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Post by lou on Feb 14, 2022 10:31:05 GMT -5
A review, from a 68 year old Rap Takes Over Super Bowl Halftime, Balancing Celebration and Protest Rap Takes Over Super Bowl Halftime, Balancing Celebration and Protest nyti.ms/34wBIct
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Post by CHC8485 on Feb 14, 2022 10:51:51 GMT -5
So, now you've told us over the years that you don't like rap, country music or NASCAR. It turns out that we have more in common than I thought. (I'm hoping you come around on soccer.) I made dinner during half time and missed the whole thing. I don't like most country music but recognize that many of the performers are talented. I just don't see that with rap/hip hop. I remember when the great Lou Rawls was asked about Rap and he answered "that's not music". I think Lawrence Welk said the same thing about Rock & Roll!
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 14, 2022 11:14:06 GMT -5
"Remember: Serutan spelled backward is Natures"
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 14, 2022 11:20:57 GMT -5
I made dinner during half time and missed the whole thing. A wise choice. My buddy and I did the same thing.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Feb 14, 2022 11:53:24 GMT -5
I don't like most country music but recognize that many of the performers are talented. I just don't see that with rap/hip hop. I remember when the great Lou Rawls was asked about Rap and he answered "that's not music". I think Lawrence Welk said the same thing about Rock & Roll! They still sell Geritol? I sure feel like I could use some these days.
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 14, 2022 12:11:56 GMT -5
I think Lawrence Welk said the same thing about Rock & Roll! They still sell Geritol? I sure feel like I could use some these days. "And a vun and a two"😊
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Post by Tom on Feb 14, 2022 13:51:49 GMT -5
I don't like most country music but recognize that many of the performers are talented. I just don't see that with rap/hip hop. I remember when the great Lou Rawls was asked about Rap and he answered "that's not music". I think Lawrence Welk said the same thing about Rock & Roll! channeling the Progressive ads about turning into your parents. . . My parents used to claim that rock and roll wasn't music because it had no melody. While I disagree and say there is a melody in rock, I channel my parents and say there is no melody in rap, and as such is not music. It has a rhythm, but rhythm isn't melody
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Post by Crucis#1 on Feb 14, 2022 14:10:28 GMT -5
I have a remote family connection to Lawrence Welk. But no one will care, but I will share anyway.
My grandchildren’s, great great grandmother ( son-in-law side) was a grammar and high school classmate of Lawrence Welk, in Strasbourg, South Dakota, and as the story goes, they always were seen in each other’s company. Ironically, my grandchildren’s, great grandmother had the same first name as Lawrence’s wife. We always wondered “why”.
How’s that for a convoluted story, that is of no interest to anyone. But I enjoy the Kevin Bacon game of six degrees of separation. 🤔🤣.Many of us have only one degree of separation from Coach Duff.
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Post by Tom on Feb 14, 2022 14:17:24 GMT -5
I have a remote family connection to Lawrence Welk. But no one will care, but I will share anyway. My grandchildren’s, great great grandmother ( son-in-law side) was a grammar and high school classmate of Lawrence Welk, in Strasbourg, South Dakota, and as the story goes, they always were seen in each other’s company. Ironically, my grandchildren’s, great grandmother had the same first name as Lawrence’s wife. We always wondered “why”. How’s that for a convoluted story, that is of no interest to anyone. But I enjoy the Kevin Bacon game of six degrees of separation. 🤔🤣.Many of us have only one degree of separation from Coach Duff. Similar story. My uncle (HC class of '50) was med school room mate at Marquette with Welk's son. Family legend has it, it was a great graduation party with Lawrence Welk playing the piano accompanying all the Irish people singing
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 14, 2022 14:18:41 GMT -5
My grandfather (you know, the ex-Jesuit), was a hot-shot regional sales manager for J.B. Williams who made Geritol and also Aqua-Velva. He had a closet full of that stuff. My other grandfather, from Ireland, thought that Geritol was nothing more than a scam. I had no clue J.B. Williams was based in Glastonbury, CT until about 3 years ago and the darn place has a museum as I believe they've long since gone out of business. One son went there and came up with a bunch of pictures of my grandfather and the guy we all knew as a strict disciplinarian, former Jebbie, apparently had another facet of his life. Betting Crucis knows about J.B. Williams! [edit since reading Crucis post: My former Jesuit grandfather was first cousins with academy award winner Walter Brennan and grew up with him]
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Post by Crucis#1 on Feb 14, 2022 14:38:39 GMT -5
I agree, I could use some Geritol! Too bad you don’t have the family equivalent of a Geritol Wine cellar.😊
So here is the story about J.B. Williams from the Hartford Courant. Hope I never again have to smell Aqua Velva in a room.
J.B. WILLIAMS PUT SOAP, GLASTONBURY ON THE MAP Oct 09, 1998 at 12:00 am Remember the Aqua Velva Man? He was from Glastonbury -- or at least that "soothing" after-shave lotion was.
And Ivory Soap might have been from the town, too, if the local manufacturer of Ivorine hadn't sold the name to Proctor & Gamble.
Glastonbury was once known worldwide as the home of the J.B. Williams Co., the nation's first soap factory and perhaps the world's first maker of shaving soap.
The extensive Williams clan became a major political and philanthropic power in the town for several generations. They built a cluster of houses near the factory complex, the current home of a condominium and the Glastonbury Board of Education.
James Baker Williams, the man behind the bubbles, was born on a farm in Lebanon in 1818. One of his ancestors was a Connecticut signatory of the Declaration of Independence. Others were preachers, doctors, farmers.
By 1832, at the age of 14, J.B. had tired of the rural life, moved to Manchester, and went to work at a grocery and drugstore on the village green. At age 20, he became a partner, and a short time later, took over the business with his brother George.
By then, James had started experimenting with soaps, trying to make them powerful yet mild, efficient yet with a pleasing odor. He also searched for the perfect shaving soap, one that would produce a full, rich, long-lasting lather. He soon was selling bars of what he called "Genuine Yankee Soap" to distinguish it from European imports.
In the midst of this early success he married Jerusla Hubbard of Glastonbury. In 1849, he moved his soap manufactory to his father-in- law's water-powered grist mill on what is now Williams Street. Younger brother George relocated the Manchester pharmacy to Hartford. It became one of the first retail outlets for J.B.'s products.
Seven people made all the soap in 1840. The payroll doubled by 1860. The men mixed the compounds, boiled the tallow and pressed the soap into bars.
Women wrapped and labeled the products. It was one of the first factories to hire women. Ink and blacking -- shoe polish made from a base of apple cider jelly -- were soon added to the product line. In 1880, son David formed his own company and produced a laundry soap he called Ivorine. The two firms merged five years later.
Much of the success was said to stem from the fact that the J.B. Williams Co. kept to the basics. Two large cauldrons, one made of cast iron, the other of copper, held center stage. Beef fats and lye made from wood ashes were mixed and boiled, other chemicals added and the resulting soap poured out into pans. "Yankee Soap" was a combination of the basic hardstock soap and the Williams' special shaving soap, called "Barber's Bar Soap." Men in the factory would pound chunks of the two soaps together by hand and then press the resulting blend into cakes. Hydraulic presses and power mixers were added later.
A company carpenter built the wooden shipping cases and crates. The print shop made all the labels. When enough crates had piled up, a nearby farmer came by with his wagon and carted them into Hartford for local distribution or to a nearby steamboat dock, where they were shipped to New York City and around the world.
The Williamses were tough taskmasters. The factory ran from 6 a.m. to 6 p.m. in the summer and from 7 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. in the winter, six days a week.
Good Friday and Thanksgiving were the only weekday holidays of the year. Christmas Day and the Fourth of July were regular work days for everyone. By the turn of the century, a dynamo had been hitched up to the plant's steam engine and electric lights installed in the factory and the nearby Williams houses. The lights went off at 10 p.m., however, so the families either had to retire early or scramble to fire up their old kerosene lamps.
J.B., who didn't trust the stock market, invested his profits in local businesses, including a silver-plating factory in South Glastonbury. Its flatware was used as premiums to induce people to buy Ivorine -- a teaspoon in the pound boxes and a tablespoon, knife, fork and butter knife or sugar shell in the 2-pound box. Other innovative advertising included giving shaving soap samples away at the 1876 Philadelphia Exposition, a first for the industry.
At its peak in the 1950s, the J.B. Williams Co. had a workforce of 230 and a string of well-known products -- Skol suntan lotion, Lectric Shave and Aqua Velva shaving lotions, Conti castile soaps and shampoos, Kreml hair tonic and, of course, the Williams shaving soaps in sticks, cakes and aerosols.
An out-of-state buyer scooped the firm up in 1957. Despite promising to make no changes, operations were moved to New Jersey in 1960. A handful of former employees ran the factory as Glastonbury Toiletries Inc. for another 17 years.“
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Post by timholycross on Feb 14, 2022 14:39:27 GMT -5
They still sell Geritol? I sure feel like I could use some these days. "And a vun and a two"😊 And each and every one is a fine family man! Here's the lovely Lennon Sisters!
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Post by Crucis#1 on Feb 14, 2022 14:39:47 GMT -5
Walter Brennan will alway be Amos McCoy.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 14, 2022 16:03:15 GMT -5
How many people watching the Welk show has this reaction: "He's lived in this country his whole life and he still speaks with a German accent." I do know about the German enclaves in the Midwest
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Post by alum on Feb 14, 2022 16:22:39 GMT -5
My grandfather (you know, the ex-Jesuit), was a hot-shot regional sales manager for J.B. Williams who made Geritol and also Aqua-Velva. He had a closet full of that stuff. My other grandfather, from Ireland, thought that Geritol was nothing more than a scam. I had no clue J.B. Williams was based in Glastonbury, CT until about 3 years ago and the darn place has a museum as I believe they've long since gone out of business. One son went there and came up with a bunch of pictures of my grandfather and the guy we all knew as a strict disciplinarian, former Jebbie, apparently had another facet of his life. Betting Crucis knows about J.B. Williams! {edit since reading Crucis post: My former Jesuit grandfather was first cousins with academy award winner Walter Brennan and group up with him] I ran in a high school cross country meet at the lovely J.B. Williams Park in Glastonbury in the late 70s (OMG, I am old) and then watched my daughter run in one there seven or eight years ago.
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 14, 2022 16:25:25 GMT -5
Geritol??? "Are you suffering from Iron Deficiency Anemia (we call it tired blood)?" Take Geritol.
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 14, 2022 17:03:05 GMT -5
Thanks for the history lesson, Crucis. My grandfather was most definitely there in the 1950's in their apparent heyday. Forgot about the Skol and Lectric Shave and Kreml as they were all in that closet as well. Interesting that there was no mention of Geritol in your write-up but suspecting that came with the new owners "branching out." My grandfather retired from Williams and then help set up the Pius X Prep Seminary and was their founding registrar. When he died, his funeral Mass was concelebrated by 27 priests. Huge write up in the Long Island Catholic newspaper.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Feb 14, 2022 17:17:28 GMT -5
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Post by timholycross on Feb 17, 2022 17:05:54 GMT -5
Walter Brennan will alway be Amos McCoy. Who woulda thunk Amos McCoy was from Sin City, a/k/a Lynn, MA!
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 17, 2022 17:26:21 GMT -5
So, back to Geritol as I was wondering of the connection to J.B. Williams: So, my other grandfather was right! P.S. Looks like they still sell this stuff!!
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 17, 2022 20:33:01 GMT -5
I have a remote family connection to Lawrence Welk. But no one will care, but I will share anyway. My grandchildren’s, great great grandmother ( son-in-law side) was a grammar and high school classmate of Lawrence Welk, in Strasbourg, South Dakota, and as the story goes, they always were seen in each other’s company. Ironically, my grandchildren’s, great grandmother had the same first name as Lawrence’s wife. We always wondered “why”. How’s that for a convoluted story, that is of no interest to anyone. But I enjoy the Kevin Bacon game of six degrees of separation. 🤔🤣.Many of us have only one degree of separation from Coach Duff. Similar story. My uncle (HC class of '50) was med school room mate at Marquette with Welk's son. Family legend has it, it was a great graduation party with Lawrence Welk playing the piano accompanying all the Irish people singing Marquette has a medical school? Why can't we get a medical school or at least a school of public health? It appears PVR wants HC to reclaim it's position as an undergraduate jewel. I hope we don't end up with the best horse and buggy in the country. Since HC's path forward is under review I hope all directions are under consideration. Now back to the Lawrence Welk Show.
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