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Post by deep Purple on Dec 5, 2021 10:11:08 GMT -5
Alabama vs Cincinnati
Michigan vs Georgia
Seems kind of obvious. The powers that be don't want Alabama and Georgia to play twice in a row. Overrated Georgia should be bounced IMO after getting blown out yesterday. Notre Dame should be in at #4 but they're not going to drop Georgia from #1 to #5 even though they should.
Any thoughts on this?
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 5, 2021 10:25:57 GMT -5
I’ll chime in. I don’t care about FBS, FCS is more important and interesting to me. I know I’m in the minority among the general population.
I watched the first half of SDSU-Sac State. While I’m not sure about Dakota, it looked like we could have taken Sac State.
Just too bad that couldn’t happen.
Will be interesting how Villanova does against SDSU. Normally I would root for the Wildcats in this matchup but I felt they played really dirty against us and got away with assault if not murder.
Selfishly, I suppose we should hope Villanova does well and beats South Dakota soundly to make us look better in any final poll.
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Post by timholycross on Dec 5, 2021 10:36:48 GMT -5
ND's loss to Cinci has to be discounted as much as Georgia's loss to Alabama. One being later in the season can't drag a team down more than one a month in.
So at that point you have to compare Georgia's victories to ND's; and Georgia's are more significant. No fault of ND's, who woulda thunk when their schedule was put together (long ago) that the likes of FSU, Va Tech, USC and Stanford would be so mediocre? Their best win was Wisconsin.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 5, 2021 10:45:45 GMT -5
Here's what Sagarin has for Strength of Schedule for the four teams
Alabama = 12-1 vs #7 schedule
Michigan= 12-1 vs #31
Georgia= 12-1 vs #35
Cincinnati=13-0 vs # 82
Notre Dame= 11-1 vs #41
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Post by mm67 on Dec 5, 2021 11:24:14 GMT -5
I’ll chime in. I don’t care about FBS, FCS is more important and interesting to me. I know I’m in the minority among the general population. I watched the first half of SDSU-Sac State. While I’m not sure about Dakota, it looked like we could have taken Sac State. Just too bad that couldn’t happen. Will be interesting how Villanova does against SDSU. Normally I would root for the Wildcats in this matchup but I felt they played really dirty against us and got away with assault if not murder. Selfishly, I suppose we should hope Villanova does well and beats South Dakota soundly to make us look better in any final poll. Actually, my interest is focused on the PL and IL. I fondly remember going with my Dad to Brown-Columbia at the old Baker Field in the '50's.At one time regional rivalries were more prominent. (Eastern Football, Lambert Bowl) Today FB is almost entirely national in scope. FBS seeding does not interest me but I must admit to enjoying some FBS games - the 4 team playoffs, SEC championship game, OSU-Michigan, ND-USC, Army-Navy, some Bowl games and a few others - guilty pleasures for sure. |
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Post by deep Purple on Dec 5, 2021 11:25:42 GMT -5
Georgia plays in the very mediocre SEC East and their out of conference schedule consists of Clemson (down year) a terrible Georgia Tech team, UAB and FCS Charleston Southern.
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Post by mm67 on Dec 5, 2021 11:28:58 GMT -5
ND is not getting into the Final Four. It might be fun to see how they do in a Bowl game against a # 6 team.
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Post by HC92 on Dec 5, 2021 16:19:15 GMT -5
My interest in the FBS playoff is low at best.
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 5, 2021 16:33:27 GMT -5
I'd put my interest level in the FBS playoffs at about the same level as my interest in NLF All-Star Games.  |
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Post by mm67 on Dec 5, 2021 18:01:57 GMT -5
I live in NY. Have you followed the bottom feeding NY NFL teams? Might as well watch professional FBS powerhouses. Some of us(Yankees fans?) regularly sell our souls for great teams. Lost my soul to football decades ago.  |
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Post by cruskater31 on Dec 5, 2021 19:30:01 GMT -5
Nothing surprises me. I was wondering how long, with Cincy's strength of schedule, TPTB would try to keep them out. If OkSt had won their title game, there was a chance they would get the 4 seed over Cincy. I always love an underdog story, however, for some reason the Cincy's and UCF's of the world always seem like cry babies. Part of me hopes Bama rolls them by 30 or 40. I have a former student who is a freshman (3rd string maybe?) TE at Michigan so go Blue!
Anyone see the non-playoff matchups? Some odd ones. 10 win teams Wake, OU, Oregon not on New Year's Day and Virginia vs Southern Methodist from Fenway Park?
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Post by mm67 on Dec 5, 2021 20:56:37 GMT -5
ND vs OkStU Both teams are hungry & angry with something to prove. Should be fun.
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Post by gks on Dec 5, 2021 21:01:14 GMT -5
The BCS playoff system has become mostly a regional tournament. Two midwest and two southern teams this year. No nationwide appeal at all.
Oh yeah and it also killed the bowl games.
Time for the NCAA to step in and have a real playoff that mirrors the FCS.
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Post by thecrossisback on Dec 5, 2021 21:07:22 GMT -5
Most lame college sports tournament in the country. FBS playoff.
Fenway park SMU vs Virginia any guesses on attendance for that?
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 5, 2021 22:01:00 GMT -5
Most lame college sports tournament in the country. FBS playoff. Fenway park SMU vs Virginia any guesses on attendance for that? 12,000 shivering out of towners taking photos of the Green Monster with their phones? |
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Post by matunuck on Dec 5, 2021 22:22:46 GMT -5
I’ll be honest. I only care about the FCS playoffs to the extent HC is in the mix. Once gone so is my interest. I went to the Cinn-Navy game earlier this year. If they keep the score within 4 TDs against Bama, I’ll be surprised.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 5, 2021 22:37:14 GMT -5
4 TD's seems a bit harsh--Sagarin's ratings would have Alabama favored by 10 on a neutral field
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 6, 2021 10:26:57 GMT -5
Most lame college sports tournament in the country. FBS playoff. Fenway park SMU vs Virginia any guesses on attendance for that? 12,000 shivering out of towners taking photos of the Green Monster with their phones? Attendance will hinge on ability of UVA to get a strong turnout from NY and Boston area alum. The majority of their alumni base ends up in DC which is certainly a long trip. It's the first bowl game in Boston so my guess is the marketing partners entice a decent turnout (I'll say 25K). But after that novelty wears off, going forward this bowl is going to have to bank on BC winning 6 games. |
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 6, 2021 10:40:43 GMT -5
Alabama vs Cincinnati Michigan vs Georgia Seems kind of obvious. The powers that be don't want Alabama and Georgia to play twice in a row. Overrated Georgia should be bounced IMO after getting blown out yesterday. Notre Dame should be in at #4 but they're not going to drop Georgia from #1 to #5 even though they should. Any thoughts on this? Your the first person that's not a totally in-the-tank Notre Dame homer that I've heard advocate that they should be in the playoff. Did you see Notre Dame's schedule this year? Cincinnati is the weakest of the 4 in the playoff -- and they beat Notre Dame in South Bend. According to Sagarin CFP #3 ranked Georgia would be 9 pt favorites over CFP #4 ranked Cincinnati on a neutral field. Quick question: how has Notre Dame done historically in the College Football Playoff or BCS Bowl games against the SEC the last 15 years? |
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 6, 2021 10:46:48 GMT -5
The BCS playoff system has become mostly a regional tournament. Two midwest and two southern teams this year. No nationwide appeal at all. Oh yeah and it also killed the bowl games. Time for the NCAA to step in and have a real playoff that mirrors the FCS. The big boys will never allow for a playoff run by the NCAA to come forth. I do think that the playoff would be a lot more appealing if AT LEAST the champs of the five major conferences + the top G5 team all were represented. Gets a little old when the CFP year after year is composed of the same 6 or 7 schools. Michigan and Cincinnati being in should help ratings this year. |
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 6, 2021 11:06:13 GMT -5
12,000 shivering out of towners taking photos of the Green Monster with their phones? Attendance will hinge on ability of UVA to get a strong turnout from NY and Boston area alum. The majority of their alumni base ends up in DC which is certainly a long trip. It's the first bowl game in Boston so my guess is the marketing partners entice a decent turnout (I'll say 25K). But after that novelty wears off, going forward this bowl is going to have to bank on BC winning 6 games. Future BC fan to his buddy: "Why are we freezing in the shade under the roof at Fenway with Binoculars when we could be in the sun in our regular seats at Alumni Field?" |
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Post by deep Purple on Dec 8, 2021 10:47:50 GMT -5
Alabama vs Cincinnati Michigan vs Georgia Seems kind of obvious. The powers that be don't want Alabama and Georgia to play twice in a row. Overrated Georgia should be bounced IMO after getting blown out yesterday. Notre Dame should be in at #4 but they're not going to drop Georgia from #1 to #5 even though they should. Any thoughts on this? Your the first person that's not a totally in-the-tank Notre Dame homer that I've heard advocate that they should be in the playoff. Did you see Notre Dame's schedule this year? Cincinnati is the weakest of the 4 in the playoff -- and they beat Notre Dame in South Bend. According to Sagarin CFP #3 ranked Georgia would be 9 pt favorites over CFP #4 ranked Cincinnati on a neutral field. Quick question: how has Notre Dame done historically in the College Football Playoff or BCS Bowl games against the SEC the last 15 years? I'm just not a fan of two SEC teams being included, especially when one of them had just gotten blown out by the other. Sagarin shmagarin. Georgia's schedule isnt anything great either and Notre Dame doesn't schedule fcs teams. At least ND tried to put a competitive schedule together. The SEC East is mediocre. Unfortunately, there weren't any other one loss teams to make an argument. |
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 8, 2021 12:12:38 GMT -5
Your the first person that's not a totally in-the-tank Notre Dame homer that I've heard advocate that they should be in the playoff. Did you see Notre Dame's schedule this year? Cincinnati is the weakest of the 4 in the playoff -- and they beat Notre Dame in South Bend. According to Sagarin CFP #3 ranked Georgia would be 9 pt favorites over CFP #4 ranked Cincinnati on a neutral field. Quick question: how has Notre Dame done historically in the College Football Playoff or BCS Bowl games against the SEC the last 15 years? , especially when one of them had just gotten blown out by the other. Sagarin shmagarin. Georgia's schedule isnt anything great either and Notre Dame doesn't schedule fcs teams. At least ND tried to put a competitive schedule together. The SEC East is mediocre. Unfortunately, there weren't any other one loss teams to make an argument. Time and time again, the SEC has proved that it has been by no means been over-represented in the College Football Playoff. SEC East was somewhat weak with Florida, Missouri and South Carolina being down...and Vanderbilt had an absolutely awful team even for Vanderbilt standards. However, Georgia did play and beat both Auburn and Arkansas from the West. And Kentucky is actually a good football team now. Notre Dame's biggest wins were Wisconsin and North Carolina. After that, it's a lot of mush. Because of the ACC scheduling agreement, their SOS took a hit because of how bad that league was this year. Florida State, Virginia, Virginia and Georgia Tech were their other 4 ACC games. Their traditional West Coast rivals, USC and Stanford were both mediocre. Too bad no Michigan or Michigan or Michigan State on the schedule this year. This is why I the CFP needs to be expanded -- it's ridiculous that a team can win one of the P5 conferences and not have the shot to compete for a national title. And 11-1 Notre Dame with only loss to #3 Cincinnati absolutely deserves the shot to compete....but unfortunately there are only 4 slots and they are clearly not one of the top 4 teams based on the 2021 resume. I've always said, "the players don't make the schedules" and shouldn't be penalized because they played against a weak(er) slate and beat everyone. But 4 playoff slots is 4 playoff slots. |
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Post by hc87 on Dec 8, 2021 14:24:21 GMT -5
Missouri in the SEC East.....more crazy college sports geography
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