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Post by bfoley82 on May 2, 2022 17:38:57 GMT -5
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 2, 2022 18:12:16 GMT -5
Is 16 the new golden number? Both A10 and CAA seem to say that's the case.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 2, 2022 18:25:58 GMT -5
Candidates for #16:
Here's my shortlist of who will likely be considered -- College of Charleston, Belmont, Drake, Siena.
Temple and Old Dominion would be perfects fits if the could somehow convince the AAC and Sun Belt to let them stay as affiliates -- chances that would happen are slim to none however.
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Post by Tom on May 2, 2022 19:07:03 GMT -5
There is something to be said for having an even number of teams.
Still, having 16 teams in the Atlantic 10 just feels like a misnomer
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Post by res on May 2, 2022 19:11:30 GMT -5
There is something to be said for having an even number of teams. Still, having 16 teams in the Atlantic 10 just feels like a misnomer A1G
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on May 2, 2022 19:17:30 GMT -5
A10 just prepping for when StL and Dayton leave for the Big East.
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Post by trimster on May 3, 2022 6:05:18 GMT -5
Is 16 the new golden number? Both A10 and CAA seem to say that's the case. Bloated conferences are just another sign of how far the NCAA has gone off the rails. Does anyone really think the ACC has improved its brand by going to 15 or 16 schools?
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Post by rf1 on May 3, 2022 8:14:12 GMT -5
The A-10 is open to a 16th member does not necessarily mean it is actively pursuing another team at this point. There are few teams out there right now that add real value. I think only a home-run choice such as Temple or Wichita State would qualify and I am unsure if teams such as this have any desire to make a move. If you follow A-10 team fan forums, there seems to be more consensus for contraction than expansion.
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Post by Tom on May 3, 2022 8:54:20 GMT -5
The A-10 is open to a 16th member does not necessarily mean it is actively pursuing another team at this point. There are few teams out there right now that add real value. I think only a home-run choice such as Temple or Wichita State would qualify and I am unsure if teams such as this have any desire to make a move. If you follow A-10 team fan forums, there seems to be more consensus for contraction than expansion. I would be surprised if Temple jumped into a league they quit
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on May 3, 2022 9:11:08 GMT -5
Furthermore the A10 is nowhere near as strong a conference as it was in the past.
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Post by timholycross on May 3, 2022 9:18:11 GMT -5
No one has yet mentioned Holy Cross as a potential 16th team. I bet towards the end of the Ralph Willard tenure that would have been different.
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Post by trimster on May 3, 2022 9:28:09 GMT -5
The A-10 is open to a 16th member does not necessarily mean it is actively pursuing another team at this point. There are few teams out there right now that add real value. I think only a home-run choice such as Temple or Wichita State would qualify and I am unsure if teams such as this have any desire to make a move. If you follow A-10 team fan forums, there seems to be more consensus for contraction than expansion. I would be surprised if Temple jumped into a league they quit Agree but not much surprises me any more in college athletics.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 3, 2022 9:33:09 GMT -5
No one has yet mentioned Holy Cross as a potential 16th team. I bet towards the end of the Ralph Willard tenure that would have been different. Correct.
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Post by DFW HOYA on May 3, 2022 9:40:44 GMT -5
No one has yet mentioned Holy Cross as a potential 16th team. I bet towards the end of the Ralph Willard tenure that would have been different. Why doesn't someone raise the possibility? Wouldn't there be more interest playing UMass, URI, Davidson, Bona, etc. than American and Loyola?
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on May 3, 2022 9:43:28 GMT -5
With the current state of our basketball program, if HC were to enter the "Conference Transfer Portal" there is a real chance we might end up in limbo.
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Post by Tom on May 3, 2022 10:17:09 GMT -5
No one has yet mentioned Holy Cross as a potential 16th team. I bet towards the end of the Ralph Willard tenure that would have been different. Why doesn't someone raise the possibility? Wouldn't there be more interest playing UMass, URI, Davidson, Bona, etc. than American and Loyola? The same jump worked out well for Fordham
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Post by trimster on May 3, 2022 10:39:42 GMT -5
Why doesn't someone raise the possibility? Wouldn't there be more interest playing UMass, URI, Davidson, Bona, etc. than American and Loyola? The same jump worked out well for Fordham True but how has the PL worked out for HC Athletics, the aberration of RW aside. From a hoop point of view, I'd like to see football remain in the PL and see the rest of the athletic program in a more high profile conference than the PL. I think hell will freeze over before we leave the PL.
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Post by trimster on May 3, 2022 10:40:53 GMT -5
No one has yet mentioned Holy Cross as a potential 16th team. I bet towards the end of the Ralph Willard tenure that would have been different. Why doesn't someone raise the possibility? Wouldn't there be more interest playing UMass, URI, Davidson, Bona, etc. than American and Loyola? Ya think!
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Post by longsuffering on May 3, 2022 10:58:08 GMT -5
The same jump worked out well for Fordham True but how has the PL worked out for HC Athletics, the aberration of RW aside. From a hoop point of view, I'd like to see football remain in the PL and see the rest of the athletic program in a more high profile conference than the PL. I think hell will freeze over before we leave the PL. How does raising the profile of HC Swimming, tennis, golf, etc. help? Higher profile league often means more schollies for minor sports at schools sponsoring fewer sports. Agree with you about drastic climate change being needed in Hell for HC to leave the PL.
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Post by bigfan on May 3, 2022 11:07:57 GMT -5
Atlantic 10 would improve our basketball program, men & women. The A-10 schedule would increase attendance and would help in recruiting better athletes.
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Post by trimster on May 3, 2022 11:11:00 GMT -5
True but how has the PL worked out for HC Athletics, the aberration of RW aside. From a hoop point of view, I'd like to see football remain in the PL and see the rest of the athletic program in a more high profile conference than the PL. I think hell will freeze over before we leave the PL. How does raising the profile of HC Swimming, tennis, golf, etc. help? Higher profile league often means more schollies for minor sports at school sponsoring fewer sports. Agree with you about drastic climate change being needed in Hell for HC on the Integer Scale. to leave the PL. I agree minor sports could be a sticky wicket but minor sports aren't exactly flourishing in the PL and HC probably wouldn't be competing in minor sports across the board because most mid-major conferences as well as the high majors, don't have programs in the number of sports the Pat and Ivy does. Many of our minor sports would probably have to cobble together a schedule with D1 schools in the Northeast and some of the higher profile league schools but the likelihood of this coming to pass is negative 100 on the Integer Scale.
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Post by hchoops on May 3, 2022 11:42:20 GMT -5
As far as hoops is concerned, coaching, coaching, coaching No matter what league.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on May 3, 2022 18:20:47 GMT -5
Any discussion of present day HC MBB leaving the atrocious pL for any other D1 conference is a complete waste of time.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 3, 2022 18:51:50 GMT -5
True but how has the PL worked out for HC Athletics, the aberration of RW aside. From a hoop point of view, I'd like to see football remain in the PL and see the rest of the athletic program in a more high profile conference than the PL. I think hell will freeze over before we leave the PL. How does raising the profile of HC Swimming, tennis, golf, etc. help? Higher profile league often means more schollies for minor sports at schools sponsoring fewer sports. Agree with you about drastic climate change being needed in Hell for HC to leave the PL. Aside from Men's Basketball, and baseball b/c of the southern schools, the A-10 probably is probably not much stronger than the PL, if at all, in most sports. And of course, there's no Men's Lax. Even in Women's Basketball, the A-10 is purely a one-bid league -- and Bucknell knocked off the rep from the A-10 (Fordham) in the WNIT this year.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 3, 2022 18:58:25 GMT -5
How does raising the profile of HC Swimming, tennis, golf, etc. help? Higher profile league often means more schollies for minor sports at school sponsoring fewer sports. Agree with you about drastic climate change being needed in Hell for HC on the Integer Scale. to leave the PL. I agree minor sports could be a sticky wicket but minor sports aren't exactly flourishing in the PL and HC probably wouldn't be competing in minor sports across the board because most mid-major conferences as well as the high majors, don't have programs in the number of sports the Pat and Ivy does. Many of our minor sports would probably have to cobble together a schedule with D1 schools in the Northeast and some of the higher profile league schools but the likelihood of this coming to pass is negative 100 on the Integer Scale. The A-10 sponsors every sport that the PL does except for -- Football, Men's Lacrosse, Women's Golf If Holy Cross were actually a mutual interest candidate to join the A-10 right now, in today's real-world landscape, the logistics wouldn't be that difficult. This is likely where we'd land, conservatively assuming that the PL would cut us off from remaining as an affiliate in any sport (which they might not): Football - NEC => honestly I think the PL would let us stay ala Fordham in 1995 but would need to add another all-sports member w/ football per league bylaws in order to keep sponsoring the sport; or change the bylaws. Men's Lacrosse - MAAC Women's Golf - Big South (we were in this league until about 10 years ago when PL started sponsoring)
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