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Post by matunuck on Aug 4, 2022 8:50:52 GMT -5
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Post by lehighowl on Aug 4, 2022 9:49:23 GMT -5
While it is an interesting read from a FBS perspective it fails to touch on the significant impact the breadth of colleges, especially private institutions, has had on Northeast collegiate athletic culture. The fact that a large portion of the population in the northeast do not attend the "State U." or see it as an aspirational place is an extremely influential dynamic. Likely, this ideology of higher education in the Northeast, and by extension athletics, stems from the Ivy League's stature (or the eight institutions before the league's actual formation) as the gold standard. The fact most of these institutions served or were near the major metro areas of the Northeast (I-95) only added to their impact. Plus, the Catholics always supported Notre Dame, Georgetown, Holy Cross and Georgetown when the latter three played "big time" ball. The influence of Army/Navy in New York and Philly can't be ignored either. When the academic, fiscally conservative private institutions pulled back on top-level college football it created a social change that still exists to this day.
I contend that as the elite level of college football moves towards a pay for play model, the door could open for the institutions who commit to the traditional "scholar-athlete" to capture a significant audience who really values that premise. The close, tight-knit geography of the Northeast allows for consistent rivalries which leads to a stronger emotional attachment. This is key because as TV continues to dictate the product the live experience decreases in enjoyment (NASCAR is a great example of this). The culture of the Northeast is set up for community/regional support and engagement even if it's at the modest level relatively speaking (FCS football/G5 football). As long as there is emotional investment in the product there will be physical/monetary support.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 4, 2022 9:59:15 GMT -5
The quote from the governor of Connecticut is just astounding
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Post by gerry on Aug 4, 2022 10:35:09 GMT -5
Nothing could have prevented the current predicament. If Paterno started his league with Pitt, BC, Syracuse, WVU, Temple, and Rutgers, it would have lasted probably five years. PSU would have dominated and would have quickly realized that playing in front of 100,000 in Columbus, Ann Arbor, or East Lansing would be way more profitable than playing in front of 35-50K (or less at Rutgers or Temple) in the northeast.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Aug 4, 2022 10:37:41 GMT -5
Nothing could have prevented the current predicament. If Paterno started his league with Pitt, BC, Syracuse, WVU, Temple, and Rutgers, it would have lasted probably five years. PSU would have dominated and would have quickly realized that playing in front of 100,000 in Columbus, Ann Arbor, or East Lansing would be way more profitable than playing in front of 35-50K (or less at Rutgers or Temple) in the northeast. Maybe it lasts more than 5 years but said league certainly wouldn't have lasted until now. |
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Post by Chu Chu on Aug 4, 2022 13:29:52 GMT -5
Great article and very thoughtful. It will be interesting to see how things develop. |
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Post by HC92 on Aug 4, 2022 15:04:50 GMT -5
The quote from the governor of Connecticut is just astounding “They’re good enough to join any conference they want, unless other teams are afraid of them.” Seems like he was specifically talking about UConn football joining a P5 conference. |
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Post by bfoley82 on Aug 4, 2022 15:09:55 GMT -5
While it is an interesting read from a FBS perspective it fails to touch on the significant impact the breadth of colleges, especially private institutions, has had on Northeast collegiate athletic culture. The fact that a large portion of the population in the northeast do not attend the "State U." or see it as an aspirational place is an extremely influential dynamic. Likely, this ideology of higher education in the Northeast, and by extension athletics, stems from the Ivy League's stature (or the eight institutions before the league's actual formation) as the gold standard. The fact most of these institutions served or were near the major metro areas of the Northeast (I-95) only added to their impact. Plus, the Catholics always supported Notre Dame, Georgetown, Holy Cross and Georgetown when the latter three played "big time" ball. The influence of Army/Navy in New York and Philly can't be ignored either. When the academic, fiscally conservative private institutions pulled back on top-level college football it created a social change that still exists to this day. I contend that as the elite level of college football moves towards a pay for play model, the door could open for the institutions who commit to the traditional "scholar-athlete" to capture a significant audience who really values that premise. The close, tight-knit geography of the Northeast allows for consistent rivalries which leads to a stronger emotional attachment. This is key because as TV continues to dictate the product the live experience decreases in enjoyment (NASCAR is a great example of this). The culture of the Northeast is set up for community/regional support and engagement even if it's at the modest level relatively speaking (FCS football/G5 football). As long as there is emotional investment in the product there will be physical/monetary support. There is over 250 colleges in New England alone...that is a big number and football on Friday nights in High School are NOT a big deal like it is down south so kids aren't ingrained to go to football when in college. |
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 4, 2022 15:36:57 GMT -5
The quote from the governor of Connecticut is just astounding The Guv must not have been watching the HC game last year. |
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