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Harvard
Nov 27, 2022 16:24:40 GMT -5
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Post by sluka4heisman on Nov 27, 2022 16:24:40 GMT -5
Thread for Wednesday’s game
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Harvard
Nov 27, 2022 17:06:30 GMT -5
Post by rgs318 on Nov 27, 2022 17:06:30 GMT -5
Massey makes Harvard a 7 point favorite (73-66) over HC with a 73% chance for the win.
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Harvard
Nov 27, 2022 17:33:28 GMT -5
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Post by purplehaze on Nov 27, 2022 17:33:28 GMT -5
Fordham beat Harvard 68-60 in the Bronx today - we lost to the Rams by 14
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Harvard
Nov 27, 2022 18:48:48 GMT -5
Post by DiMarz on Nov 27, 2022 18:48:48 GMT -5
HC seems to always give Harvard fits...
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 27, 2022 19:22:22 GMT -5
...and when it does happen, isn't that delightful?!
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Nov 27, 2022 19:22:34 GMT -5
Post by hchoops on Nov 27, 2022 19:22:34 GMT -5
You may want to change that “always”.
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Harvard
Nov 27, 2022 19:35:42 GMT -5
Post by sader1970 on Nov 27, 2022 19:35:42 GMT -5
You know, I thought so too so I went to the record book back to 1999:
2021 L 62-54 (BN) 2020 DNP 2019 L 82-74 (BN) Nelson record vs. Harvard: 0-2
2018 L 73-62 (BC) 2017 W 73-69 (BC) 2016 W 63-52 (BC) 2015 W 50-49 (BC) Carmody record vs. Harvard: 3-1
2014 W 58-57 (MB) 2013 L 82-72 (MB) 2012 L 72-65 (MB) 2011 L 73-64 (MB) 2010 L 72-49 (MB) Brown record vs. Harvard: 1-4
2010 L 87-77 (SK) Kearney record vs. Harvard: 0-1
2008 L 69-59 (RW) 2007 W 80-69 (RW) 2006 W 82-69 (RW) 2005 L 70-55 (RW) 2004 W 60-52 (RW) 2003 W 67-59 (RW) 2002 W 71-66 (RW) 2001 W 65-57 (RW) 2000 W 60-55 (RW) 1999 L 80-39 (RW) Willard record vs. Harvard: 7-3
Note that the purple wins came mostly under Ralph and then under Carmody, the most experienced coaches we had.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Nov 27, 2022 20:26:02 GMT -5
To be fair, the Harvard teams during most of the RW era were not nearly as strong as the ones after Amaker arrived and raised the level of recruiting. In fact, I think that team MB's team beat at TD Garden was top 50ish.
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Post by hceconhist on Nov 27, 2022 20:29:07 GMT -5
To be fair, the Harvard teams during most of the RW era were not nearly as strong as the ones after Amaker arrived and raised the level if recruiting. In fact, I think that team MB's team beat at TD Garden was top 50ish. They were, literally, a top 25 team.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 27, 2022 21:58:55 GMT -5
To be fair, the Harvard teams during most of the RW era were not nearly as strong as the ones after Amaker arrived and raised the level of recruiting. In fact, I think that team MB's team beat at TD Garden was top 50ish. Don’t look back to that thread as I recall it brought us one of the earliest uses of the dreaded “run the table”
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 27, 2022 22:20:59 GMT -5
Will Batchelder had another great 3 point shooting game against C-S. However I’ll resurface the concern I have mentioned a few times in other threads: I worry that he’s going to feast on weak teams/bad defenses but get keyed on by better defenses. Here’s the underpinning for that concern
Against Dean, Stonehill, Colby-Sawyer 105 minutes played 18-35 on three point field goals -exceptional
Against Siena, Creighton, Fordham, UI-Chicago 117 minutes played 2-12 on three point field goals
I’m not so much concerned about the shooting percentage as it’s a small sample with the 2-12, it’s the fact that he got off so few shots.
Of course we know any player should do better against weaker opponents, but the contrast in attempts, in the opinion of this non-expert, is striking. We are going to need Will to launch more than three shots a game from beyond the arc. So here’s my goal for Harvard game to dispel my concerns: 3 for 8 on 3’s for Will.
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Harvard
Nov 27, 2022 23:24:46 GMT -5
Post by hchoops on Nov 27, 2022 23:24:46 GMT -5
Wednesday Home 7 PM
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Harvard
Nov 28, 2022 6:53:43 GMT -5
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 28, 2022 6:53:43 GMT -5
My prior post was in response to DiMarz saying we give Harvard fits. Not exactly accurate. The results would seem to indicate we did sometimes in the past but far from always and maybe not even frequently.
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Nov 28, 2022 7:57:41 GMT -5
Post by timholycross on Nov 28, 2022 7:57:41 GMT -5
When we gave Ohio State a good game (even at the half, then they went to a 1-3-1 zone and beat us by around 20); we followed that up w/a stinkeroo against Harvard; who at the time was not good at all.
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Harvard
Nov 28, 2022 8:22:13 GMT -5
Post by mm67 on Nov 28, 2022 8:22:13 GMT -5
Clark Kellogg, The OSU.
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Post by Ignutz on Nov 28, 2022 11:34:07 GMT -5
To be fair, the Harvard teams during most of the RW era were not nearly as strong as the ones after Amaker arrived and raised the level of recruiting. In fact, I think that team MB's team beat at TD Garden was top 50ish. My recollection is that on game-day in 2014, Harvard was ranked in the Top-25.
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Post by dadominate on Nov 28, 2022 11:52:55 GMT -5
prediction: we may win, we'll probably lose, we will be outcoached (even by amaker).
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Nov 28, 2022 12:46:11 GMT -5
Post by crusader1970 on Nov 28, 2022 12:46:11 GMT -5
prediction: we may win, we'll probably lose, we will be outcoached ( even by amaker). And Amaker is not considered in the coaching fraternity a very good coach.
Reportly when Coach K had to help pick the heir apparent to himself, he never considered Amaker.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Nov 28, 2022 14:47:11 GMT -5
One thing I remember from those Harvard games was that Ant Thompson was a real defensive pest to Siyani Chambers. And Eric Green forced Wesley Saunders to miss a shot to save that Garden game in 2014. Seems like ancient times.
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Harvard
Nov 28, 2022 15:02:06 GMT -5
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 28, 2022 15:02:06 GMT -5
To be fair, the Harvard teams during most of the RW era were not nearly as strong as the ones after Amaker arrived and raised the level of recruiting. In fact, I think that team MB's team beat at TD Garden was top 50ish. My recollection is that on game-day in 2014, Harvard was ranked in the Top-25. They were pre-season #24 or #25. We beat them in season opener and knocked them out of the rankings, which they never climbed back into IIRC. Harvard had made the Sweet 16 year prior I believe, hence the pre-season hype.
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Post by bison137 on Nov 28, 2022 15:33:43 GMT -5
prediction: we may win, we'll probably lose, we will be outcoached ( even by amaker). And Amaker is not considered in the coaching fraternity a very good coach.
Reportly when Coach K had to help pick the heir apparent to himself, he never considered Amaker.
One bit of trivia: in the spring of 1994, when Bucknell was looking for a new basketball head coach, one of the coaches who interviewed for the job was Tommy Amaker . At the beginning of the process, the favorite appeared to be Jeff Bzdelik. But ultimately the job went to Pat Flannery. That worked out pretty well.
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Nov 28, 2022 15:36:52 GMT -5
Post by longsuffering on Nov 28, 2022 15:36:52 GMT -5
When we gave Ohio State a good game (even at the half, then they went to a 1-3-1 zone and beat us by around 20); we followed that up w/a stinkeroo against Harvard; who at the time was not good at all. We played Ohio, too. THE bobcats.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 28, 2022 15:47:01 GMT -5
When we gave Ohio State a good game (even at the half, then they went to a 1-3-1 zone and beat us by around 20); we followed that up w/a stinkeroo against Harvard; who at the time was not good at all. We played Ohio, too. THE bobcats. I went to the game at Ohio U in December 2008 along with my daughter HC 2009. I have a very vivid memory from that game: Andrew Keister, early in his HC career, going for a missed free throw and ripping the ball away from an Ohio U player, It was something to behold, the tenacity he demonstrated, and led me to conclude that he would be a very special player.
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Post by jaredcurry on Nov 28, 2022 19:21:57 GMT -5
And Amaker is not considered in the coaching fraternity a very good coach.
Reportly when Coach K had to help pick the heir apparent to himself, he never considered Amaker.
One bit of trivia: in the spring of 1994, when Bucknell was looking for a new basketball head coach, one of the coaches who interviewed for the job was Tommy Amaker . At the beginning of the process, the favorite appeared to be Jeff Bzdelik. But ultimately the job went to Pat Flannery. That worked out pretty well. Flannery was a great coach, and I hate him passionately.
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Post by efg72 on Nov 28, 2022 19:36:48 GMT -5
Those were great games He could recruit, prepare, and adjust
League was multiple times better than it is today
Need a new coach and a new league asap, I don't buy the academic association nonsense- our academic standing doesn't need the other carpetbaggers
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