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Post by jagg on Dec 22, 2022 18:43:39 GMT -5
I was wondering which of this years, starters will need to be replaced. Thanks.
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Post by hcnj on Dec 22, 2022 20:10:00 GMT -5
I'm very curious about center, who will start and fill in. I don't remember a center from the current freshman class. Janis in the incoming class played some center but don't know how he'll compete as a freshman.
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Post by dharry13 on Dec 22, 2022 20:13:07 GMT -5
I think you’ll see Christo Kelly there
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Dec 22, 2022 20:21:04 GMT -5
Very rarely do you see a true freshman start at center.
Although, think our OC may have done that.
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Post by hcgrad94 on Dec 22, 2022 20:29:01 GMT -5
Kelly started last few games when NO was hurt so all good there. Chances of a freshman starting at any position in a program at this level is pretty small.
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Post by efg72 on Dec 22, 2022 20:32:01 GMT -5
Thinking one of the new LBs will find his way into the lineup somewhere- not sure of his speed in the back, but Spignatto might be able to adapt -on film I haven’t seen many with more explosive contact
but I truly defer to those with a better eye
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hcdad22
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Post by hcdad22 on Dec 22, 2022 20:33:18 GMT -5
I was wondering which of this years, starters will need to be replaced. Thanks. Offense C - Olsofka RB - Oliver WR - Asante Defense DL - Kuz and Reichwein LB - Anderson DB - Smith, Reynolds, Prince, Argys Specials K - Ng
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Post by fillfittonfield on Dec 22, 2022 20:52:21 GMT -5
Very rarely do you see a true freshman start at center. Although, think our OC may have done that. Patrick Quay I think may have have started as a freshman back in ‘97. Could be wrong.
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Post by HC92 on Dec 22, 2022 21:05:11 GMT -5
HC Dad’s list is good for starters. I went through the two-deep for the SDSU game and here are the guys who were on there for offense and defense who may not be coming back. There might be a couple like Morris who are coming back but I don’t think they have declared that publicly. There are also some guys who were previously starters and got injured who will be the presumptive starters heading into spring ball (Dobbs being the most obvious example).
Offense: Backup LG (Daddona) Starting C (Olsofska) Backup C (McCauley) Starting RT (Smith) Starting RB (Oliver) Starting TE (Morris) Starting WR (Asante) Backup WR (Gilliam)
Defense: Starting DE (Kuznetsov) Starting DE (Reichwein) Starting LB (Anderson) Starting SS (Prince) Starting WS (Argys) Starting FS (Reynolds) Starting CB (Smith)
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Post by midwestsader05 on Dec 22, 2022 21:26:59 GMT -5
We lose both Centers Olsofka and Jack McCauley. Christo Kelly will likely be the starter after playing lots snaps as a blocking TE in our heavy formations as well as back-up Guard. Very good player and should fit right in. TE will be interesting based on whether Morris comes back. Jacob Petersen looks to return from a medical redshirt season and should see lots of snaps regardless. RB - I personally don’t think you’ll see all of Olivers snaps/touches go to Fuller but rather distributed to several including Purdy, Forrest and maybe Slade or Freshman Clearveux (PG kid so a year more developed) WR - A healthy Brian Shipman and Dom Thomas would be the favorites to step in for Ayir and Gilliam as the 3 and 4 receivers. If either continues to be injury prone, look for Quentin Gregory, Blake Youngblood and potentially incoming frosh Max Warren to push for PT. DE - BV will have by far the most returning experience. We have rotated 3 D ends last couple seasons so Christian Ross and Osahon Noruwa would be the leading candidates being pushed by Joe Townsend and Colin Reynolds. SS - Curtis Harris Lopez seemed to cement primary back-up status to Prince by the end of the year and likely comes into spring as the 1. FS - Jake Jarmo saw lots of snaps this season in Nickel and Dime packages and also comes into Spring as the 1 FS replacing Reynolds. CB - Terrence Spence likely becomes the starter for J Smith opposite Haskins. Has played a lot in certain defensive schemes last 2 seasons. WS - a complete mystery right now. Either the coaches move Haskins or Spence to the inside (Which Jon Smith would do frequently with Haskins and Spence on the field together) which would mean CBs Matt Duchemin and Malik Scott compete for more playing time or someone completely new wins this spot. If we end up getting a kid from the portal, I think this is where you could see a transfer start in fall 23’.
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Post by inhocsigno on Dec 22, 2022 21:27:13 GMT -5
Very rarely do you see a true freshman start at center. Although, think our OC may have done that. Patrick Quay I think may have have started as a freshman back in ‘97. Could be wrong. Quay started every game for all 4 of his years. However, I think he was a guard freshman year.
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Post by hcnj on Dec 22, 2022 21:28:54 GMT -5
Just scatter shooting a little. Vaganek will see some DE with lots of experience. I think a recovered Ross will play also, the frosh DE from Staten Island seemed to get play at end of season. Very hopeful on Robinson seeing play. I know nothing of how Boyer progressed but always found him interesting having not played his senior year but just liked him. The two frosh could also work in but Holden and Frankie have to be starters now. WR, we'll miss Assante's speed. I think we'll be fine, with current backups plus Warren, Youngblood and Mullaly. DB's worry me a lot, I think we will need at least 2-3 freshmen to see action, not just returning kicks, but contributing. That's a heavy load but I don't see good options.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Dec 22, 2022 21:29:44 GMT -5
Very rarely do you see a true freshman start at center. Although, think our OC may have done that. Pat Quay was a 4 year starting Center from 1997-2000 as well as Chris Smith (2006-2009) although Smitty played a 5th year (med redshirt) so didn’t technically start his freshman year in 05’. Dave Cannon was a 3 year starter 03’-05’. All were All PL at least one season and perhaps multiple.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Dec 22, 2022 21:34:02 GMT -5
Just scatter shooting a little. Vaganek will see some DE with lots of experience. I think a recovered Ross will play also, the frosh DE from Staten Island seemed to get play at end of season. Very hopeful on Robinson seeing play. I know nothing of how Boyer progressed but always found him interesting having not played his senior year but just liked him. The two frosh could also work in but Holden and Frankie have to be starters now. WR, we'll miss Assante's speed. I think we'll be fine, with current backups plus Warren, Youngblood and Mullaly. DB's worry me a lot, I think we will need at least 2-3 freshmen to see action, not just returning kicks, but contributing. That's a heavy load but I don't see good options. NJ, did we cross up or did you post this after my summary. I didn’t mention LB as it would be obvious Dobbs, Bolden and Monte are the heavy favorites. I will say some of us think that Drew Spinogatti has the physical prowess to play snaps at LB as a frosh. Also apparently has a high football IQ which is as if not more important if an underclassman wants to get burn.
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Post by inhocsigno on Dec 22, 2022 21:37:11 GMT -5
Very rarely do you see a true freshman start at center. Although, think our OC may have done that. Pat Quay was a 4 year starting Center from 1997-2000 as well as Chris Smith (2006-2009) although Smitty played a 5th year (med redshirt) so didn’t technically start his freshman year in 05’. Dave Cannon was a 3 year starter 03’-05’. All were All PL at least one season and perhaps multiple. Quay started at guard first two years, then converted to center.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Dec 22, 2022 21:40:29 GMT -5
I saw you mention Guard his frosh year and then thought that was probably right. I just remember he started every game all 4 years. I think 2 time ALL PL. Very good player.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Dec 22, 2022 22:00:53 GMT -5
We lose both Centers Olsofka and Jack McCauley. Christo Kelly will likely be the starter after playing lots snaps as a blocking TE in our heavy formations as well as back-up Guard. Very good player and should fit right in. TE will be interesting based on whether Morris comes back. Jacob Petersen looks to return from a medical redshirt season and should see lots of snaps regardless. RB - I personally don’t think you’ll see all of Olivers snaps/touches go to Fuller but rather distributed to several including Purdy, Forrest and maybe Slade or Freshman Clearveux (PG kid so a year more developed) WR - A healthy Brian Shipman and Dom Thomas would be the favorites to step in for Ayir and Gilliam as the 3 and 4 receivers. If either continues to be injury prone, look for Quentin Gregory, Blake Youngblood and potentially incoming frosh Max Warren to push for PT. DE - BV will have by far the most returning experience. We have rotated 3 D ends last couple seasons so Christian Ross and Osahon Noruwa would be the leading candidates being pushed by Joe Townsend and Colin Reynolds. SS - Curtis Harris Lopez seemed to cement primary back-up status to Prince by the end of the year and likely comes into spring as the 1. FS - Jake Jarmo saw lots of snaps this season in Nickel and Dime packages and also comes into Spring as the 1 FS replacing Reynolds. CB - Terrence Spence likely becomes the starter for J Smith opposite Haskins. Has played a lot in certain defensive schemes last 2 seasons. WS - a complete mystery right now. Either the coaches move Haskins or Spence to the inside (Which Jon Smith would do frequently with Haskins and Spence on the field together) which would mean CBs Matt Duchemin and Malik Scott compete for more playing time or someone completely new wins this spot. If we end up getting a kid from the portal, I think this is where you could see a transfer start in fall 23’. Here’s a stab at 23’ as we sit here today: QB - Sluka RBs - Fuller / Purdy WR 1 - Coker WR 2 - Shorter WR 3 - Shipman / Thomas or Gregory TE - Morris if back for 5th / Petersen LT - Newman LG - Schon C - C Kelly RG - Hanson RT - McMurtrie if recovered / McNair Defense: DE - Vaganek NG - Springer / Williams DE - Ross / Noruwa LB - Bolden LB - Dobbs LB - Monte CB - Haskins SS - Harris Lopez FS - Jarmo WS - wide open CB - Spence P - Pat H K - Norris or Luis P
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Post by hcnj on Dec 22, 2022 22:01:41 GMT -5
Just scatter shooting a little. Vaganek will see some DE with lots of experience. I think a recovered Ross will play also, the frosh DE from Staten Island seemed to get play at end of season. Very hopeful on Robinson seeing play. I know nothing of how Boyer progressed but always found him interesting having not played his senior year but just liked him. The two frosh could also work in but Holden and Frankie have to be starters now. WR, we'll miss Assante's speed. I think we'll be fine, with current backups plus Warren, Youngblood and Mullaly. DB's worry me a lot, I think we will need at least 2-3 freshmen to see action, not just returning kicks, but contributing. That's a heavy load but I don't see good options. NJ, did we cross up or did you post this after my summary. I didn’t mention LB as it would be obvious Dobbs, Bolden and Monte are the heavy favorites. I will say some of us think that Drew Spinogatti has the physical prowess to play some snaps at LB as a frosh. Also apparently has a high football IQ which is as if not more important if an underclassman wants to get burn. Yeah, we passed each other but Dobbs, I'm whacking my head having been not been picturing him for so long since his injury so I blanked him out. Spinogatti has some of the best highlights video I've seen. Thanks.
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Post by crusader1970 on Dec 23, 2022 9:32:31 GMT -5
NJ, did we cross up or did you post this after my summary. I didn’t mention LB as it would be obvious Dobbs, Bolden and Monte are the heavy favorites. I will say some of us think that Drew Spinogatti has the physical prowess to play some snaps at LB as a frosh. Also apparently has a high football IQ which is as if not more important if an underclassman wants to get burn. Yeah, we passed each other but Dobbs, I'm whacking my head having been not been picturing him for so long since his injury so I blanked him out. Spinogatti has some of the best highlights video I've seen. Thanks.I agree. Don't recall ever seeing a HS highlight film with more devastating hits than Spinogatti's.
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Post by dharry13 on Dec 23, 2022 13:09:30 GMT -5
As usual I think midwest is spot on in his analysis. I actually think you'll see a number of Frosh on D on the 2 deep very early. Just my guess in looking at tape. I also believe if HC goes the transfer portal - and I fully expect them to do so for the DBs - that you will see 1 or 2 in starting roles. I think you could see Spinogatti, Robinson, Dansdill, Jones, Comestro, and future signees on the 2 deep depth chart in the fall of 2023.
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Post by hcnj on Dec 23, 2022 18:17:07 GMT -5
I'm not saying two-deep but Ross is effectively a frosh and I think Sterling Smith will see the field. Does anyone know if Dansdill could be used as an edge type DE?
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Post by efg72 on Dec 23, 2022 18:22:11 GMT -5
Depends on his winter and summer, but according to some on the board who know more about him I wouldn’t be surprised
What I think is so impressive about the current recruited class is the quickness and versatility of these young men
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Post by nhteamer on Dec 23, 2022 22:46:30 GMT -5
Very rarely do you see a true freshman start at center. Although, think our OC may have done that. I think in the 8 years from ‘72 to ‘80 there were only two centers, Klauke and McGovern
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Post by hiltonheadcrusader on Dec 24, 2022 7:49:11 GMT -5
Very rarely do you see a true freshman start at center. Although, think our OC may have done that. I think in the 8 years from ‘72 to ‘80 there were only two centers, Klauke and McGovern I can confirm that Jack “Whitey” McGovern (RIP)played every down at center in his four years in purple. Jack was followed in Worcester by his brothers and RoH members, Billy and Rob. DK re Klauke.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 24, 2022 7:58:10 GMT -5
Very rarely do you see a true freshman start at center. Although, think our OC may have done that. OC Chris Smith '10 started every game at center in 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009. However, he was a true frosh in 2005, receiving a medical redshirt. RT Chris Poole and QB Dominic Randolph were in the same incoming class and played in 2009 as well with medical redshirts.
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