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Post by hchoops on Jun 5, 2022 12:48:47 GMT -5
That was it ? Highlights ? 29 seconds ? And some of those seconds were filmed in the tunnel or in warmups. He made 35 field goals last season, and these are the only highlights ? Was there a time limit ?
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 5, 2022 12:53:59 GMT -5
He may be a great addition but not based on that clip.
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 5, 2022 13:39:56 GMT -5
A relaxed young man. More Faw than Butler, but all good. We have a year to shock the world or move on to a new approach. Not boring.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Jun 5, 2022 14:30:27 GMT -5
Didn't take me much longer than forty-five seconds to find something more extensive than the program could be bothered finding.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jun 5, 2022 14:46:52 GMT -5
How times have changed..... I believe that the HC roster for next season will be the first with five transfer students at the same time. Can anyone confirm?
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 5, 2022 15:19:03 GMT -5
Crucis, I don't think that fact will be listed under Holy Cross' "points of pride," do you?
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 5, 2022 16:41:21 GMT -5
Is this the first team to have no seniors who spent all four years at HC?
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jun 5, 2022 16:49:10 GMT -5
Crucis, I don't think that fact will be listed under Holy Cross' "points of pride," do you? It should be a one time Anomaly to HC. However looking a Verbal Commits, and the apparent me first attitude in the current NCAA ecosphere, it may not be as unusual over next several years. Seems the norm now at many schools.
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 5, 2022 17:17:15 GMT -5
We may have a "chicken or the egg" situation. Does losing cause the number of transfer portal-ists (trademark pending) to increase or does the loss of outgoing transferees cause losing?
I don't consider someone who is a senior and "transfers" to go to grad school as counting here. At least not at Holy Cross with no grad school even though they could (and have) stuck around for that extra season using a double major or skipping a semester.
But when you look at our men's basketball team, they have had horrendous losing records and historically high number of players transferring out.
The women's basketball team has had very few transfer portal-ists and had a championship year and lost in the PL playoffs thanks to an opponent's Robert Champion-style, once-in-a-lifetime miracle shot.
The football team, despite having a roster many times larger than the basketball team has had very, very few transfer-portalists but they have now won 3 league championships in a row. Coincidence?
What factors play into Crusader athletes seeking transfers?
Is it winning and losing records? Is it lack of playing time? Is it the academics (i.e. I wanna go somewhere where the academics are easier or I want to go to an Ivy!)? Is it the climate? Is it the coach? Is it . . . . . . ?
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Post by hchoops on Jun 5, 2022 17:26:33 GMT -5
Good questions all. Without knowing the reasons for any of these transfers, we can only guess. 3 years of much losing with the same coach certainly cannot help.
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 5, 2022 19:10:06 GMT -5
We may have a "chicken or the egg" situation. Does losing cause the number of transfer portal-ists (trademark pending) to increase or does the loss of outgoing transferees cause losing? I don't consider someone who is a senior and "transfers" to go to grad school as counting here. At least not at Holy Cross with no grad school even though they could (and have) stuck around for that extra season using a double major or skipping a semester. But when you look at our men's basketball team, they have had horrendous losing records and historically high number of players transferring out. The women's basketball team has had very few transfer portal-ists and had a championship year and lost in the PL playoffs thanks to an opponent's Robert Champion-style, once-in-a-lifetime miracle shot. The football team, despite having a roster many times larger than the basketball team has had very, very few transfer-portalists but they have now won 3 league championships in a row. Coincidence? What factors play into Crusader athletes seeking transfers?
Is it winning and losing records? Is it lack of playing time? Is it the academics (i.e. I wanna go somewhere where the academics are easier or I want to go to an Ivy!)? Is it the climate? Is it the coach? Is it . . . . . . ?
A group of panel-ists are looking at your trademark application. I think it started with a first time head coach who was the first pick of a first time AD with both of them being deer in the headlights the first season. I surmised (no actual hard evidence I can remember) that they both were on the same page as far as wanting a quick upgrade of the roster but neither had the experience to pull it off with grace and skill while remaining true to HC's traditional values of true student athletes. Currently after the coach has gained three years of head coaching experience, isn't the HC roster turnover just about average for all D-1 teams and better than average for our cohort at the bottom of the rankings? Lesson? Don't let a rookie AD hire a rookie head coach for a school's major sport. Make sure one of them has done things before.
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Post by Tom on Jun 6, 2022 9:43:51 GMT -5
Is this the first team to have no seniors who spent all four years at HC? In 2018, there were no seniors on the basketball team at all. There was a one man recruiting class four years prior, and that player transferred out after freshman year to Nebraska-Omaha This past season had no scholarship seniors, but DJ Hart was a walk on for four years Next year, Gates will be the only senior, but he won't be a four year guy
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 6, 2022 10:28:49 GMT -5
Three years of Gates is worth four of most. One man class, six man class and now the extra Covid year of eligibility combined with the portal. Rosters with balanced classes seems quaint. Still the way to go when possible for an undergraduate only college imo.
I'll give BN a pass on planning for a balanced roster by class, however. He isn't even in position to choose green bananas at the market. I'll take the best available lineup for this year and hope it clicks, and clicks early so we don't have people calling for him to be fired all season long.
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 6, 2022 10:31:24 GMT -5
I seem to recall Ralph Willard asking at a coaches night "anyone need a sophomore? I've got seven of them." Maybe it was only six, but he had a big class go through.
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Post by trimster on Jun 6, 2022 17:46:08 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on Jun 6, 2022 17:50:08 GMT -5
Wonder if Batchelder’s and Kirkwood’s academic calendars are complete ? Or if Batch is just playing after classes ? A long commute for Kirkwood. Hope the returnees are all there.
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 6, 2022 17:59:06 GMT -5
I wouldn't think Tse would NEED to attend summer school. He has six years to earn a bachelor degree as it is, but glad to see him on campus. It's a good feeling that this fab five all want to be here.
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Post by trimster on Jun 6, 2022 19:05:05 GMT -5
I think the whole summer school thing is a way to get the team on campus for close to two months. I think everyone attends whether they need to or not. I believe there are two summer sessions and I have no idea how many students attend.
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 6, 2022 19:19:55 GMT -5
Heard at a future graduation walk line: "Stretch" McGuilicutty receiving his degree in Psychology, Biology, Theology and Sociology.🙂
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Post by hchoops on Jun 6, 2022 19:20:10 GMT -5
The same is done with all, or almost all, D1 teams.
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 6, 2022 19:21:31 GMT -5
Where's the NCAA (or OSHA) to protect these kids?
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Post by bison137 on Jun 6, 2022 19:48:19 GMT -5
Crucis, I don't think that fact will be listed under Holy Cross' "points of pride," do you? It should be a one time Anomaly to HC. However looking a Verbal Commits, and the apparent me first attitude in the current NCAA ecosphere, it may not be as unusual over next several years. Seems the norm now at many schools. Here's a sign of the times. Mikey Henn, an average forward, will be in his seventh season of college ball this fall and will be playing for his fifth D1 school. His resume: 2016-17: UC Davis: 4.1 ppg 2017-18: Cal Baptist (sat out) 2018-19: Cal Baptist: 6.4 ppg 2019-20: Cal Baptist (DNP-INJ) 2020-21: Portland: 7.8 ppg 2021-22: Denver: 8.8 ppg 2022-23: Penn State: ?? (will need waiver to play) One of his teammates will be Andrew Funk, who transferred there after graduating from Bucknell last month. Henn probably won't believe that Funk spent four years playing for the same team.
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 6, 2022 20:06:56 GMT -5
It should be a one time Anomaly to HC. However looking a Verbal Commits, and the apparent me first attitude in the current NCAA ecosphere, it may not be as unusual over next several years. Seems the norm now at many schools. Here's a sign of the times. Mikey Henn, an average forward, will be in his seventh season of college ball this fall and will be playing for his fifth D1 school. His resume: 2016-17: UC Davis: 4.1 ppg 2017-18: Cal Baptist (sat out) 2018-19: Cal Baptist: 6.4 ppg 2019-20: Cal Baptist (DNP-INJ) 2020-21: Portland: 7.8 ppg 2021-22: Denver: 8.8 ppg 2022-23: Penn State: ?? (will need waiver to play) One of his teammates will be Andrew Funk, who transferred there after graduating from Bucknell last month. Henn probably won't believe that Funk spent four years playing for the same team. Great example. Mikey likes everywhere. To his credit his scoring average has increased each season he has played.
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Post by trimster on Jun 6, 2022 20:45:44 GMT -5
Where's the NCAA (or OSHA) to protect these kids? It is truly a year round commitment save August and some of May.
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 6, 2022 21:29:42 GMT -5
Where's the NCAA (or OSHA) to protect these kids? It is truly a year round commitment save August and some of May. I know. If I had a vote on the applicable NCAA committee I would vote to make the summer off limits. If it was the same for everyone and was taken seriously it wouldn't effect competition. I wonder if a college could take action against a player who chose to work as a waiter or lifeguard on the Cape or in the Hamptons for the summer? Going to summer semester and practicing all summer must still be at least officially voluntary, I hope.
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