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Post by newfieguy74 on Nov 21, 2022 17:58:32 GMT -5
According to the Lehigh board Gilmore has resigned.
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Post by HC13 on Nov 21, 2022 19:20:04 GMT -5
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 21, 2022 22:10:00 GMT -5
Official from Lehigh athletics website:
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 22, 2022 4:07:24 GMT -5
So he doesn't get paid for the rest of his contract? Must have been a mutually agreeable resolution of the contract for everyone to be so upbeat about TG stepping down.
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Post by HC92 on Nov 22, 2022 6:00:57 GMT -5
So he doesn't get paid for the rest of his contract? Must have been a mutually agreeable resolution of the contract for everyone to be so upbeat about TG stepping down. Guessing they worked out a mutually agreeable settlement of any remaining obligations under his contract.
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 22, 2022 6:50:54 GMT -5
Let’s not assume that every AD is less smart than HC’s ADs and anticipate that everything might not go perfectly during a contract period and might even have a buy out clause that both parties accept up front.
Say what you will about TG’s coaching but he’s a pretty savvy guy especially after getting axed mid-season at Holy Cross. He can read the tea leaves and this would have been no surprise and suggest to you that he was probably well prepared for this and likely so was Lehigh.
Maybe we do need to have a business school at Holy Cross or at least hire ADs with that educational background. I cringe when I think of what might be in Nelson’s contract or, more likely, what is missing in it.
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Post by cruskater31 on Nov 22, 2022 8:17:15 GMT -5
Let’s not assume that every AD is less smart than HC’s ADs and anticipate that everything might not go perfectly during a contract period and might even have a buy out clause that both parties accept up front. Say what you will about TG’s coaching but he’s a pretty savvy guy especially after getting axed mid-season at Holy Cross. He can read the tea leaves and this would have been no surprise and suggest to you that he was probably well prepared for this and likely so was Lehigh. Maybe we do need to have a business school at Holy Cross or at least hire ADs with that educational background. I cringe when I think of what might be in Nelson’s contract or, more likely, what is missing in it. Blossom was the Associate AD for Business at BC prior to coming to HC. I am not sure about Kit and what his responsibilities were at BGU. I think Pine might have had some experience in that area also, at least fundraising.
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 22, 2022 8:38:05 GMT -5
Somehow the Blossom background does not reassure me. Probably just me though.
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Post by hcpride on Nov 22, 2022 9:08:53 GMT -5
This should go down in Lehigh history as one of their most curious head coach hires. Gilmore could no longer win at HC, was unceremoniously fired mid season by HC, was subsequently hired by conference rival Lehigh and…couldn’t win at Lehigh and eventually resigned. Does seem rather predictable in retrospect (and even at the time Lehigh hired him folks predicted his continued lack of success as a head coach).
Wouldn’t shock me of they go the up-and-comer route so spectacularly successful at post-Gilmore Holy Cross.
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Post by nhteamer on Nov 22, 2022 10:29:54 GMT -5
let's hope Colgate hires him
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Post by DFW HOYA on Nov 22, 2022 10:35:15 GMT -5
This should go down in Lehigh history as one of their most curious head coach hires. Gilmore could no longer win at HC, was unceremoniously fired mid season by HC, was subsequently hired by conference rival Lehigh and…couldn’t win at Lehigh and eventually resigned. Does seem rather predictable in retrospect (and even at the time Lehigh hired him folks predicted his continued lack of success as a head coach). Wouldn’t shock me of they go the up-and-comer route so spectacularly successful at post-Gilmore Holy Cross. Not that curious. It's 2018--the staff is getting over the shock of Andy Coen's diagnosis, neither of the coordinators were considered head coach material, and Gilmore is available as an experienced head coach that knows how to manage in the PL system during a period where Lehigh needed stability. Success in college football is as much about the program as the head coach. Think of it as three tiers. 1) Build a strong program and a new coach can come in and win from the start (Sonny Dykes is a great example of this). 2) A new coach at a middle of the road program has to really fight to climb up, and 3) A new coach at a weak program has little or no opportunity to climb up regardless of skillset. I think Lehigh thought of themselves as that first tier, when in reality they had slipped to a second tier program in Coen's later years, alongside Lafayette and Colgate. That's where the PL is now--two at the top, three in the middle, two locked at the bottom.
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 22, 2022 11:26:45 GMT -5
Let’s not assume that every AD is less smart than HC’s ADs and anticipate that everything might not go perfectly during a contract period and might even have a buy out clause that both parties accept up front. Say what you will about TG’s coaching but he’s a pretty savvy guy especially after getting axed mid-season at Holy Cross. He can read the tea leaves and this would have been no surprise and suggest to you that he was probably well prepared for this and likely so was Lehigh. Maybe we do need to have a business school at Holy Cross or at least hire ADs with that educational background. I cringe when I think of what might be in Nelson’s contract or, more likely, what is missing in it. That's not fair to HC. BN had us over a barrel as he was the only assistant coach available at the time.
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Post by Ignutz on Nov 22, 2022 12:17:18 GMT -5
let's hope Colgate hires him Or Fordham!
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 22, 2022 12:28:09 GMT -5
Let’s not assume that every AD is less smart than HC’s ADs and anticipate that everything might not go perfectly during a contract period and might even have a buy out clause that both parties accept up front. Say what you will about TG’s coaching but he’s a pretty savvy guy especially after getting axed mid-season at Holy Cross. He can read the tea leaves and this would have been no surprise and suggest to you that he was probably well prepared for this and likely so was Lehigh. Maybe we do need to have a business school at Holy Cross or at least hire ADs with that educational background. I cringe when I think of what might be in Nelson’s contract or, more likely, what is missing in it. That's not fair to HC. BN had us over a barrel as he was the only assistant coach available at the time. I apologize. I just checked my math. There were over a thousand D-1 assistants available when we had the only D-1 opening in the country. We should have hired a search firm.
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 22, 2022 15:26:53 GMT -5
Sarcasm noted! Sarasota would be proud of you!
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Post by CHC8485 on Nov 22, 2022 16:25:20 GMT -5
Let’s not assume that every AD is less smart than HC’s ADs and anticipate that everything might not go perfectly during a contract period and might even have a buy out clause that both parties accept up front. Say what you will about TG’s coaching but he’s a pretty savvy guy especially after getting axed mid-season at Holy Cross. He can read the tea leaves and this would have been no surprise and suggest to you that he was probably well prepared for this and likely so was Lehigh. Maybe we do need to have a business school at Holy Cross or at least hire ADs with that educational background. I cringe when I think of what might be in Nelson’s contract or, more likely, what is missing in it. Somehow the Blossom background does not reassure me. Probably just me though. The 3 most recent Former ADs all had fairly strong business backgrounds. ADKH is the LEAST business-ey of them all. Kit Hughes | MA - Higher Education, Boston College BA - Sociology; Bowdoin College
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| Nate Pine | MA - Education, University of California at Berkeley BS - Marketing and International Business Oregon State University
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| Dick Regan | BA - Economics-Accounting |
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I know the AD has to manage and work within a budget but I think it's about time we have someone who can think creatively about the department and is not looking at athletics through a business (i.e. cost) lens and leave more of the business-ey (i.e., accounting) thinking to Dorothy Hauver and the office for Administration & Finance.
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Post by Chu Chu on Nov 22, 2022 23:10:36 GMT -5
Kit Hughes has been doing a pretty good job thus far, IMO. How he handles things going forward will be telling. Support for the Crusader Athletics Fund will be a key way to help him.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Nov 23, 2022 9:57:48 GMT -5
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 23, 2022 10:13:00 GMT -5
So, not only well written but this is the guy I've known for almost 20 years and the reasons why I still like and keep in touch with him. What the author talks about Tom's love for Lehigh, I can tell you that despite his termination mid-season from Holy Cross, he remains loyal to our alma mater and is smart enough to make the distinction between the Holy Cross institution and the AD and Administration. The same distinction some of us have to make for some of the more recent decisions (no, not Vince's decisions):
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Post by timholycross on Nov 23, 2022 16:18:34 GMT -5
So, not only well written but this is the guy I've known for almost 20 years and the reasons why I still like and keep in touch with him. What the author talks about Tom's love for Lehigh, I can tell you that despite his termination mid-season from Holy Cross, he remains loyal to our alma mater and is smart enough to make the distinction between the Holy Cross institution and the AD and Administration. The same distinction some of us have to make for some of the more recent decisions (no, not Vince's decisions): ....which is what I hope someone in and around HC is saying about Brett Nelson fairly soon. The final two sentences of the post, that is.
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 23, 2022 17:21:51 GMT -5
BN is being given enough rope to...lasso a winning PL season.🤪
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Post by purplehaze on Dec 16, 2022 14:18:10 GMT -5
Rumor that Lehigh concluded campus interviews of the finalists and an announcement is forthcoming early next week - too late to save their recruiting class ?
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Dec 18, 2022 17:35:49 GMT -5
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 18, 2022 17:48:19 GMT -5
Impressive resume with prior success as a head coach at a lower level
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Post by fillfittonfield on Dec 18, 2022 17:49:56 GMT -5
I’ve been following their search from a distance and have been surprised by how quiet it has been. Not much passionate discussion/debate from alums (aside from the regular posters we all know and respect). No leaks about the selection process and interviewed candidates.
As I mentioned on AGS, I’m not sure this is a reflection of a lack of interest in Lehigh football. Or if Lehigh did a good job keeping things tightly controlled.
Whatever the case, I wish Lehigh well. A strong Lehigh is good for the Patriot League. They are a proud program with lots of past success and history.
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