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Post by sader1970 on May 16, 2022 15:07:59 GMT -5
Yeah, and the Russkis were going to take Ukraine in 3 days. With the right coach and Administration support, we can do that.
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Post by Tom on May 16, 2022 15:24:16 GMT -5
With the transfer portal and the Patriot League we will never be in the 125-150 range. I think Colgate has done it over the last few years, maybe longer, and I don't see why HC couldn't be what Colgate has been as of late. The low mid majors as a minor league is still a new concept working out. This is only the 2nd spring of not having to sit a year. Three or four years of data points from Colgate might not be relevant in our new normal
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Post by hchoops on May 16, 2022 15:25:56 GMT -5
Did you tell Matt Langel ?
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Post by trimster on May 16, 2022 15:46:11 GMT -5
Blaming the PL imho is like a grade schooler who has just flunked first grade saying "grammar school sucks, I want to go to junior high next year". The PL has not been good for HC basketball but we did have one coach who managed to get things done within it. Actually two if you count the last 4 years of the Blaney Era. The PL provided a convenient way to de-emphasize basketball at HC just as it did for football. The football program wasn't going to be able to compete with BC, Syracuse, Rutgers and Temple and the PL provided a landing spot. We all know football is the driver of college athletic programs so it was only a matter of time before the PL became an all sports conference. Right now, things have worked out OK for football: hoops, not so much. It isn't the PL's fault, it was just the vehicle to scale down the revenue sports.
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Post by longsuffering on May 16, 2022 15:59:36 GMT -5
Blaming the PL imho is like a grade schooler who has just flunked first grade saying "grammar school sucks, I want to go to junior high next year". The PL has not been good for HC basketball but we did have one coach who managed to get things done within it. Actually two if you count the last 4 years of the Blaney Era. The PL provided a convenient way to de-emphasize basketball at HC just as it did for football. The football program wasn't going to be able to compete with BC, Syracuse, Rutgers and Temple and the PL provided a landing spot. We all know football is the driver of college athletic programs so it was only a matter of time before the PL became an all sports conference. Right now, things have worked out OK for football: hoops, not so much. It isn't the PL's fault, it was just the vehicle to scale down the revenue sports. Good post mortem, but FB spending is way up with a large full time professional staff and I don't think HC traditionally was a big spender on basketball. Blaney had one(?) assistant when Potter and Vicens arrived and we played the type of basketball that sold out the Hart and earned a Big East invite. Now there are more suits on the bench than at Anderson Little.
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Post by trimster on May 16, 2022 16:38:35 GMT -5
The PL has not been good for HC basketball but we did have one coach who managed to get things done within it. Actually two if you count the last 4 years of the Blaney Era. The PL provided a convenient way to de-emphasize basketball at HC just as it did for football. The football program wasn't going to be able to compete with BC, Syracuse, Rutgers and Temple and the PL provided a landing spot. We all know football is the driver of college athletic programs so it was only a matter of time before the PL became an all sports conference. Right now, things have worked out OK for football: hoops, not so much. It isn't the PL's fault, it was just the vehicle to scale down the revenue sports. Good post mortem, but FB spending is way up with a large full time professional staff and I don't think HC traditionally was a big spender on basketball. Blaney had one(?) assistant when Potter and Vicens arrived and we played the type of basketball that sold out the Hart and earned a Big East invite. Now there are more suits on the bench than at Anderson Little. It is crazy. The athletic department at HC in the Seventies consisted of Ron Perry, Joe McDonough, Richie Lewis and Linda George and Richie's wife in the ticket office. The womens sports program was ramping up so by the late seventies, HC probably had 25 sports with the aforementioned group running it. How many people are in the department now, minus the coaches and trainers.
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Post by WorcesterGray on May 21, 2022 12:31:25 GMT -5
There is a reason HC is looking at D2 and D3 student-athletes as potential transfers. So is Colgate. They just got a commitment today from Chandler Baker, the sharp-shooter from Belmont Abbey we were pursuing.
In his two seasons at BA, Baker was 85-187 (45.5%) beyond the arc - great pickup for Langel.
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Post by res on May 21, 2022 12:44:14 GMT -5
Alas, the Abbey hasn't been the same since Al McGuire left.
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Post by timholycross on May 21, 2022 16:10:13 GMT -5
Good post mortem, but FB spending is way up with a large full time professional staff and I don't think HC traditionally was a big spender on basketball. Blaney had one(?) assistant when Potter and Vicens arrived and we played the type of basketball that sold out the Hart and earned a Big East invite. Now there are more suits on the bench than at Anderson Little. It is crazy. The athletic department at HC in the Seventies consisted of Ron Perry, Joe McDonough, Richie Lewis and Linda George and Richie's wife in the ticket office. The womens sports program was ramping up so by the late seventies, HC probably had 25 sports with the aforementioned group running it. How many people are in the department now, minus the coaches and trainers. Good example of how Mom & Pop the AA was (and how they didn't give a hoot about anything except football, basketball and baseball). I was on the soccer team my first two years at HC. They didn't have a freshman team but because HC was a "university division" school, freshmen weren't eligible. In other words, nice to have you at practice, but that's it for your first year there. Halfway during the season, the coach figured that Joe McD and Vince Dougherty (sp?) had no intention of ever seeing a game or anything else related to soccer. Scheduled the games, hired and paid the refs, arranged the buses to road games, that was it. They were too busy with the hepatitis outbreak on top of that. So the coach started playing freshmen and there were no ramifications whatsoever. My second year, we had freshmen from the get-go, not sure if the rule had changed or the coach double-dared anyone to find out.
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