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Fordham
Nov 7, 2021 14:29:49 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 7, 2021 14:29:49 GMT -5
Marco Siderman 141.7
Matt Sluka 124.7
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Post by efg72 on Nov 7, 2021 14:38:25 GMT -5
DeMorat has the experience, talent, and skills to pick us apart if given average time to look downfield. We must find ways to create pressure, contain Davis and Wilson on the ground, and not give up too much space to Carter, or allow Kokosiouls to get behind us.
It looked like Carter hurt his ankle in the third qtr and was on the sideline wearing an ankle brace??-- but not clear from the shot I saw that is the case
Defensively I think they will struggle against the run and pass, and if we let DeMorat have time this could be a high scoring affair
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Post by hcpride on Nov 7, 2021 14:46:21 GMT -5
At the risk of repeating myself, the fact DeMorat had 0 INTs and 25 TDs in his seven FCS games this year is almost unbelievable. Heck, the talented Merrimack QB had two INTs in the HC game alone.
His stat line in the 3-point Monmouth loss (he was obviously under pressure) is impressive: 352 yards, 3TDs, O Int, 44 ‘net’ yards rushing (a long of 24), 3 sacks. Monmouth shut down Fordham’s ground game. That might be our recipe for victory.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 7, 2021 14:49:18 GMT -5
Thus he is due for one or more Int vs the PL best D.
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 7, 2021 14:49:33 GMT -5
I almost (not quite, but almost) don't care if DeMorat throws for 1,000 yards next Saturday as long as we win.
DeMorat may be a "great" QB but really, what makes a QB great is if they win. He hasn't done that yet against the Crusaders. I did not realize that we have beaten the Rams every game since the Yankee Stadium debacle. That's 4 in a row. If anyone's got something to prove, it's Fordham.
Here's the results over the last 4 seasons against the Rams:
2017: Win 42-20 DeMorat: DNP 2018: Win 17-13 DeMorat: 32/53 273 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT, 4 sacks 2019: Win 49-27 DeMorat: 23/41 346 yards, 3 TD, 2 INT, 5 sacks 2020: Win 34-34 DeMorat: 39/56 440 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT, 2 sacks 3 year total: 94/150 (62.7%), 1,059 yards (353 yds avg), 6 TD, 3 INT, 11 sacks
Westin in his one game against us: 24/35 (68.6%) 259 yards 2 TD, 2 INT, 1 sack
So, if history is any gauge, DeMorat will throw all over the place but if we can put pressure on him, we may well get sacks and interceptions that will offset his yardage and TDs.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 7, 2021 14:53:47 GMT -5
Here's how we fared against common opponents MONMOUTH Fordham lost by 3 at home Holy Cross won by 30 on the road LAFAYETTE Fordham won by 1 on the road Holy Cross won by 25 at home LEHIGH Fordham won by 7 at home Holy Cross won by 19 on the road GEORGETOWN Fordham won by 21 on the road Holy Cross won by 34 at home I believe an objective analyst would say that HC outperformed Fordham against all four opponents. As much as I would like to feel warm and fuzzy reading this, I actually think Fordham presents some matchup issues on our defensive side of the ball that we haven't otherwise seen in PL play. We're not the type of team that operates well coming from behind. I hope Im wrong but I could easily see this game ending up as Harvard 2.0. But the element of CHAMPIONSHIP GAME I think goes in our favor. This is a pull out all the stops game. And I'm not one yo bet against Chesney in such an environment.
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 7, 2021 15:00:25 GMT -5
I almost (not quite, but almost) don't care if DeMorat throws for 1,000 yards next Saturday as long as we win. DeMorat may be a "great" QB but really, what makes a QB great is if they win. He hasn't done that yet against the Crusaders. I did not realize that we have beaten the Rams every game since the Yankee Stadium debacle. That's 4 in a row. If anyone's got something to prove, it's Fordham. Here's the results over the last 4 seasons against the Rams: 2017: Win 42-20 DeMorat: DNP 2018: Win 17-13 DeMorat: 32/53 273 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT, 4 sacks 2019: Win 49-27 DeMorat: 23/41 346 yards, 3 TD, 2 INT, 5 sacks 2020: Win 34-34 DeMorat: 39/56 440 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT, 2 sacks 3 year total: 94/150 (62.7%), 1,059 yards (353 yds avg), 6 TD, 3 INT, 11 sacks Westin in his one game against us: 24/35 (68.6%) 259 yards 2 TD, 2 INT, 1 sack So, if history is any gauge, DeMorat will throw all over the place but if we can put pressure on him, we may well get sacks and interceptions that will offset his yardage and TDs. The first number in his yardage totals each successive year has been 2,3,4. If he throws 500+ this year and we win, fine.
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Post by gks on Nov 7, 2021 15:01:30 GMT -5
Holy Cross is the most talented team in the Patriot League. I'm going to argue they are the best coached as well. They have played the toughest schedule in the Patriot League.
I know anything can happen but this stuff matters.
Fordham has a beat up defense. HC by 14.
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Fordham
Nov 7, 2021 15:05:06 GMT -5
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Post by hcpride on Nov 7, 2021 15:05:06 GMT -5
I almost (not quite, but almost) don't care if DeMorat throws for 1,000 yards next Saturday as long as we win. DeMorat may be a "great" QB but really, what makes a QB great is if they win. He hasn't done that yet against the Crusaders. I did not realize that we have beaten the Rams every game since the Yankee Stadium debacle. That's 4 in a row. If anyone's got something to prove, it's Fordham. Here's the results over the last 4 seasons against the Rams: 2017: Win 42-20 DeMorat: DNP 2018: Win 17-13 DeMorat: 32/53 273 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT, 4 sacks 2019: Win 49-27 DeMorat: 23/41 346 yards, 3 TD, 2 INT, 5 sacks 2020: Win 34-34 DeMorat: 39/56 440 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT, 2 sacks 3 year total: 94/150 (62.7%), 1,059 yards (353 yds avg), 6 TD, 3 INT, 11 sacks Westin in his one game against us: 24/35 (68.6%) 259 yards 2 TD, 2 INT, 1 sack So, if history is any gauge, DeMorat will throw all over the place but if we can put pressure on him, we may well get sacks and interceptions that will offset his yardage and TDs. The first number in his yardage totals each successive year has been 2,3,4. If he throws 500+ this year and we win, fine. Hopefully we don’t see him a 5th year if that prediction/pattern holds. 🙂
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Fordham
Nov 7, 2021 15:45:42 GMT -5
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 7, 2021 15:45:42 GMT -5
Holy Cross is the most talented team in the Patriot League. I'm going to argue they are the best coached as well. They have played the toughest schedule in the Patriot League. I know anything can happen but this stuff matters. Fordham has a beat up defense. HC by 14. As far as toughest schedule, I think Fordham takes the cake. Nebraska Florida Atlantic Stony Brook Monmouth Wagner (OK, heres the cupcake)
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 7, 2021 16:01:25 GMT -5
I thought it might be interesting, in addition to looking at the scores which we did earlier, to see how HC and Fordham did in moving the ball & keeping the opponent from moving the ball against our four common opponents. I'll save posters some time and effort by acknowledging that "the game will be won on the football field and not on paper" and that "it's the score that counts, not the yardage". Got it.
Four common opponents: Monmouth, Lehigh, Georgetown, Lafayette
Ground Game
Fordham rushed 123 times for 648 yards or 5.3 yards per carry Holy Cross rushed 162 times for 774 yards or 4.8 yards per carry
Fordham opponents rushed 171 times for 713 yards or 4.2 yards per carry Holy Cross opponents rushed 127 times for 145 yards or 1.1 yards per carry (as always, we note that NCAA deducts sacked yardage from rushing)
Passing Game
Fordham completed 99 of 164 attempts for 1,331 yards:60.0% completion percentage and 8.1 yards per attempt Holy Cross completed 82 of 116 attempts for 999 yards: 70.6 % completion percentage and 8.6 yards per attempt
Fordham Opponents completed 97 of 141 attempts for 1,221 yards: 68.8% completion percentage and 8.7 yards per attempt Holy Cross Opponents completed 67 of 118 attempts for 644 yards: 56,7% completion percentage and 5.5 yards per attempt
Total Yardage
Fordham 1,979 yards versus 1,934 for opponents= + 45 yards for Fordham Holy Cross 1,773 yards versus 789 for opponents= + 984 yards for Holy Cross
That Crusader defense is something special, indeed
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Nov 7, 2021 16:02:33 GMT -5
Just wondering if the Fordham board is as pessimistic about their chances to win. I agree with everything gks wrote except the toughest schedule part. A fairly comfortable win by HC.
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Fordham
Nov 7, 2021 16:07:56 GMT -5
Post by gks on Nov 7, 2021 16:07:56 GMT -5
Just wondering if the Fordham board is as pessimistic about their chances to win. I agree with everything gks wrote except the toughest schedule part. A fairly comfortable win by HC. Nebraska game IMO doesn't matter....nothing but a giant paycheck. I'll take HC's non-league schedule....when you play rivals games are tougher. Just my opinion. I don't know how you haven't watched HC the last month and have anything but the utmost confidence.
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Fordham
Nov 7, 2021 16:15:21 GMT -5
Post by hchoops on Nov 7, 2021 16:15:21 GMT -5
I thought it might be interesting, in addition to looking at the scores which we did earlier, to see how HC and Fordham did in moving the ball & keeping the opponent from moving the ball against our four common opponents. I'll save posters some time and effort by acknowledging that "the game will be won on the football field and not on paper" and that "it's the score that counts, not the yardage". Got it. Four common opponents: Monmouth, Lehigh, Georgetown, Lafayette Ground GameFordham rushed 123 times for 648 yards or 5.3 yards per carry Holy Cross rushed 162 times for 774 yards or 4.8 yards per carry Fordham opponents rushed 171 times for 713 yards or 4.2 yards per carry Holy Cross opponents rushed 127 times for 145 yards or 1.1 yards per carry (as always, we note that NCAA deducts sacked yardage from rushing) Passing GameFordham completed 99 of 164 attempts for 1,331 yards:60.0% completion percentage and 8.1 yards per attempt Holy Cross completed 82 of 116 attempts for 999 yards: 70.6 % completion percentage and 8.6 yards per attempt Fordham Opponents completed 97 of 141 attempts for 1,221 yards: 68.8% completion percentage and 8.7 yards per attempt Holy Cross Opponents completed 67 of 118 attempts for 644 yards: 56,7% completion percentage and 5.5 yards per attempt Total Yardage
Fordham 1,979 yards versus 1,934 for opponents= + 45 yards for FordhamHoly Cross 1,773 yards versus 789 for opponents= + 984 yards for Holy CrossThat Crusader defense is something special, indeed Thanks, Ky, as usual Do you have the fumble-interception numbers ?
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Post by thecrossisback on Nov 7, 2021 16:19:20 GMT -5
Do people realize how many touchdowns our defense has given up in PL play this year?
Colgate scored on a kickoff return. That was it. Lafayette scored on a pick six. That was it. Lehigh scored on a drive that started at the 9 yard line. That was it. Georgetown scored twice once late.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 7, 2021 16:21:14 GMT -5
Fordham will not have been punched in the mouth like our defense will do on Saturday since Sep. 18.
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Fordham
Nov 7, 2021 16:21:55 GMT -5
Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 7, 2021 16:21:55 GMT -5
I thought it might be interesting, in addition to looking at the scores which we did earlier, to see how HC and Fordham did in moving the ball & keeping the opponent from moving the ball against our four common opponents. I'll save posters some time and effort by acknowledging that "the game will be won on the football field and not on paper" and that "it's the score that counts, not the yardage". Got it. Four common opponents: Monmouth, Lehigh, Georgetown, Lafayette Ground GameFordham rushed 123 times for 648 yards or 5.3 yards per carry Holy Cross rushed 162 times for 774 yards or 4.8 yards per carry Fordham opponents rushed 171 times for 713 yards or 4.2 yards per carry Holy Cross opponents rushed 127 times for 145 yards or 1.1 yards per carry (as always, we note that NCAA deducts sacked yardage from rushing) Passing GameFordham completed 99 of 164 attempts for 1,331 yards:60.0% completion percentage and 8.1 yards per attempt Holy Cross completed 82 of 116 attempts for 999 yards: 70.6 % completion percentage and 8.6 yards per attempt Fordham Opponents completed 97 of 141 attempts for 1,221 yards: 68.8% completion percentage and 8.7 yards per attempt Holy Cross Opponents completed 67 of 118 attempts for 644 yards: 56,7% completion percentage and 5.5 yards per attempt Total Yardage
Fordham 1,979 yards versus 1,934 for opponents= + 45 yards for FordhamHoly Cross 1,773 yards versus 789 for opponents= + 984 yards for Holy CrossThat Crusader defense is something special, indeed Thanks, Ky, as usual Do you have the fumble-interception numbers ? I'll check that and come back Okay--some more data from HC & Fordham's games versus the four common opponents FumblesFordham lost zero fumbles while its opponents lost 2= Fordham +2 turnover advantage Holy Cross lost 2 fumbles while its opponents lost 1= Holy Cross 1 turnover disadvantage InterceptionsFordham threw 0 interceptions and picked off 2= Fordham + 2 turnover advantage Holy Cross threw 2 interceptions and picked off 5= Holy Cross + 3 turnover advantage PenaltiesFordham was penalized 32 times for 297 yards Fordham Opponents were penalized 24 times for 191 yards Fordham disadvantage= 8 penalties for 106 yards Holy Cross was penalized 28 times for 223 yards HC opponents were penalized 26 times for 251 yards HC has a disadvantage of 2 penalties but an advantage of 28 yards. Third Down ConversionsFordham = 32 for 52= 62% Fordham Opponents= 23 for 53= 43% Holy Cross= 24 for 51= 47% HC Opponents= 16 for 56= 29% Fourth Down ConversionsFordham= 2 for 6= 33% Fordham Opponents= 2 for 7= 29% Holy Cross= 4 for 5= 80% HC Opponents= 2 for 9= 22% Again we see what an extraordinarily effective defense HC has
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Fordham
Nov 7, 2021 16:21:59 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 7, 2021 16:21:59 GMT -5
Our lowest margin of victory in the last month was 19 vs Lehigh. Lehigh snatched defeat from the jaws of victory at Fordham 35-28.
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Post by Ignutz on Nov 7, 2021 19:27:18 GMT -5
Fordham will not have been punched in the mouth like our defense will do on Saturday since Sep. 18. Defensively, I think we’ve improved every week - especially in the secondary. Offensively, I’ll bet that there are a few arrows in the quiver that haven’t been drawn to date, saving ‘em ‘til they’re absolutely needed - which they really haven’t been yet. Let’s go-o-o-o-o!!!
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Post by Bleed Purple on Nov 7, 2021 20:12:52 GMT -5
If next Saturdays game were to be held at Fitton, how many folks do you think would attend? Given good weather and a consequential game, I suspect we would draw 12k+. Wahtcha think?
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Fordham
Nov 7, 2021 20:19:29 GMT -5
Post by rgs318 on Nov 7, 2021 20:19:29 GMT -5
I would hope so, but I would be pleased with just over 10,000.
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Fordham
Nov 7, 2021 20:21:45 GMT -5
Post by hchoops on Nov 7, 2021 20:21:45 GMT -5
8-10
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 7, 2021 21:16:18 GMT -5
Fordham will not have been punched in the mouth like our defense will do on Saturday since Sep. 18. Defensively, I think we’ve improved every week - especially in the secondary. Offensively, I’ll bet that there are a few arrows in the quiver that haven’t been drawn to date, saving ‘em ‘til they’re absolutely needed - which they really haven’t been yet.
Let’s go-o-o-o-o!!! e.g. finally throwing to our tight ends in the Lafayette game
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Nov 7, 2021 21:20:29 GMT -5
Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 7, 2021 21:20:29 GMT -5
We'd probably draw around 9-10K for Fordham for a "championship game" in mid-November. Obviously less with subpar weather. Because of this the Lafayette game in 2009 drew under 6,000. That was sustained moderate to heavy rain before, during and after the game.
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Fordham
Nov 8, 2021 5:59:17 GMT -5
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Post by HC92 on Nov 8, 2021 5:59:17 GMT -5
Here’s what NBC NY currently shows for a Saturday forecast:
Rain showers early with some sunshine later in the day. High 58. Winds WNW at 5-10 mph. Chance of rain 40%.
They are also saying half an inch of rain Friday so the weather may be okay for fans at game time but the track will definitely be wet.
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