, the few people left in the crowd just knew it was over. HC loses a game where it was not behind until the last play with time expiring. CTG is unrivaled in coaching teams that lose in unique ways at the last minute.
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Post by Ray on Oct 1, 2017 11:24:21 GMT -5
I remember some folks early on saying that they would wait until the entire season as completed before taking a position on CTG. They did not say he should get an extension after the UNH win and they are silent now. I am in that group. At the end of the season I will make up my mind. Nothing is going to happen until then in any case....except perhaps on this board. Seconded.
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Post by purple1 on Oct 1, 2017 12:49:53 GMT -5
Lee Hull, Richard Rodgers, Terry Malone would be a strong group of candidates to start with. I am sure some assistant head coaches from the Ivy would be in the mix as well. This has to occur as soon as possible to stabilize the program and recruit for next year. Tom Gilmore cannot get the job done on Saturdays, too many mistakes at crucial times and gets caught up with the officiating. Holy Cross football deserves much better......
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Post by ncaam on Oct 1, 2017 14:04:16 GMT -5
How is recruiting impacted by a firing now or at season end?
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Post by hcpride on Oct 1, 2017 14:31:24 GMT -5
Rob Sgarlata
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Post by realism on Oct 1, 2017 14:35:35 GMT -5
I remember some folks early on saying that they would wait until the entire season as completed before taking a position on CTG. They did not say he should get an extension after the UNH win and they are silent now. I am in that group. At the end of the season I will make up my mind. Nothing is going to happen until then in any case....except perhaps on this board. Seconded. With six games to go and a team that has the capacity to rise to the occasion in individual games, firing HCTG is by no means a foregone conclusion amongst the people charged with making the ultimate decision. By the way, as Ray points out, those people are not on this board posting. I believe Pine is not positively disposed to get rid of HCTG for a variety of reasons: 1. $'s- there isn't an open spigot to hire some hotshot and his assistants. 2. And $'s spent and attention diverted there take away from other existing and potential athletic projects. 3. The reality is that the transition period, with the challenging schedules facing the new hire and his team probably will be even more frustrating for fans in the first couple of years, whose 4. Before registering his own successful recruiting class, he's inheriting a pretty bare cupboard. 5. I'm not sure this is a positive for existing recruits, pipelines, etc. There are a lot of considerations on both sides of the argument. This is not a slam dunk decision. I think the remaining performance this season will weigh heavily on the decision. 3-8, 4-7, 5-6, 6-5, 7-4, 8-3 are all possible with this group's karma. ( But, should I generously assume a win over Georgetown at home is a given ? )
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Post by ncaam on Oct 1, 2017 14:38:56 GMT -5
I believe if you’re more as time left on his contract, then the decision must be made by father borrows not nate pine.
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Post by hchoops on Oct 1, 2017 14:41:01 GMT -5
Unrealism, 9-2 is not possible, 2-9 is.
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Post by realism on Oct 1, 2017 14:45:57 GMT -5
Unrealism, 9-2 is not possible, 2-9 is. Thanks, I caught it and corrected it.
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Post by Ray on Oct 1, 2017 16:25:22 GMT -5
I believe if you’re more as time left on his contract, then the decision must be made by father borrows not nate pine. You should probably learn how to spell the name of the president of the College....
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Post by ncaam on Oct 1, 2017 16:34:06 GMT -5
I believe if you’re more as time left on his contract, then the decision must be made by father borrows not nate pine. You should probably learn how to spell the name of the president of the College.... True enough. Should have been. I believe if Gilmore has time left on his contract, then a final decision must be made by father B, not nate pine.
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Post by alumnusdad on Oct 1, 2017 16:53:33 GMT -5
How is recruiting impacted by a firing now or at season end? Indeed this question always comes up at this time of year when CTG's true colors are clearly displayed. I believe that after consistently found wanting: fire him, now; start the search, now; hire the new coach two days after the season ends. The recruiting effort will recover quickly. It always does.
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Post by purplepassion80 on Oct 1, 2017 21:17:38 GMT -5
For recruiting purposes, I generally agree doing what LSU did a few years, if you are going to fire, then the sooner the better. The problem is with a very weak Patriot League this year (no one has a winning record) HC could be in it until the final weekend. I hear the Assumption HC is well respected by peer, players love him and has had success in Div III and now Div II. Could be a risk having never recruited in Div I. Anyone know of him? Also, I am most impressed by Dartmouth's Buddy Teens and how well coached his teams are. Anyone on that staff said to be looking?
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Post by purplepassion80 on Oct 1, 2017 21:28:54 GMT -5
opps. pardon the typo that of course should have been... "Buddy Teevans"
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Post by hc2489 on Oct 2, 2017 13:41:02 GMT -5
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Post by cruskater31 on Oct 2, 2017 18:26:03 GMT -5
Intriguing. I got to know Coach Rob when I worked at Gtown as he worked with us to arrange Masses for the team. I wonder how he would handle our schollies and recruiting as the situation for the Hoyas is much different with the schollies. In terms of character and motivation Sgarlata has no match. On field coaching he has done ok with what he has. I like Hull and Rodgers...especially if they like the area
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Post by actualfactual on Oct 3, 2017 19:42:10 GMT -5
Father Burroughs spoke at commencement, of course. He mentioned every aspect of college life I could think of, except athletics. I don't think he considers any sports program at HC important enough to fire any coach in mid-season. As obvious as Gilmore's shortcomings may be, it would not shock me to see him ride out his contract.
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Post by ncaam on Oct 3, 2017 20:10:27 GMT -5
Correct, no one at HC except under the most extreme conditions will be let go mid season. But they gotta be thinking ahead. Captain Obvious over and out.
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Post by rgs318 on Oct 4, 2017 8:04:49 GMT -5
Unrealism, 9-2 is not possible, 2-9 is. IMHO 9-3 is not realistic, but it is still possible. 2-9 is possible but not realistic.
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Post by cruskater31 on Oct 4, 2017 8:04:57 GMT -5
Correct, no one at HC except under the most extreme conditions will be let go mid season. But they gotta be thinking ahead. Captain Obvious over and out. The last game is the Lehigh game on Saturday Nov. 11. Should we be circling Monday, Nov. 13 on our calendar?!
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