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Post by trimster on Oct 9, 2022 16:46:41 GMT -5
The numbers sucked. Looked like we had 35 kicking and 35 holding on one PAT or FG. I didn't think that was allowed and the roster only shows NG w/35 (I only spot duplicate 43/44/90 and 93 on the roster). Duplicate numbers have been allowed for some time. I believe the stipulation is one plays O and the other plays D and I don't believe they are allowed in the game on the same play.
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Post by sader1970 on Oct 9, 2022 17:05:49 GMT -5
The usual holder on PATs and FGs is Patrick Haughney, the 1st string punter. Patrick is #95 and my educated guess is you saw 95 but looked liked 35. Derek Ng is 35. He kicked almost all the PATs & FGs. From my vantage point at the game, Patrick was the holder.
I hate those uniforms but no one from Holy Cross asked me. I agree with the poster who said it looked like Mom ironed the numerals onto the uniform and, sorry, our single school color is royal purple.
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Post by DiMarz on Oct 9, 2022 17:45:42 GMT -5
Glad to remember them. Good times, especially Jimmy's TD against BC. One of the things us youngsters did after home games was to try to get a player to give us their chinstrap..Seems silly now, but back then it was a big deal..I was able to get one from Jimmy, kept it for many years, and even used it during my high school playing days.....Kids today have no idea....lol
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Post by gks on Oct 9, 2022 20:04:32 GMT -5
Assuming a large shift in the NCAA landscape, what would it take for the schools mentioned to join the PL? Would PL academics & policies pose a problem? Would PL schools be willing to significantly alter its policies? Would dropping athletic scholarships and moving solely to need/merit based scholarships exempt schools from NIL? Would our core Pa. schools - Bucknell, Lafayette , Lehigh - go along with the entry of these schools? And, what would Colgate do? Is it more likely Merrimack & other smaller/ academic colleges would join the PL? Would the PL opt for Div. II, III? And, no doubt there are more questions? I have no idea what the future will bring. Best for me to live in the present & enjoy HC football, etc. Please stop... Villanova, Richmond, W & M are NEVER going to join the Patriot League unless the league adapts the policies of every other athletic league in D1. No redshirting and roster limits are absolute non-starters. Just think.....why would Villanova, who's reputation is just fine as is, willingly handcuff their football, and other, programs to join a league that most in the country think is a joke?
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Post by hcpride on Oct 9, 2022 20:45:14 GMT -5
Assuming a large shift in the NCAA landscape, what would it take for the schools mentioned to join the PL? Would PL academics & policies pose a problem? Would PL schools be willing to significantly alter its policies? Would dropping athletic scholarships and moving solely to need/merit based scholarships exempt schools from NIL? Would our core Pa. schools - Bucknell, Lafayette , Lehigh - go along with the entry of these schools? And, what would Colgate do? Is it more likely Merrimack & other smaller/ academic colleges would join the PL? Would the PL opt for Div. II, III? And, no doubt there are more questions? I have no idea what the future will bring. Best for me to live in the present & enjoy HC football, etc. Please stop... Villanova, Richmond, W & M are NEVER going to join the Patriot League unless the league adapts the policies of every other athletic league in D1. No redshirting and roster limits are absolute non-starters. Just think.....why would Villanova, who's reputation is just fine as is, willingly handcuff their football, and other, programs to join a league that most in the country think is a joke? Nova /Richmond/W&M/SBU moving DOWN to the PL doesn’t pass the giggle test. The only thing sillier than the belief that 5th year seniors harm a school’s academic reputation is the belief that Nova/Richmond/W&M/SBU would improve their reputation by joining the PL.
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Post by cruskater31 on Oct 9, 2022 21:29:54 GMT -5
Better idea. We join them rather than them joining the PL! Or a new Yankee Conference. But let's win the PL and make a run this year first.
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Post by longsuffering on Oct 9, 2022 23:15:14 GMT -5
The PL is less of a joke with two of seven teams in the top 25. A good question is does Fordham get into the playoffs with a 9-2 record with only a close loss to an FBS team and a decisive loss to an undefeated team?
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Post by mm67 on Oct 10, 2022 0:09:36 GMT -5
Assuming a large shift in the NCAA landscape, what would it take for the schools mentioned to join the PL? Would PL academics & policies pose a problem? Would PL schools be willing to significantly alter its policies? Would dropping athletic scholarships and moving solely to need/merit based scholarships exempt schools from NIL? Would our core Pa. schools - Bucknell, Lafayette , Lehigh - go along with the entry of these schools? And, what would Colgate do? Is it more likely Merrimack & other smaller/ academic colleges would join the PL? Would the PL opt for Div. II, III? And, no doubt there are more questions? I have no idea what the future will bring. Best for me to live in the present & enjoy HC football, etc. Please stop... Villanova, Richmond, W & M are NEVER going to join the Patriot League unless the league adapts the policies of every other athletic league in D1. No redshirting and roster limits are absolute non-starters. Just think.....why would Villanova, who's reputation is just fine as is, willingly handcuff their football, and other, programs to join a league that most in the country think is a joke? Suggest you read more carefully. Your comment should have been directed at purple1 who brought up the subject of these schools joining the PL. I was merely responding to his comment. My comments were clearly indicating the obvious difficulties of such a move. Of course it's not going to happen. Nor, will the silliness of HC joining the CAA occur. It makes no sense on a number of levels. Don't understand the fixation on the discredited USNWR reputation index. It's all hot air and nothing more. Kindly redirect your comment. to the appropriate poster. Enjoy this year's team. PS You wrote every team in DivI allows redshirting, et al. Are you sure the IL allows non-medical redshirting? Most in the country think is a joke?Huh?Isn't that a bit of an overstatement? Peace.
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Post by gks on Oct 10, 2022 6:50:26 GMT -5
Please stop... Villanova, Richmond, W & M are NEVER going to join the Patriot League unless the league adapts the policies of every other athletic league in D1. No redshirting and roster limits are absolute non-starters. Just think.....why would Villanova, who's reputation is just fine as is, willingly handcuff their football, and other, programs to join a league that most in the country think is a joke? Suggest you read more carefully. Your comment should have been directed at purple1 who brought up the subject of these schools joining the PL. I was merely responding to his comment. My comments were clearly indicating the obvious difficulties of such a move. Of course it's not going to happen. Nor, will the silliness of HC joining the CAA occur. It makes no sense on a number of levels. Don't understand the fixation on the discredited USNWR reputation index. It's all hot air and nothing more. Kindly redirect your comment. to the appropriate poster. Enjoy this year's team. PS You wrote every team in DivI allows redshirting, et al. Are you sure the IL allows non-medical redshirting? Most in the country think is a joke?Huh?Isn't that a bit of an overstatement? Peace. I could care less about Ivy League football....as should everyone on this board. They purposely make themselves irrelevant in the scope of NCAA football. And yes....the majority of the FCS football world has no respect for PL football as a whole. This has nothing to do with academics.
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Post by purplehaze on Oct 10, 2022 8:17:03 GMT -5
The Lehigh color analyst said it right during their game vs. Fordham ‘the league has 2 good teams and 5 bad teams’ and I’m glad he said it - it’s embarrassing to be giving schollies at 4 of those schools and to be so inept
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Post by rgs318 on Oct 10, 2022 8:41:24 GMT -5
I find it entertaining that many of the same people who say most of the country think the PL Is a joke, also claim that most of the. country does not even know what the PL is or who is in it. More a statement of personal belief than anything meaningful in terms of reality.
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Post by mm67 on Oct 10, 2022 9:34:41 GMT -5
Instead of criticizing the PL, IL, etc why not enjoy football? The schools in those leagues have decided to follow policies which their leaders believe to be in the best interests of their schools. We may disagree with those policies. Fine! But, it makes little sense to keep harping about it. The game is bigger than our tangential criticisms and W-L records. Why not enjoy the game itself? Win-lose football is a great game. Peace. MM
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Post by longsuffering on Oct 10, 2022 10:11:25 GMT -5
Suggest you read more carefully. Your comment should have been directed at purple1 who brought up the subject of these schools joining the PL. I was merely responding to his comment. My comments were clearly indicating the obvious difficulties of such a move. Of course it's not going to happen. Nor, will the silliness of HC joining the CAA occur. It makes no sense on a number of levels. Don't understand the fixation on the discredited USNWR reputation index. It's all hot air and nothing more. Kindly redirect your comment. to the appropriate poster. Enjoy this year's team. PS You wrote every team in DivI allows redshirting, et al. Are you sure the IL allows non-medical redshirting? Most in the country think is a joke?Huh?Isn't that a bit of an overstatement? Peace. I could care less about Ivy League football....as should everyone on this board. They purposely make themselves irrelevant in the scope of NCAA football. And yes....the majority of the FCS football world has no respect for PL football as a whole. This has nothing to do with academics. I agree that H, Y, D and B being eligible for the FCS playoffs would heighten interest in FCS football in New England as the season winds down/heats up, whichever you prefer. "THE Game" between H and Y could be even more newsworthy if it risked knocking a Holy Cross or URI or UNH off the bubble or into the tournament depending on it's outcome. But we can't create new rivalries that date back a century or more by scheduling North Central Southeastern State U that just moved up to FCS a few years ago and now is ranked. The Ivies are respected by the polls so beating them still matters and they help balance the weakness of the five currently woeful PL teams on the schedule.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Oct 10, 2022 10:33:02 GMT -5
I could care less about Ivy League football....as should everyone on this board. They purposely make themselves irrelevant in the scope of NCAA football. And yes....the majority of the FCS football world has no respect for PL football as a whole. This has nothing to do with academics. I agree that H, Y, D and B being eligible for the FCS playoffs would heighten interest in FCS football in New England as the season winds down/heats up, whichever you prefer. "THE Game" between H and Y could be even more newsworthy if it risked knocking a Holy Cross or URI or UNH off the bubble or into the tournament depending on it's outcome. But we can't create new rivalries that date back a century or more by scheduling North Central Southeastern State U that just moved up to FCS a few years ago and now is ranked. The Ivies are respected by the polls so beating them still matters and they help balance the weakness of the five currently woeful PL teams on the schedule. I agree with you except for where you say that the Ivies are respected by the polls. Because in a lot of cases they're not, and the top Ivies tend to be under-ranked much more often than they are over-ranked. Typically the Ivy champ winds up getting a "token" ranking somewhere in the 18-20 range and if the 2nd and/or 3rd place teams are strong they'll be in the bottom of the Top 25 or ORV. Outside of the PL/CAA/NEC circles, I think a lot of people in the FCS world view the Ivy League as bad football because it's "non-scholarship" and because they never schedule anyone outside their traditional comfort zones. Another thing that hurts the Ivies in the FCS rankings is the late start to the season. Even by Week 4 or Week 5 voters are still getting their bearings on the Ivies and trying to figure out who to keep on their watch list for the Top 25. Case in point -- still no one ranked from the Ancient 8 this year, and we're already through 4 Saturdays with Ivies playing. Stonehill and Davidson have Top 25 votes in the coaches' poll and Harvard does not. Let that sink in.
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Post by longsuffering on Oct 10, 2022 10:41:07 GMT -5
So HC is bucking up H&Y in the rankings this season, making each of their lone losses a quality loss against a top ten team, as their 3-1 records help shield us from the records of the PL "Futile Five".
Fortunately somebody has to win the remaining PL on PL crimes, er games 🙂 so that will help our SOS a little.
At Stonehill they must be kicking themselves for waiting so long to move up to FCS.
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Post by efg72 on Oct 10, 2022 18:55:14 GMT -5
We just to win games 1-15, one at a time
Polls will reflect our success
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