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Dec 8, 2022 16:40:29 GMT -5
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Post by HC92 on Dec 8, 2022 16:40:29 GMT -5
Not a good look for the rabbits:
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Dec 8, 2022 16:43:09 GMT -5
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Post by jackedforlife on Dec 8, 2022 16:43:09 GMT -5
Sliding was of no benefit to Delaware's back up qb. Watch the whole SDSU/DE game. The only qb slide that happens is that final play. There was coaching done to remind players that the QBs weren’t sliding. Henderson’s injury was a freak injury on a scramble I believe where he didn’t slide. Is the D aggressive? Yes Are they headhunting? No, they are tackling. The final play was also a “bang, bang” play with very little time for the safety to react. Much like HC players the Jacks players play hard.
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Post by HC92 on Dec 8, 2022 16:46:31 GMT -5
Sliding was of no benefit to Delaware's back up qb. Watch the whole SDSU/DE game. The only qb slide that happens is that final play. There was coaching done to remind players that the QBs weren’t sliding. Henderson’s injury was a freak injury on a scramble I believe where he didn’t slide. Is the D aggressive? Yes Are they headhunting? No, they are tackling. The final play was also a “bang, bang” play with very little time for the safety to react. Much like HC players the Jacks players play hard. Call it what you want. Definitely not a good look in a 42-6 game with a minute left.
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Dec 8, 2022 16:46:32 GMT -5
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Post by jackedforlife on Dec 8, 2022 16:46:32 GMT -5
SDSU recruits SD, MN, IA, NE, IL and WI heavily with some from TX, AZ and MO. FL, KS and OK have been targeted lately too. Between PL and CAA it’s tough to recruit out east unless a coach has prior connections. You left out North Dakota. Unless you’re looping Saskatchewan into ND I’m out leaving them out. The Jacks did have a PWO a few years ago from there but it’s largely unrecruited by SDSU FB. Both BB and wrestling have or are getting athletes from ND though.
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Dec 8, 2022 16:54:02 GMT -5
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Post by jackedforlife on Dec 8, 2022 16:54:02 GMT -5
Watch the whole SDSU/DE game. The only qb slide that happens is that final play. There was coaching done to remind players that the QBs weren’t sliding. Henderson’s injury was a freak injury on a scramble I believe where he didn’t slide. Is the D aggressive? Yes Are they headhunting? No, they are tackling. The final play was also a “bang, bang” play with very little time for the safety to react. Much like HC players the Jacks players play hard. Call it what you want. Definitely not a good look in a 42-6 game with a minute left. Are you wanting players to not play naturally? If so, in a 42-6 game with a minute left then I suggest the losing Offense takes a knee like the winning Offense would do. Again it sucks he was injured…but Large is all of 5’10, 170#. He let up as much as he could. Even the DE staff and players said as much. Former Jackrabbit and DE punter Dinkel relayed no maliciousness was perceived by them. We as fans have the benefit of replay and slow mo and lack of in game knowledge on how things are being coached. I’ll trust the officials, coaches and trainers views on this one. That said I’m hopeful for a hard fought injury free game on Saturday.
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Post by cruskater31 on Dec 8, 2022 16:56:00 GMT -5
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Post by classof83 on Dec 8, 2022 17:15:33 GMT -5
I re-watched the hit. The Delaware QB was sliding and the SD State kid hit him pretty hard with his shoulder. Both teams decided to call the game with a minute left because the game was out of hand and the Delaware QB had to be taken off on a cart after being on the ground for a long time. I am not sure if the kid would have got ejected if the game had continued but there was going to be a penalty.
I could be wrong, but my feeling was that the SD State player was a backup and probably doesn't get a lot of playing time. He was hyped up and trying to impress the coaches - probably had the opposite effect.
I am not sure everyone remembers when HC played SD State in the spring game. There was a SD State player that was ejected for targeting - I think on a running play against Oliver. To be honest if you go back and look at the hit, the SD State player is really lucky that he didn't get seriously hurt because he had his head down when he made the hit- it looked like a hit you see where the kid is going to go off on a cart.
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Dec 8, 2022 17:34:22 GMT -5
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Post by jackedforlife on Dec 8, 2022 17:34:22 GMT -5
Actually Tucker Large is a reserve but plays quite a few snaps at safety and some at LB as well as special teams. The safeties are constantly rotating in and out. It is a nonfactor of him as a reserve not playing until garbage time.
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Dec 8, 2022 17:38:41 GMT -5
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Post by jackedforlife on Dec 8, 2022 17:38:41 GMT -5
Im also trying to do opinion without my blue glasses. Large is already breaking down to tackle at the waist as Conner starts his slide. Tucker then turns his body to not drive through the QB.
Unfortunate sequence going into the hit. Late hit due to the slide but not targeting. No launch, no leading with the crown of the helmet.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 8, 2022 18:51:22 GMT -5
The starting Delaware QB, Henderson, left the game during Delaware's first series with a leg injury on a run. Later reports have the injury as a broken fibula. Henderson is foregoing his last year of eligibility; he announced he is entering the NFL draft.
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Dec 8, 2022 20:05:04 GMT -5
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Post by cruskater31 on Dec 8, 2022 20:05:04 GMT -5
Any ideas why Vegas' lines ballooned from 14.5 to 18? Nothing that I have seen or any recent news/weather would warrant that.
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Dec 8, 2022 20:07:54 GMT -5
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 8, 2022 20:07:54 GMT -5
Likely the line moved due to early betting
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Post by sader81 on Dec 8, 2022 20:24:15 GMT -5
Any ideas why Vegas' lines ballooned from 14.5 to 18? Nothing that I have seen or any recent news/weather would warrant that. Thought the line was generous at 15.5. It’s grand larceny at 18. Didn’t go crazy, but also took HC on the ML as well. Early Christmas present! wont be surprised if HC loses, but will be shocked if it’s a blowout..
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Dec 8, 2022 20:24:23 GMT -5
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 8, 2022 20:24:23 GMT -5
Vegas lines "follow the money" as opposed to be entirely accurate indicators of a projected point spread.
Initial lines are meant to attract an even amount if bets on both sides.
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Post by sader81 on Dec 8, 2022 20:24:49 GMT -5
Any ideas why Vegas' lines ballooned from 14.5 to 18? Nothing that I have seen or any recent news/weather would warrant that. Thought the line was generous at 15.5. It’s grand larceny at 18. Didn’t go crazy, but also took HC on the ML as well. Early Christmas present! wont be surprised if HC loses, but will be shocked if it’s a blowout..
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Post by cruskater31 on Dec 8, 2022 20:34:08 GMT -5
Holy Cross: Fifth-year Crusaders drawing from experience ahead of playoff showdown with South Dakota State Posted By Kevin Stone on December 8, 2022
April 24, 2021 may have been a turning point in the trajectory of the Holy Cross football program.
That afternoon – after playing just three regular season games in the odd spring season – the Crusaders lost 31-3 to No. 1 South Dakota State in the first round of the FCS playoffs. The Jackrabbits went on to lose the national championship game to Sam Houston, while Holy Cross used that day as a jumping off point that has culminated in the success the program has achieved so far in 2022.
Since that game, head coach Bob Chesney and the rest of the program have not only dominated the Patriot League, but Holy Cross has become a true national championship contender. Following that game, Chesney talked about his team needing to “remember the feeling” they had leaving Brookings, South Dakota and they have. It’s fueled the program to reach the level it’s reached.
There are currently 16 fifth-year guys on the roster who remember that initial meeting with the Jackrabbits vividly and they hope that experience will ultimately help when the teams meet again in the NCAA Quarterfinals again this Saturday.
“The uncertainty of it all,” defensive back John Smith said in a phone interview earlier this week when asked what he specifically remembers about the road trip the first time. “It was during Covid. Just leading up to the game, not knowing if you were even going to be able to play. Once we were there, it was just really unfamiliar to all of us. Looking out and just seeing a bunch of flat land. Roads that went just straight for miles. It was a new experience for all of us.”
“Looking back at it, the whole road trip was a little weird because it was during the Covid period,” added fellow fifth-year teammate Spencer Gilliam in a separate phone interview. “It was a different vibe I can’t really put a finger on. It seems so different looking back at it a year and a half ago. We were such a different group back then. When we got there last time, we had to go through their basketball gymnasium and everyone got the Covid swabs shoved up their noses. It was nuts.
“Everything is obviously so different now. I think the biggest thing is we’re not going to have that little twinge of uncertainty because we know what to expect, plus there’s no Covid stuff to worry about. Everything surrounding the game this time is just different.”
With so many fifth-year guys on the team, it feels like this moment – national television, final eight, all eyes on them – has been the moment the program has been building towards since that first loss to the Jackrabbits. SDSU has been at the top of the mountain, or at least very close to it, far longer than Holy Cross has, but times have changed and it feels like this is the spotlight Chesney and the program have been preparing for.
“I think it was,” Gilliam said of that loss being the jumping off point for the program to reach the level it’s now at. “You never forget that atmosphere and making it to play in the playoffs. Obviously, not doing as well as we wanted to, it set the seed inside our program and it gives you a jumping off point to where we ended up now a year and a half later. I definitely don’t forget that experience and it’s a good marking point to look back on and reflect on what we used to be. It’;s night and day now.”
“I’ve watched that game three of four times probably,” added Smith. “Just knowing that we’re so much better than what we were. I think we had something like 29 guys on the injury list going into that game. It was a new challenge and I don’t think we were far off (in the first meeting), there were just a lot of factors that went into that game as well. Personally, I wanted to play them again. If you want to be the best you need to beat the best…we know we’re just so much better than what we were. We’re ready to prove that to the world now.”
Ultimately, seasons like this one and moments like the one Holy Cross will have on Saturday at noon are why the 16 fifth-year guys decided to come back. Unfinished business and a chance to show the world what the program in Worcester is all about.
“This is why we came back,” said Smith. “We’re just trying to build and add on to this legacy that we’ve built since we arrived as freshmen. We feel like we’re carrying the weight of all of our alums, our fans and our families of course. We just want to continue this momentum and keep making them proud.”
“I think with our large, fifth-year foundation we have it helps create a sense of calm and normalcy to project to our other teammates that this is nothing new. We’ve been here before,” added Gilliam. “This isn’t some big event we’ve got to over hype, in the end it’s a football game. It seems so normal to be in this spot now, and that wasn’t the case two years ago. We feel like we belong in this position now. We just can’t let this moment become too big of a moment for us because we’ve earned the right to be here.”
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Post by newfieguy74 on Dec 8, 2022 20:59:04 GMT -5
Glad to see Kevin Shea will be going to SD to cover the game.
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Dec 8, 2022 21:28:38 GMT -5
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Post by cmo on Dec 8, 2022 21:28:38 GMT -5
Any ideas why Vegas' lines ballooned from 14.5 to 18? Nothing that I have seen or any recent news/weather would warrant that. Thought the line was generous at 15.5. It’s grand larceny at 18. Didn’t go crazy, but also took HC on the ML as well. Early Christmas present! wont be surprised if HC loses, but will be shocked if it’s a blowout.. What was money line ?
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Dec 8, 2022 21:52:02 GMT -5
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Dec 8, 2022 21:52:02 GMT -5
Thought the line was generous at 15.5. It’s grand larceny at 18. Didn’t go crazy, but also took HC on the ML as well. Early Christmas present! wont be surprised if HC loses, but will be shocked if it’s a blowout.. What was money line ? HC +600 SDSU -900
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Post by efg72 on Dec 8, 2022 21:56:09 GMT -5
Hunter Dustman thrives as South Dakota State football's triple threat Matt Zimmer Sioux Falls Argus Leader
Hunter Dustman has proved reliable as both the punter and placekicker for South Dakota State this season. There’s a reason most football teams at the professional and college levels don’t have the same person serve as their placekicker and punter: It’s hard.
Kicking the ball through the uprights from 40 yards out and beyond, often in wind and rain, is a difficult physical task, and that’s not even factoring in the mental discipline required to handle the pressure of making those kicks with the game on the line.
Punting is a more athletic endeavor than many realize – the punter must catch the snap from 15 yards away and hold the ball steady enough for a clean drop to his foot while the defense rushes in to block it. Then he’s got to get the kick deep enough to flip field position, but high enough to give his teammates time to get downfield to tackle the returner.
And there’s a third job, too – kickoff specialist. The kickoff is largely taken for granted, especially now that there are expanded fair catch rules, but a kicker who can’t drive the kickoffs consistently deep, or away from dangerous return men, can be a liability.
These are all the things that go into Hunter Dustman’s job as South Dakota State’s placekicker, punter and kickoff specialist. It’s a 3-in-1 job, and the 6-foot-3, 230-pound junior has handled all of them well.
SDSU longsnapper Jaden Mueller (48) works with kickers Hunter Dustman (center) and Jack Green (99) during a practice Tuesday at the S-JAC. As a punter, Dustman has been as good as anyone in the Missouri Valley Football Conference, averaging 42.0 yards per punt, with 12 of his punts dropped inside the 20-yard line and 16 of them fair caught. This has not been surprising. Dustman took over as SDSU’s regular punter last year, when he averaged 41.5 yards per punt to take over the job from incumbent Ben Dinkel (who since transferred to Delaware where he had a fine season of his own this year).
But Dustman’s ability to handle the kicking duties on top of punting was a bit more uncertain. He did both in high school, as many college kickers and punters do. But taking on both roles in college meant finding a way to balance his time to give equal practice and preparation to both. It meant managing the extra workload on his right leg, and handling the mental stress of doing both jobs.
The Jacks’ have had several excellent kickers in their D1 era – Parker Douglass, Justin Syrovatka, Chase Vinatieri and Cole Frahm, the latter two of whom preceded Dustman. That meant expectations would be high, and Dustman has met them. He’s a perfect 45-for-45 on extra points, and 14-of-20 on field goals, including 14-of-17 inside 50 yards, and 4-of-5 from between 40-49 yards. Kickoffs have been good, too, with 24 of his 63 going for touchbacks.
Dustman is quick to credit his special teams unit for his success – long-snapper Jaden Mueller has been automatic and backup quarterback Keaton Heide is as sure-handed a holder as any kicking team could ever hope for – but there’s no doubt Dustman has taken a pretty big ask and made it look, if not easy, then routine.
Hunter Dustman (10) and backup kicker Jack Green (99) practice onside kicks during practice Tuesday at the S-JAC. “Since the NDSU game (in which Dustman hit four field goals) it’s been really good,” he said. “The hogs (offensive line) have done their job, Jaden’s been good, Keaton’s been really good, and it feels like kickoffs have been consistent, too. There’s been some ups and downs but I feel like I’ve done pretty well. There’s always room for improvement, though, and the job’s not done.”
Dustman drilled his first field goal of the year in difficult circumstances – a 44-yarder at Iowa that turned out to be SDSU’s only points in a 7-3 loss. That came after he had shanked his first punt of the game for just 17 yards. Bouncing back to make that kick, outdoors in front of 70,000 fans, proved to teammates they could count on their new kicker.
“We have all the confidence in the world in Dusty,” said safety Cale Reeder. “Being able to do all three jobs shows how much work he’s put in and what type of player he is, but when he made (the field goal at Iowa) it showed us how tough he is mentally.”
When the Jacks made known their intentions to have Dustman handle all the kicking duties, coach John Stiegelmeier didn’t deny it was a lot to put on one player’s shoulders. But it potentially affords them an extra scholarship and an extra player on the travel roster.
And for his part, Dustman never looked at it as an unfair challenge. Apparently it was part of the plan when Jacks coaches saw Dustman booming field goals and punts in high school in East Bethel, Minn.
“This is what I dreamt of, I came to SDSU to do all three,” Dustman said. “Coach Stig told me that when I was recruited. Is it too much to ask? No. Was I unaware of the workload it would require? Yeah, a little bit.”
The workload means practicing the mechanics of each kind of kick. While most punters spend all of their time on the field doing nothing but punting, Dustman has to decide how much time to dedicate to each skill. But it also means managing his workload. Stiegelmeier compared it to a pitcher in baseball working on a pitch count. Dustman said he puts in a heavy workload on Tuesday and tapers off throughout the week.
A soccer player since childhood, Dustman began kicking a football in 7th grade and by 9th grade had switched his focus to the gridiron. He handled kicking and punting duties on the varsity as a junior, but was limited by injuries as a senior, so it’s been awhile since he’s pulled double-duty.
“Mechanically they’re all different, so you’re constantly working to make sure you have all the mechanics down and are staying sharp,” Dustman said. “But the big thing is mentally. Last year as the punter I didn’t have to be ready at all times.
Indeed, as a punter, Dustman could wait until third down to really prepare to enter. Now he could be called into action at a moment’s notice, which he learned in SDSU’s win at North Dakota. Dustman had just gotten off a good punt to pin UND deep in their own territory, and he was still celebrating to himself on the sideline when DyShawn Gales picked off a UND pass and returned it for a touchdown. Dustman had to race to get his helmet on and get on the field to kick the extra point.
“If we’d got a delay of game it would’ve been my fault – 100 percent,” he said.
There have been other learning experiences, like in the penultimate game of the regular season, when Dustman was called on to kick the game-winning field goal in the final seconds. It was from just 34 yards out but Dustman yanked it left. A Northern Iowa player illegally leapt over the line, however, and when given another shot, Dustman calmly knocked it through.
“He’s done (both jobs) well,” Stiegelmeier said. “I believe he has the ability to be an all-conference kicker and punter. He’s accepted the role, he embraces the role and he gets great feedback with special teams coordinator Rob Erickson. I think he’s hitting on all cylinders right now, and we need him to keep doing that.”
That would help SDSU in its goal to get back to Frisco for another shot at the national championship, a task that continues Saturday when the Jacks host Holy Cross in the quarterfinals, but it would also help Dustman hold onto his 3-part role, something he makes clear he intends to do.
“That’s going to be the goal,” Dustman said. “I know they’ll bring in other recruits, but I want to be the guy for the next two years. I don’t want someone else to take it. This is what I came here to do.”
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Post by cruskater31 on Dec 8, 2022 22:08:46 GMT -5
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Post by tj on Dec 9, 2022 0:16:25 GMT -5
I was there for it. Only surprised he didn’t have a violin solo too. It’s what you do before a big game - stay cool
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Dec 9, 2022 8:26:17 GMT -5
Malik Lofton listed on the depth chart.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 9, 2022 8:42:08 GMT -5
From the Prior webcam, three buses up by the Hart entrance. Early flight.
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Post by cruskater31 on Dec 9, 2022 8:52:33 GMT -5
Credit to Prof. Chaos again for the stats compilation. I do want to add a couple of categories to the breakdown.
| Holy Cross | SDSU | Blocked Punts | 6 (1) | 0 (T-L) | Blkd Punts Allow | 1 (50) | 3 (T-106) | Blocked Kicks | 8 (2) | 2 (44) | Blkd Kicks Allow | 1 (19) | 5 (110) | Turnovers Gained | 23 (12) | 22 (18) | Turnovers Lost | 6 (1) | 10 (8) | Turnover Margin | +17 (1) | +12 (5) | Team Sacks | 1.75 (81) | 2.67 (18) | Sacks Allowed | 2.00 (62)
| 1.42 (23) | Net Punts | 37.26 (31) | 35.50 (62) | Punt Defense | 7.0 (52) | 10 (80) | Punt Returns | 6.2 (75) | 8.27 (48) | Kick Returns | 21.7 (29) | 17.7 (94) | Kick Ret. Defense | 19.0 (46) | 21.4 (82) |
I think special teams can really help Holy Cross with field position. We've talked about needing a near-perfect game turnover wise (and getting 2+ turnovers) but I think a blocked kick or punt will go a long way. We have the size on our line to match SDSU, but one thing that has bothered me all season is our sacks given up. Laffy bottled up Sluka with Hamm. We also don't seem to get enough pressure, even against Fordham. I like the pressure we got on Brosmer last week, so perhaps our D is heading in the right direction.
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